My brother's 12 (13 tomorrow) and I'm 18, my brother whenever in the presence of my girlfriend always does stupid shit to try to impress her. So he challenged me to a play fight and he catches me in the hold seen in the picture. My girlfriend took the picture as she was finding the whole thing hilarious. I tapped out and was lowkey pissed about it for the rest of the day.
After my girlfriend had left, my brother started talking shit and I ended up punching him once or twice. So later on, I was watching tv when my brother sneak attacks me and places me in a bodyscissor (legs around waist) while twisting both of my arms. I'm stuck for what must have been about 10 minutes (he didn't respond to tap outs) and start throwing up. My brother tells me to say that "I lick donkey balls" out loud otherwise he would continue squeezing and I did.
All of this has made me lose my confidence completely, I was never super strong but was always athletic which I thought was enough. Now I'm getting self-conscious about being weak and it's starting to get to me. Even my girlfriend has been acting more distant recently and I'm wondering if the fight had anything to do with it. I just feel so weak rn. Anyone got any advice or motivation?
Next time he tries something just beat the fucking shit out of him until he learns his lesson you weak faggot, are you really gonna let a 13 y.o. kid stomp on your ego
Hudson Ramirez
Neither of us have any training so I guess we both suck at grappling.
I was on the ground, I couldn't drop him but that was a nice move.
Lincoln Adams
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Ryan Wright
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Liam Bell
Punch him in the fucking mouth, knock his damn teeth out.
Nolan Lee
you should get stronger and better at wrestling and then put your brother in his rightful place on the dominance hierarchy
you feel beta because you literally just got beta'd, you lost the fight (to a younger person, with same DNA as you) and have low serotonin, will cause a whole bunch of biological things that signal "beta" - low posture, higher anxiety, low assertiveness
if you cant improve your fighting abilities, work on your posture, body can't really tell which way it comes from so if you are standing tall, your body will feel more alpha and will increase serotonin, which will make you feel more confident.
Cameron Parker
your brother either trained grappling or watched ufc you have the weight advantage. use it you fucking retard. also pick up boxing and beat his smug bitch face in next time he tries to pull something. this legit pissing me off just reading this.
Owen Carter
how did you even get a gf if you're frail enough to get submitted by a literal child
that's not even a proper triangle choke, all you had to do was work your way to your feet/kneeling and pull your head down and out
Nolan Nguyen
Punch him in the face, should break the hold.
If that fails go for the kidneys.
Chase Howard
i'm not even a fighter but I believe I would beat the shit out of him if that happened to me
Michael Martinez
I thought I was about the average strength before, I don't think I got "beta'd" but I will take the advice.
He watches ufc, he doesn't train and I will definitely defend myself if he does this again.
Wyatt Lopez
>I don't think I got "beta'd" You got your ass beat TWICE by a 12 year old. You're as beta as they come.
Charles Ward
I couldn't pull my head down and I couldn't see his face and was too far away from his face to punch him.
Dominic Garcia
your brother is alpha as fuck. you need to recognize that you are a beta dealing with a natural alpha. if you kick his ass now when you have a size advantage it's going to come back to haunt you in a few years when he's bigger (odds are he ends up much larger and stronger than you due to alpha genetics) and swimming in pussy. the best thing for you to do is just know your place and start treating him with respect.
Parker Green
this
Aaron Jones
punch him in the ribs, that's it dunno what's the fuss about
Ian Rivera
Thing with BJJ is that size/strength doesnt play a huge role unless theres a huge difference. Which apparently there isnt, you must legitimately be weak af or a turbo-manlet
Camden Young
>alpha genetics
this means he has higher serotonin bc of alpha qualities, and less stress, so his body is going to use the resources to grow, not fight against itself with stress
seriously, work on your serotonergic pathways
stress and anxiety are constant at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy, and the dominance hierarchy is NOT FIXED, it is mutable and regulated by aggressive tests of dominance.
Kayden Kelly
>cucked by his 13yo brother
Top kek, get on hormones and just transition into a girl
Jason Scott
What is all the alpha and beta comments? He's not an alpha and I'm not a beta. I've beat him before at wrestling, I honestly think that he got a few lucky moves.
Brandon Adams
the words to use to describe things, specifically your low serotonin as a result of this dominance test
alpha just means the winner, beta means the loser
Isaiah Bennett
you see alphas are always getting the few lucky moves.
Wyatt Ortiz
holy fuck you beta faggot your 13 year old brother beat you in a fight and now is fucking your GF.
he was right about you.
Kayden Miller
dude he's 13 years old and thinks he has a chance with your 18 year old girlfriend, and he's confident and aggressive enough to physically challenge you for her. and win. your brother is an absolutely top tier alpha and you need to bow down and accept your role as the beta male. if you don't he'll make your life miserable when he inevitably grows up to be physically, socially, and sexually superior to you.
Eli Nelson
C'mon man, do you honestly believe in that pseudo-science? "Higher serotonin bc of alpha qualities", that's not a real thing. The dominance heirarchy is about money, not strength.
So why can't we just say winner and loser?
Austin Reyes
this.
luck is a huge part of chad genetics.
Josiah Cox
This. You should kill him in his sleep OP, it's the only way you'll win.
Aaron Watson
because you're a beta faggot who doesn't even accept their bitch status
Colton Diaz
your little brother is now king of Veeky Forums you pussy ass faggot
Jose Morgan
>just beat the fucking shit out of him until apparently he's too much of a fucking pussy to be physically capable of this.
Ethan Sanchez
dude, lobsters have dominance hierarchies, shit is OLDER THAN TREES
and when they test animals the system that makes them puff up and show off, be assertive and aggressive, it's serotonin mediated (this is why depressed people are so weak)
there is tons of legit scientific studies to back this up, and when you figure it out it makes a shit ton of sense regarding your own personal life.
Carson Adams
Your relationship is beyond saving but your dignity can be salveaged, OP.
You gotta train on a punching bag and then beat the shit out of that kid the next time he tries something. Punch him hard in the nose.
Sebastian Rodriguez
seriously you're being a beta. you know what to do. If he starts bullshitting, beat his ass. Don't go overboard, because if you do he'll hold a grudge. But just beat him fair and square and he'll respect you.
I was in a similar situation when I was a kid. My brother was 3 years older than me and would constantly beat my ass just because he was frustrated. He knew he could so he did, it's the same game your little brother is playing. When I was 12, I started hitting puberty so things were beginning to level.
The next time when he fought me I beat his ass across the whole house. In the end, I had him full mount and was striking his face hammer fist. We've never fought again. You get it?
Cooper Reed
ok OP i'll solve this what are you and your brother's first names?
Gabriel Foster
>he didn't respond to tapouts Bite him??
Ryder Bailey
>why can't we just say winner and loser?
we can, but winner and loser are TRAITS of alpha and beta behavior, it's the thing that moderates and confirms status.
up until before your brother made you puke and lose control of a primary function of your body, the dominance hierarchy was less well known in your house, you had more serotonin levels, felt less afraid and more confident with your girlfriend. After the test of dominance... you felt more beta, your body reacted in this way and your girlfriend PROBABLY NOTICED THIS TOO.
William Flores
Learn bjj faggot. Good way to get into another sweaty man's thighs- I mean guard
Samuel Baker
He's not fucking my girlfriend and he has no chance with her, my girlfriend wouldn't do that.
Okay, that's because I'm not a bitch. He sneak attacked me, what am I supposed to do about that?
Samuel Russell
this is literally fake
I cannot believe a functioning 18 year old couldn't break free from a 13 year old
Logan Ross
>my girlfriend wouldn't do that. holy fuck beta bob, he is literally pounding the shit out of her as you shitpost on Veeky Forums about how much of a pussy you are. go ahead, call her.
Elijah Garcia
he's probably not fucking your girlfriend but she's definitely fucking someone after that sort of emasculation
James Taylor
>functioning key word here. do you remember what this place is? nothing about is suggests that we are >functioning
Eli Carter
I couldn't move my head.
Why?
Parker Robinson
It will tell me everything I need to know about how your parents raised you
Luke King
Why didn't you just raise him up from when you were on the ground and slam him on the ground. Continue doing that hard and he will eventually have to let his grip loose since it will hurt so much.
Julian Morris
>YFW op walks in on his brother making op's GF cum.
Its about time you accept your position as the jeb bush of the family. Your brother made you look like a little bitch not once but TWICE.
Jackson Russell
This has to be fake. Youre 18 he is 12... the size and muscle difference is huge... just in case this is legit post: beat the shit out of him one, just once but you gotta do it proper. Then its settled for a long time
Thomas Mitchell
>The dominance heirarchy is about money, not strength
the dominance hierarchy is about who is displaying dominance, and society gives a lot of different ways to do that now. But one enduring way is to possess skills or show ability to learn new skills, this is actually more attractive to a women than a wealthy man with no skills, and this makes sense because women are looking for someone who can ASCEND to the top of the dominance hierarchy, and because it's mutable not fixed, skills to master the hierarchy are more sought after than just money (a position at the top)
you can be a beta king, you can be a cucked rich man.
improve your posture and regulate yr serotonin bro
Isaac Parker
This. OP, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You're not "athletic" if you can't laugh while a 13 year old tries to challenge you. You're weak because somewhere along the line you got fucking complacent, and did absolutely nothing of value to actually cultivate the strength you convinced yourself you had.
And yes, complacency bores the SHIT out of women, too. "Lazy, complacent faggot who gets rekt by 13-year-olds" sounds more like a hypothetical superweapon designed to destroy the enemy's birthrates by shutting down the arousal centers of their women permanently, not a fucking "athletic" man.
Matthew Bailey
>wen ur lil bro fites u >beets u >den fuks yo gurl
Carter Torres
I only puked because he had the hold for 10 minutes. My girlfriend hopefully isn't that shallow.
The hold was too tight, I couldn't move my head, let alone open my mouth to bite.
Lincoln Wright
you mean it's settled for 3-4 years when OP's little brother is big enough to beat the everloving fuck out of him
Owen Fisher
so naive...
Gabriel Rodriguez
>hey its me ur bro >fuckin yo girl while retelling the story of how I beat your ass.
Blake Lopez
it's not a matter of being shallow, it's a matter of you have low serotonin and are displaying qualities that a mate is trying to avoid, logically on a sexual biological level
fix it if you want it fixed
Liam Miller
Claw into his leg?
Jackson Gomez
Okay, then how do I regulate my serotonin? Never even heard of it.
Athletic as in I do a lot of sports like football (soccer if you're American) and track.
Lincoln Ramirez
Dude you got beat up by a 12 year old and you're 18. I was in fucking Pre-BUDS getting ready to go to selection your age. Let that set things in to perspective on how pathetic you are.
Cooper Walker
>I'm a cardio fag so I train to run away why cant I beat up my little brother?
because you are physically inferior.
good luck with the gf leaving you and all.
Samuel Sanders
work on your posture, number 1, serotonin regulates posture, but it can work the other way around, same with how smiling can increase happiness bc the body is mildly retarded and will just assume because it is doing the motion it MUST be experiencing the feeling more too.
so stand up straight.
you want to improve your confidence then i suggest working on improving something concrete. In this scenario i would say improve your strength to the point where your younger brother would NOT be able to overpower you or hold you in a position for 10+ minutes. This might requires some gym type of dedication, welcome to Veeky Forums.
as decidedly un-alpha as it sounds, meditation will also help regulate serotonin and melatonin production and i suggest looking into some transcendental meditation techniques, not as faggy as it sounds basically just putting concentration on the pineal gland in your brain (where the serotonin and melatonin get made) for 5 mins a day, if it's too hard, do 4, if it's easy do 6. baby steps.
you are not a lost cause, you wrote about the problem, that is huge. if you were a lost cause you would have shoved it deep down and taken life like a true beta, without even acknowledging the problem. There's lots of hope if you want to improve yourself.
Jace Peterson
I tried clawing, it didn't do anything. I had to tap because I was getting dizzy.
I'm not physically inferior, I've beaten him in arm wrestles before I just got caught in a couple of moves. Why have you got to make that girlfriend comment man?
Matthew Perez
So you're a footyfag who occasionally takes a break from rolling around in the grass pretending to be hurt to go run, most likely long distance because you're frail body is almost certainly ass at sprinting?
Makes sense.
Lucas Gonzalez
You nerds overthink shit.
The very fact that you're analyzing and dissecting play fighting with your sibling shows you have way more ground to cover than just learning to cope or dealing with an unruly sibling.
One: you're both shitty teens and competition is natural at your ages. Next time a quick dick punch and he's fine. Seriously shrug it off, if you're not down to rough house because of a weak ego, end it before it begins.
As for your girl, she's supremely shitty and stupid if she's swayed by you and your brother rough housing? Assuming she's a teen too so nothing of value was lost.
You're and the rest of the nerds here place way too much emphasis on literally meaningless interactions. Ask yourself "will this matter in a year" lmao no it wont.
You want to really fix your problems? Physically scar your brother and dump your gf.
Jaxon Harris
>I'm not physically inferior, I've beaten him in arm wrestles before or >I'M NOT FAT I LIVE ON THE TOP FLOOR OF MY 3 STORY APARTMENT BUILDING AND TAKES THE STEPS AT LEAST ONCE EVERY WEEK
yeah, ok, I'm sorry that your GF will leave you.
Have you guys had sex? or does she have a chance at a real and happy relationship at least once in her life?
Aaron Hall
Dude his brother who hasn't even reached puberty is beating him up. Take it from a Reconfag. This kid is fucked.
Justin Parker
Your frail body, rather.
Dylan Sanchez
Alright, thank you for some real advice. I definitely will start going to the gym more, maybe gaining some weight.
I'll look into meditation but it all sounds psychological to me. And I do slouch a lot so I'll fix that.
The first fight was play, the second wasn't. I'm not sure if she's swayed by it, maybe it's me who has been distant, who knows? Thank you for this post, I was going insane by the amount of alpha and beta posts.
Sebastian Watson
fuck off bimbo you are stupid, mentally ill and give really and advice
Jack Turner
is bimbo the tranny from PLG?
Joseph Howard
I don't care if you're 18. You're mentally 11 years old and should be range banned from this website
Brody Gonzalez
the words alpha and beta sting right now because your'e not in the right category, don't worry so much about the words, they are just used to classify behaviors, some behaviors make us feel shitty about ourselves. psychological stuff manifests in the physical world as reality.
Jonathan Perez
Nah
Kayden Gutierrez
time to download tinder brother.
sorry for your loss.
Thomas Robinson
no bimbo is the guy from /fraud/ that have done porn, say that there is nothing emasculating about getting pegged and tied down. He is also on big amounts of steroids and still very little muscle, he manages to not look like complete shit because of his long clavicles though
don't talk back to me
Owen Green
lmao do 30 squat thrust push ups, right now faggot
Elijah Gray
Honestly this. It's the only thing that will work if things continue to escalate, unless you are okay with your little brother being superior to you.
More like psychologically capable.
Jonathan Harris
This can't be real.
Brayden Parker
Your little brother is fucking awesome.
>My girlfriend took the picture as she was finding the whole thing hilarious. I tapped out HAHAHAHAHAHA
>So later on, I was watching tv when my brother sneak attacks me and places me in a bodyscissor (legs around waist) while twisting both of my arms. I'm stuck for what must have been about 10 minutes (he didn't respond to tap outs) and start throwing up. My brother tells me to say that "I lick donkey balls" out loud otherwise he would continue squeezing and I did. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Admit defeat, OP. The kid is just too damn alpha.
Noah Collins
I'm on just test. I use actually very moderate amounts of gear. The past 5 months of been on only 700mg of product at most.
And I'm decently large at 255lbs.
Ryan Walker
Punch that lil cunt next time he >looks at you >opens a cabinet/door/fridge >talks to you without calling you sir >stands less than 3 feet from you And I don't mean light punch rough housing pussy shit. Actually deck that fucker. Keep punching him until he's you're bitch
Eli Carter
wow, sounds like a faggot.
you're a faggot, and getting fucked is literally the definition of being emasculated as you are taking on the woman's role and taking semen into you.
Ian Turner
To each his own.
Anyways OP this is all a really big non issue and discussing here will make it a rooted poison in your mind. If you feel somehow invalidated consider why you feel that way and make the changes necessary so you don't feel that way again.
All of the psychological nonsense here though will fuck your head.
Joshua Davis
What you are on now and what you recently was on doesn't matter, you have been on very large amounts of gear >And I'm decently large at 255lbs. so? you are 6'4 right?
Anthony Ross
Threads not about me dude go talk to OP.
Justin Collins
I warned him about not taking advice from you. You didn't have to respond.
Ian Reed
>>Threads not about me >refuses to take off trip code and name for attention
Hunter Campbell
I think I'm going to just ignore my brother and start a martial arts class or something.
He's been the most sane person here desu, of course I'm going to take advice from him.
Cameron Stewart
>I think I'm going to just ignore my brother lol
beta move
Christopher Cooper
so beta, wtf, did u learn nothing from this?
Ryan Myers
>he told me what I wanted to hear so I will listen to him exclusively
jesus christ you have the most beta mindset.
Mason Stewart
OP don't fucking worry. I broke up with my gf because she kept flirting with my little brother (who was 11 at the time) For example they would kiss on the lips, she would steal my candy and give it to him by placing it down her shirt and letting him reach in etc. She was pissing me the fuck off, so I told her we were through because she was trying to fuck my brother. In the ensuing argument she made the point that she wouldn't sleep with a child because she isn't a pedophile, and then refused to get back with me. To make fun of me she slept in his bed that night before leaving for good. Don't make mountains out of this, girls just find kids cute.
Cooper Lee
>unironically bragging that you beat a 12 year old at wrestling a few times
Easton Ward
you are still in an age where you compete for dominance through violence. put the lil fucker in his place. he's not going to be mad at you, he's not gonna die. only thing that will happen is that will get your confidence back
Leo Ross
I hope your brother steals your girlfriend too.
John Smith
if this isn't a troll: Punch him in the fucking face and make him cry like a bitch. He's 13 for fuck sake.
Owen Reed
No he is not the most sane person here. Your 12 year old brother managing to win over you two times and your girlfriend taking a pic of it is emasculating. In the wild males fight each other to have sex with females, your brother wanted to impress your girlfriend so he wrestled you and won, and even worse your girlfriend took a pic of it because she found the situation funny (because you are pathetic and getting beaten by your little brother.
Start going to the gym, gain some weight and take martial arts classes
also this you only think that he is the most sane person here because he have the same mindset as you
Juan Collins
kek at Thanksgiving ten years from now you're still gonna be his bitch
You HAVE to beat the fuck out of him the next time he tries something. You have to scare him half to death.