Why are the Communist dictators of the Soviet Union so beloved and respected by the people, despite a constant barrage of anti-Communist propaganda? In Russia, for example, Stalin has a higher approval rating than Putin:
I've heard the argument that it's a form of "Stockholm syndrome". But why does nobody experience "Stockholm syndrome" in relation to right-wing dictators?
Only 9% of Chileans have a positive view of Pinochet (in contrast to 80-90% of Russians who have a positive view of Stalin).
In China's case, Mao ending 100 years of strife was a super big deal that they were willing to overlook the shitty things his leadership did.
Joshua Jones
It's because under them Russia had an empire, while after them it became a debased, balkanized shithole full of krokodil and child prostitutes. Russians and Georgians are also the only ex-ostblok people who view Stalin in a positive light.
Jacob Watson
>Why are the Communist dictators of the Soviet Union so beloved and respected by the people Decades of brainwashing + the "we wuz empire and sheeeeeit" mindset
>despite a constant barrage of anti-Communist propaganda lol no Mainstream Russian media and the school system are very far from "anti-Communist propaganda", if anything they glorify muh fight against fascism and all that crap.
Dylan Carter
>Decades of brainwashing + the "we wuz empire and sheeeeeit" mindset So how come the people in Chile aren't affected by the same "decades of brainwashing" they received under Pinochet?
>Mainstream Russian media and the school system are very far from "anti-Communist propaganda", if anything they glorify muh fight against fascism and all that crap. They say the USSR won the war not thanks to, but despite Stalin. On TV they show "documentaries" of Stalin's "atrocities" constantly. Frauds from CIA-funded organizations like "Memorial" appear on Russian TV as respectable "scholars" and "authorities" on the "brutal Stalinist terror".
Christopher Russell
Have you ever seen a Victory Day parade in Moscow? Nothing but Stalin/Lenin portraits and USSR flags, all sponsored by the state.
Matthew Mitchell
Irrelevant whether they show their portraits or not, when the media pushes the narrative that Lenin and Stalin were godless traitors to Batko Nicholas II's Holy Russia.
Mason King
Chile wasn't inebriated by the idea of an ''Empire'' and being part of something ''bigger and respectable''. It's mostly powertripping and heavy brainwashing.
Levi Peterson
Because they aren't presented as Communists, they're presented as Russian nationalists who made sacrifices for the nation, it's the most basic of state propaganda
Chase Green
Such views are common even in the former Warsaw Pact states, who saw their sovereignty eroded by the Kruschevite and Brezhnevite revisionist cliques. Not only were they not part of an "empire", they were the victims of it (see Kruschev's repression of the Hungarian rebellion). Yet vast majorities (over 70%) prefer the Communist "regime".
Alexander Gray
Well he was ultra-paternalistic towards other comrades.
Adrian Jones
Better off does not necessarily mean they think it was good, just less shit, it's also a very efficient way to bitch at the government and get noticed in the press
Parker Moore
Russians like both Nicholas and Stalin.
Alexander Nelson
Stalin was a victor. Most of people who praise him didn't experience red terror, famines, gulags or ww2 horrors but instead can reap the reputation of their people surviving a catastrophe that would potentially end in their eradication, winning space race and becoming nuclear superpower. Similar to how we worship some great monarchs or famous battles of our countries but we probably wouldn't enjoy being a peasant or soldier serving under them. At least that's how i see it.
Connor Butler
>Only 9% of Chileans have a positive view of Pinochet As a chilean I know that's false
Aiden Bell
This. Current Russian gov harks back to both the USSR and Russian Empire. They see the USSR as a continuation of Russian dominance.
Cameron Nguyen
Meanwhile the communist party in Hungary only has 10% of the vote.
Brayden Lee
all of chile loves pinochet user, except the flaites in the shanty towns but who cares
he was a hero saved us from communism
Levi Wright
He's a stupid gypsy who emigrated to Sweden and now shitposts on /int/ that Eastern Europeans actually want communism back and uses some meme American agencies as a source for that claim.
Andrew Collins
Only Russians love him. All the former SSRs besides Belarus hates him
Colton James
>Georgians hate the most famous and respected Georgian of all time
Joshua Sanders
Yes, to them he's the Georgian equivalent of an Uncle Tom
Julian Ortiz
>most famous and respected Georgian of all time That's Jimmy Carter.
Aaron Nguyen
his opinion took a massive dip after 2008
Isaiah Sanchez
Old pieces of shit looking at their youth with nostalgia goggles, mostly
Kevin King
Generations of brainwashing to love totalitarians.
Noah Parker
You would think Georgians would love the man who probably killed more Russians than any other in history.
Benjamin Mitchell
A leader who can successfully carry his people through troubled times will be looked upon favorably in the future regardless of their faults. Consider Abraham Lincoln in America or Churchill in the UK. Stalin won WW2 and saved Russia from annihilation, that's enough to overlook the gulags and oppression for many people.
Chase Garcia
This is true
Christian Cruz
What are you talking about? there's a Stalin Statue in his home town
Benjamin Torres
>it's old people nostalgia >it's fedora kids who didn't experienced it When will you retards finally decide which one?
Stalin is used as a stand in for socialism-in-general, as well as his rule being (if you just look at plain numbers but ignore certain plain numbers like death tolls) fairly prosperous for Russia.
Anthony Ramirez
>Why are the Communist dictators of the Soviet Union so beloved and respected by the people He saved millions.
Zachary Nguyen
I've asked similar things to Romanians. The leaders (Ceausescu in particular) weren't particularly well liked, but in some ways the system in place worked. Everyone had an apartment and education, people got jobs right after graduating, and unemployment was incredibly low.
Ethan Harris
This might be because Hungary had some of the best living standards in the Eastern Bloc.
