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Oh and by the way check your heterosexuality at the door, it's the first thing you'll lose when you start pinning.

you know what rhymes with tren then right ? ill give you a hint but its not the muscle

Glans? Lol

what do you guys think of this cycle?
week 1-12 test e at 500mg, week 1-12 boldenone at 500 mg and dbol for the first 6 weeks?

only the best faping material on this entire site bby

I think you're an idiot :)

hi im a girl
if i do SS and use like 2.5 mg/day of anavar what would happen?

why?

you become ultra penis ron Jeremy style types of huge

incase peak forgets it when he wakes up from his coke and whores

no seriously
Would it be a waste?

ask bimbo hes var'ed his Ex before

Iirc bimbo was very happy with how his ex turned out (body wise)
Not sure about the dose or starting point tho

>Would it be a waste?
not at all, women are incredibly responsive to aas

i wouldnt' use much more unless you want to sacrifice some femininity, or your var is underdosed

Okay. I'm a noob doing SS though, that's why I ask.

youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

That's 5mg ED? Guys usually run, around 50mg ED?

yeah, around there

most dudes stay away from var because it's too expensive at the doses you'll need, but it's still nice if you have the cash

women have it pretty cozy tb h, don't even need to pin

reposting from the last thread
Sorry, you're right.
I'm planning to run 500 mg/wk test e for 12 weeks and 4 weeks 30-40 mg/ed dbol (haven't decided yet) as a kickstart.
My stats are 6'0 182 15% 26 years old.
I'm thinking on cutting some more bf before starting my first cycle though.

>Quality post. 10/10 saved
aww stop it, kek. for real though some of it is anecdotal and placebo so usual grain of salt applies. but thanks, weaponized autism does pay off for trial and error stuff

>Interesting how gum chewing plays into all - makes total sense
yup, minor factor but all other stuff aside a prominent masseter gives a bit of a structured look to patchy beards. facial muscle exercises make you look like a mongoloid on molly while doing them but are good for bloodflow

>>androgenic rating
>nature.com/pr/journal/v18/n11/pdf/pr19842389a.pdf
>Check out the study on the top left. DHT increasing collagen in foreskin fibroblasts.
lel read it and got me thinking, but although i may be a dickhead sometimes, i have no actual foreskin fibroblasts on my cheeks topkek

>But I am aware of the studies showing what you are talking about, where rats with no androgen receptors etc.
yeah. most of it is anecdotal for me, but i found that while dht derivatives (i.e. no 5ar involved) do not make me shed hair (mossad rambled about this a few threads back) they somewhat inhibit beard gainz in the long run for me. am too dumb to come up with actual scientific approach but fwiw paying attention to that helped me.

Hey /fraud/ I've come off of a 3 year blast and cruise mission, where I destroyed grams of tren test masteron, tons of oral shit, dnp, hgh and everything. I just gone off cold on Christmas. no pct, even tho I got tons of pct shit on hand
Wasnt very problematic, the first month was ok, my libido was even higher. Now I lost nearly all interest in sexual activties if there is no stimulation. If I look at prons or put my benor in the bagina of my gf it works flawless,
I even cum a lot more than I did on cycle, my balls got bigger too, not a lot but they did.
What the fuck is wrong with me, that sex doesnt even cross my mind anymore but yet my benor works and shoots cum without problems? Will it just take time?
I planned to go on cycle again in 9 days, pls help

>although i may be a dickhead sometimes, i have no actual foreskin fibroblasts on my cheeks
Fucking hell, my poor sides.

This is obviously a mental thing, if your benor works than it has nothing to do with your hormones or your libido, but just the way you feel like at the moment.

>comes off from a 3 year blast
>wants to do a cycle again 2 months later

you could have just stayed on

>tfw finally blast again (maybe including hgh) and bulking, after ages of cutting on cruise

We /ravenous/ now. w2c whole grilled cows for cheap

lel come visit me, I live in walking distance of a cattle farm and their guard dogs are old friends of mine. bring your own wire cutter and bbq sauce.

pinning e7d 50mg deca or eq is a nice cycle too. 1vial lasts 40weeks haha
although for a beginner i would reccon 25mg

Nice, fun weekend activity along with cost effective protein heh. Where you at? Walking distance from farm sounds rural as heck.

yeah rural gypsy yurop, so this might not be worth the effort lol. hmu if you ever need 15kgs or more of beef jerky though, I know a guy.

Bold Cyp? or EQ?

DHB is much better from what I can tell.

I come off with no pct and it happens to me too, then picks up again a few weeks after that. I strangely have very little issue not using pct.

EQ and yeah i did some research about it and it seems better indeed but i couldn't get my hands on it

search on the typical steroid source talk place not here. Maybe some vendors, theres a raw supplier too which is where Ill be getting mine from (they do some oils too, so maybe they have dhb prepared in a vial). They also got bold cyp.

SHEIKO & DIETMAR PROGRAMS

Sheiko Programs:

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>Volume program:
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>Volume program: (by Haugen)
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That's a negligible amount. You'd be better off dieting. 20mg-60mg daily for 10 weeks will get you some amazing and dramatic change. And since you're a woman, no need to run pct. Fucking easy

>woman
>20mg-60mg daily for 10 weeks
enjoy pickle clit and 24/7 gunslinger 5 o clock shadow

>recommending 60mg of anavar to a woman
Jfc you're retarded. Might as well tell her to hop on tren too.

Ayyy

So I got some sore nips, possibly a lil pea growth, and some insomnia last night. Other than that, no high estro symptoms.

Took Asin 12.5 yesterday and today I cant decide which would be more effective:
>Start dosin Asin ED
>Take Nolva ED for a few days and do Asin EoD

Just trying to avoid crashing my e2. And Im reading lots of mixed reviews on taking Nolva for gyno on cycle, with some saying it merely hides symptoms without removing gyno.

erections and libido totally fine btw, and bloat seemingly disappeared after Asin yesterday

I asked in another thread but no one cared. What would happen if I ran a cycle of ostarine for let's say a month and maybe a 300-500 calorie deficit? Would I need any kind of pct as well? I'm never doing needles but I'm not opposed to orals for a nice recomparoony

I havent used Ostarine since the pro-hormone ban.

But when taking the legit stuff I had similar, if less pronounced, results as Epistane.

Increased pump, minor strength gains, vascularity, weight loss, no need for PCT

Take lots of liver support especially if you drink

>wake up
>stretch
>calf cramp
>go piss and come back to bed
>lie down
>hamstring, calf, lower left back, upper left back cramp
>wtf
>roll over
>lower right back cramp

What the fuck is this shit i usually never get cramps on anything

Probly that whole vial of sub q HGH m8

Up the potassium and taurine

I thought the half life was like 4-6 hours subq, it's been around 40 hours since my injection, wtf.

Also dat carpal tunnel... lol. Fml

u gon die

Facial exercises aren't a good idea, stretching facial skin in general is retarded.

Been off tren e like 3 weeks now. Woke up the last few nights with my bed sheets soaked in sweat.

I'm thinking low e2? All I have is letro for AI so I've been struggling dialing it in. Was on no AI for a while and started getting acne, now poppin letro and getting night sweats. Fuck estrogen and letro I guess I'll go back to asin.

If youre off Tren I feel like low e2 is the only explanation left.

Grab some Asin and avoid that awful Letro e2 rebound

>Been off tren e like 3 weeks now.
not gonna make it

>two weeks ago, ludicrously stressed about not having a job, searching for months, etc.
>Gains and energy a struggle

Today
>Test has kicked in, var starts tomorrow
>High energy, great libido, diamond erections
>Met with potential new boss and hes desperately trying to get me to head up a new division as they acquire a new company
>Interview with big corp on the 28th hes trying to pull me away from
>60 degrees this week in Cleveland in February

When it rains it pours...pouring gainzzz that is

>tfw sweet relief

>that shitstorm on the source board about that one source and his braindead "rep"

holy. fucking. shit.

fake test, fake clen, fake sdrol, fake viagra, fake fucking everything wtf?

Guys I'm alive, the pain is way down, I almost did squats yesterday, I think I'm gonna cycle on

test p on first cycle was not a good idea missed almost a week in the gym but feeling good for next week

remember when you wanted to do test suspension

Glad I never used him. However something similar happened about a month ago where it was determined the source had bad raws and was seemingly forgiven. Pretty sure his recent reviews are positive.

My source has gotten great Test reviews over the past month.

Bit worried about the Asin strength tho

not those new age memes where you move your face nine ways from sunday with your fingers for half an hour, those are indeed gay and counterproductive, just practicing mimics and chewing motions and all kinds of funny faces for 2x45s two times a day, like stroke patients do. should have clarified probably.

AYY LMFAO

my hgh source is out of black tops until march, LOL. good thing i ordered when i did. get fucked cuckolds

i member

>ugl ai

Lol glad I was talked out of it, that would have been hell

>needing ai

Im grabbing liquid stuff in a week. Didnt realize at first what a difference there was.
I aromatize like a baby back bitch

I want to compete in a classic physique competition. What do you guys think of this for prep?

Test, Mast, Primo, Anavar

Seem like a decent stack? I respond pretty well even to shit like deca and dbol as long as my diet is in check. Looking to get lean and full af. Dosage recommendations?

>implying pharma ai is liquid

man this shit never fucking ends

canada is such a fucking meme for gear. guess it's time to switch to someone even more fucking expensive (woo 60 bucks a vial of test e)

>needing benadryl, prilacrapine, and hgh just to talk to not play wow

>"not scary big"

yeah im really quaking in my boots when i see you roiding faggots

lolwut

Wut

Are you this retarded on purpose or is this just your autism. Can't tell

Why can't I find viagra anywhere? I just wanna tear a third hole in my girlfriend one night

Trying to put on mass or get lean?

This will be me when i go off. Not looking forward to that. I doubt i'll spend much time being natty, fuck that. you look familiar too, either here or different board.
fuck you famalama. went to order last night and was insta bummed. not going w the other ones either.
i love drama fill me in

Fucking everyone and their mum sells viagra or cialis.

Just want to stay full while getting lean. But I don't mind growing in to the show. Last time I tried competing I did it naturally and hated how flat I was

I've tried looking around leddit but I guess I'm new to the source thing

Then probably keep test medium to low (300-500mg) and run mast and primo higher (~700mg). Var isn't bad but imo there are better choices for contest prep orals unless you have a lot of it and wanna run large doses.

Thanks man. I planned to run mast pretty high but primo is damn expensive so we'll see what I can do. The var I already had on hand but I know a bunch of people that say it's not worth it and would rather run winny. It's just a convenience thing for me now. Appreciate it!

this

also as meh as winny commonly is, as mere contest prep finisher it does wonders. not to mention most people buy winny anyway when trying to cop var but that is a topic for another day lel

Viagra is insanely easy to find on the internets cuz.
Most clen or roid sites sell it.
I take viagra very commonly now and literally destroy my 90lb small gril

that's all I want to do, new grille isn't on birth control so we have to use a condom and it kills my boner. She's only 95 lbs and she's a little freak so it's fucking demoralizing when were trying to fuck and I can't get it up. How do I figure out what sites are legit and just wont steal my cc info or send me a fake product?

Was posting mobile, anywho -
I've ordered from indian sites that call me a lot now, I wouldn't do that.
Do you buy roids? Most sites have it, basically any reputable site will have it, and not faked.
literally any roid site. there are plenty sites that review roids, id start there if you're noob

you guys have any good time saving tips?
I'm really hitting a wall for time recently, avoiding reducing workout time, but its Sunday and I'm writing multiple papers right now that I should have been able to do during the week

consider lower test too, since var won't dry you out the same
all based on your water retention
its common to drop test right around contest, depends on how primo fills you out

but I don;t have any firsthand experience competing

I have so much fucking winny
damn chinaman

even legit sites will steal your cc info sometimes
thanks adc

doing research it seems like a lot of people buy from indian sites. I don't buy roids or anything, I'm pretty noob when it comes to this stuff. Just interested in better boners so I don't really know any roid sites.

just a tip to you newbies.

pin your shit slow. fuck. i injected my test e + tren a too fast and fuck the cough literally killed me.

not to mention the enormous ASS pip i'm experiencing right now.

well I wouldn't use any site that uses CC, even though i have and havent had problems ever.
Are you familiar with bitcoin?
tomcruiz ( a t) safe-mail ( dot ) net
I can helps

>even legit sites will steal your cc info sometimes

Lol The non legit guys are pretty straight up, I tried ordering halo from a non legit site and they returned my money and didn't use my stolen cc number or anything.

Heating helps with test p, I pinned my virgin left leg yesterday and it's not too bad

>pin your shit slow

Use 25g and you won't have an issue with that m8

Thanks, I'll send an email

Thanks grandpa, interesting to learn about what motivates you. I was sort of almost expecting a /pol/-inspired motivation similar to what CP once posted about being of some use in upcoming war or Trump crusades.

I might look into capping. I really need to move out of this house and get my own place so I have a dedicated lab room but I'm too attached to the puppies here :/

>they somewhat inhibit beard gainz in the long run for me
Good to know! I was sort of considering blasting masT after hearing mossad's experience with it not causing hair loss to try and get beard gains (the normie model in the beard forums is DHT in scalp = loss and DHT in face = beard) but I think the actual mechanisms at play are more complicated. Oil stack is so /comfy/ anyways.

I used 25g and got 1.5cc in in less than 20 seconds.

i pushed way too hard.

gotchu bro

>I have so much fucking winny
>damn chinaman
kek same here, now the question is if to just man up and munch it by the fistful or sling it as var to some dumb cunt i dont like much anyway

19, Half a year of lifting and now had half a year hiatus.
180cm, 65kg

I know nothing of roids. Can some be used to kickstart, or am I Retarded?

its easy enough to sell even bunk product to retards

the problem is that NO ONE wants winny
do not tell people its winny if you want to move it

well depends on dosage, anything from 80-150mg does nothing, up to 300 seems to favor it slightly for whatever fucked reason i cannot scientifically comprehend, anything beyond that does not cause shedding but inhibits further growth. i find little actual evidence for this so maybe face dht does favor beard gains and i am just a freak outlier who the fuck knows lol

still do the rest of my regimen (change out pso for gso or mct if you are unsure about dht faggotry), fun to do and effective.

i refuse to sling bunk because of some fake honor code i have, but telling some curlbro my winny is var is no crime. they have never had real var anyway, given the situation around here they never will. probably would even bust my ass for lying if i ever slung the real deal because of different effects hue

You're young and new to lifting. Just lift and eat bro don't worry about roids right now.

*CP chuckling in the distance*

What happened? I'm not seeing the post.

>probably would even bust my ass for lying if i ever slung the real deal because of different effects hue
Reminds me of how I got accused of giving a friend bunk coke cause it was not as sweet and sticky as the stuff he usually got. Turns out his guy cut with powdered sugar. My sides reached terminal exit velocity instantly.