TFW lower back hurts really bad and i don't know what to do

>TFW lower back hurts really bad and i don't know what to do
>TFW has been hurting severely for the last 2 months and I haven't gone to the gym as a result
>TFW live in canada and don't know what to do

i've already lost all my gains...

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>live in canada and don't know what to do
>canada
Make a completely free appointment to see the doctor? Is this bait?

I don't even have a GP to give me a referral(it's needed)

I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but in Australia, you just turn up at a GP's office of your choosing, fill in a form, and the doctor sees you and gives you a referral to a specialist if appropriate. Canada has universal healthcare so I'm sure its not that much different

They've never really helped me when i had problems so i stopped going to the doctor at all

There are many kinds of injuries it could be, disk hernia/slippage, disk degeneration, a break in your spine (not kidding), damage to connective tissue, torn erector muscle, et cetera.

You need to get medical diagnosis. You don't want to start on doing rehab for a disc at home when you have a broken bone..

>There are many kinds of injuries it could be, disk hernia/slippage, disk degeneration, a break in your spine (not kidding), damage to connective tissue, torn erector muscle, et cetera.

what doctor do i need to see???

it's really really been bothering me for a long time, hurts so bad and for a long time

All you have to do is go to the doctor or go to the hospital. They'll handle everything from there and probably x ray you the same day.

Just tell them your back fucking hurts. I went to the hospital for a pinched nerved in neck and ended up going to a (absolutely terrible) neurologist down the line.

Go to a walk in clinic or find a GP, either one will send you to a specialist and probably make you get X-rays at a minimum, no idea how it is in canada but I got mris a few year ago when I had back problems.

Request a referral to a physiotherapist from your GP. If your normal GP refuses to help you, go to another one

>f your normal GP refuses to help you, go to another one

I had a GP but they never helped me and only always accepted me like 2+ hours afther my appointment time so i stopped going to them and now I don't have one

I thought i'd get one so i looked good reviewed ones online and when I call their office they're always full. Only literal shit ones with like 1 star reviews saying how they're borderline criminally negligent doctors are actively accepting patients. I live in ontario so there's not that manhy doctors

In canada?

isn't that more for serious emergencies?

>going to a (absolutely terrible) neurologist down the line.
Yikes

Okay ill try this week

This has been going on so long I'm just going to go to as many walk in clinics as it takes this wee kto get this solved.

Go to a chiropractor

You know you can go to a walk-in clinic and they'll refer you to someone?

Also avoiding the gym completely is probably going to be worse, you want to be rehabing it not just completely avoiding everything with it.

>You know you can go to a walk-in clinic and they'll refer you to someone?

Really?

didnt know.

>Also avoiding the gym completely is probably going to be worse, you want to be rehabing it not just completely avoiding everything with it.

Dude it's been fucked...

Like my lower back would hurt when trying to do seated cable rows with bretty light weight. Also kind of hurt when doing cardio

im just really scared of making it worse, i already probably did by not resting it when it started

I suffered 10 fucking months of this Shri

Bro linked me this
ahs.uwaterloo.ca/~mcgill/fitnessleadersguide.pdf

Did it every day for 1 month (I'd recommend you do it for longer after the pain goes away though, just to be sure)
Been pain free since.

>ahs.uwaterloo.ca/~mcgill/fitnessleadersguide.pdf

thanks bro.

I had this saved on my phone but lost it and for the life of me couldn't remember what it was called through googling.

But regardless I REALLY gotta get this shit checked. I'm such an idiot for letting it go on for so long. leaving your health till it gets too bad to continue living especially in a socialized healthcare country is so retarded... ffs

If it makes you feel any better, I couldn't even bend over at all at one point, couldn't out my socks on. I couldn't lift anything, all I was doing was bench with extreme discomfort. I was bed ridden. I left it for 10 fucking months before doing anything.

Did that McGill stuff and honestly I've had no pain what so ever since, doing absolutely anything.

You'll be okay. I promise.

I'll do it senpai, but pretty fuckin scared otherwise. Gonna hit up every GP in a 1000 km radius from me until they hook me up with multiple referrals

Got any particular tips for those exercises in the pdf? I did some of them before but a lot just seemed super easy and kinda pointless but that was before this injury

seated cable rows aren't back rehab, look up Dr. Stuart Mcgill, he's got a lot of good information and his book is probably the best info you'll get anywhere.

Best of luck, please do them alongside any physiotherapy you get.

Literally just do the cat camel, curl-up, side bridge and birddog, nothing else. I made the mistake of doing planks, which just fatigued my core and made it harder to do everyday.

Just do it every day, at first you won't notice too much, perhaps temporary relief, then one day it will all start getting better at a rapid rate.

Once you can lift again, train the shit out of your spinal electors and lower back. I do back extensions every session, I do snatch grip deadlifts every week and I deadlift normally every week. I hammer my spinal electors and lower back, which helps so damn much.

If you can do reverse hypers pain free, I'd strongly recommend you do them alongside the mcgill stuff.

Can you do heavy squat/deadlift?

>seated cable rows aren't back rehab

yeah ik im just saying my shit hurt so bad even light ass cable rows were hurting it.

Plus i feel shit kinda bulging out above my ass cheeks with my hands, not sure if it's suppose to be that way but feels fked.

thanks man i'll do it, appreciate it.

this back shit has been going on so long, at some point my back would just hurt like fuck deadlifting even just 225lbs, and it wasn't my form cus I've got that formchecked both on Veeky Forums and in person by powerlifting bros.

legit worried man, the more i think about it the more i think it's a slipped disc or some sort of serious issue

Squatt.

Btw my lower back hurts doing the cat camel on the "cat" part, did you have the same thing?

Yep, I can. Atg high bar squats OCCASIONALY give me slight discomfort, but low bar ATG doesn't.
Something to consider.

You'll be okay. Back when I was injured I couldn't pick up 60kg at all. At fucking all.

Yep. It's not a stretch though, you're just warming up and getting the spine mobile. Just so the movement, don't force anything, you're not trying to increase your range of motion.

sounds like you've hurt your back OP

Yeah I know but I really get a lot of discomfort doing the cat component of it

I did too. Just don't force anything, eventually it will get better.

thank you user i hope so

I'll spend this week trying to get a referral/mri/whatever done additionally though. Are you in Canada too?

UK. I'll be honest, I never went to a doctor lol.
I was 16 going on 17 at the time and was afraid to tell my parents.

Thank god I asked around for help though, otherwise I might have screwed myself even frater.

>I was 16 going on 17 at the time and was afraid to tell my parents.

what the heck senpai, why would you be scared...

I didn't want to stop lifting, I knew they would be furious and make me stop... Teenagers are dumb and I was no exception.

Like I said, luckily I managed to sort it myself. McGill is literally a life saver.

I guess that makes sense.

Thanks man hope I get this shit sorted. Kinda feel like an idiot cus I ignored it and helped a friend move into his new house and strained it at work additionally too when (I presume) it was healing on its own

Fkkk

I promise you'll be ok. Do it every day for a month, only had to be done once a day. You can do it twice a day if you wish, which is what I did for the first week or two, but once is enough.

Just be consistent and try not to worry. Come back in 1-2 months and if I see your thread I'll come help you as best as I can.

Okay thanks dude

The biggest thing is I can physically feel some shit bulging out with my hand. Is that what a slipped disc is like?

no clue, still get an MRI to be sure.

Will, thanks man.

Literally doing those exercises from the PDF right now. But going to sleep so good night and thanks

Not OP but been having an uncomfortable back pain, it started 6 months ago I think when I was doing squat 4x5 90 kg, I squeeze my torso hard and when I squatted all the way down I felt a "pop" in my back but no pain or something similar. The next week I was feeling a little lower back pain when stretching my lower back toes to toes but I quit training when I started to have a lower back pain/discomfort while squatting. It went away in less than 15 days and after 3-4 months of training I had again an episode of lower back pain while overtraining doing heavy squats/deadlift. I quited the training during 2 months, and half a month ago I went back to training and after 1 week I started to feel again a debilitating lower back pain. I can do deadlift and front squats pain free but in bent over row I feel a lower back pain maybe because it's still too much weight for me. When I did leg raise I felt a little discomfort/pain in my lower back, and it's in the spinal zone. I tried running fast and no pain. I can move my hips like Shakira but if I do the "fucking doggystyle" motion letting my lower back round a lot and fast I can feel a little discomfort sometimes. Would a chiropractor help to acomodate my dorsal spine?
If I have a pinched nerve will my back recover fully?

>TFW feel bad for you but can't really offer any advice

shit, i dunno whats wrong with my back but if it's permanent im gonna commit sudoku

You can probably overcome it

Very rare is there an issue that stops all sport entirely. There's always a surgery or general strengthening that fixes it. And if not now, at least the future is good since we'll have amazing medical advances in 29-30 years from now. No need for sudoku.

ALL YOU BOYS NEED TO PRESENT TO GP AND RECEIVE REFERRAL TO PHYSIO, FOLLOW UP WITH IMAGING, FURTHER REFERRALS IF INDICATED (PT and GP liase on this).

DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH INTERNET ADVICE, GET PROPER IN-REAL-LIFE ADVICE. TAKE ACTION. CONTINUE TO PRESENT AND COMPLAIN UNTIL YOU HAVE SATISFACTORY CARE.

From Australian physio and back pain sufferer.

see above post. fuck off to proper medical care now. Yes you have injured your back, it is extremely likely you will be fine.from physio

Do you sit a lot? I bet your hip flexors and quads are super tight. Google trigger point hip flexors. Buy a theracane or use a baseball or something hard and small to get deep into them. Also foam roll your quads. After you have the trigger points out then stretch.

don canadaians have free healthcare? go the mri'd you clown

Will I be just "fine" or will I fully recovery my back?

I had lower back pain when I rounded my back. Started foam rolling and doing hyperextensions, making sure to round the back to work the spinal erectors, and now the pain is pretty much gone.

Rounding the back on back extensions?

I thought people said not to do that?

>hurt my wrist after doing one rep of bench press with shitty grip
>hurt it 11 days ago
>hasn't gotten better at all since
>range of motion and usefulness of left hand has been severely limited
FUCK this, I just want to use my left hand again
Thankfully though, I can do all of the compound lifts without it hurting too bad.