Burger here...

Trafalgar was a shitshow.

The French Navy was essentially dismantled after the Revolution because it was a Royalist corps. It kept the ships but the majority of the officers and trained cadres were purged. So they ended up with a fleet commanded and manned by absolute morons that resulted in megaretarded displays like the one in Aboukir.

The Spanish fleet was essentially blockaded since 1796 and left to rot since all the moneys were going to subsidize France. By 1805 the ships were in a terrible shape and the crews had zero experience.

In summary, you could have put a monkey in charge of the British fleet and the outcomes of Aboukir and Trafalgar would have been the same.

Nothing of that mattered at a continental level though, as the brits were irrelevant to its outcome. In fact the peak of the Napoleonic Empire was 1812, right before the Russian campaign. That's what killed France. The nail on the coffin was Leipzig.

There was Some post about the Elizabeth Clocktower chiming in with a bong like sound

Their lack of dental hygiene leads to their teeth being stained like the inside of a bong. Now shoo back to rebbit, newfriend.

Lol, was he supposed to knew every maymay?

He was pretty pissed for being made ony a baron for his victories. He should have been made an Earl at least.

Think of a building that would symbolise Britain. Something on all the postcards and posters and used in games and movies as shorthand to show events are taking place in Britain.

Now, what sound comes out of that building?

>when really it was Big Man Nelson and Trafalgar that brought the hammer down on old Boney

Pretty sure it was the Russian winter
Napoleon reached the height of his power 5 years after Nelson had died like a bitch

Tell that to people who think that Richard "Lionheart" de Plantagenet and Henry V de Plantagenet are English just because of their birthplace

Dont tell me what to do faggot.

>Another bong ignoring Blucher

The fact is Waterloo stopped Napoleon, all other defeats were set-backs which he rebounded from.

ah that makes sensse thanks

>it was Big Man Nelson and Trafalgar that brought the hammer down on old Boney
How? I mean yeah Trafalgar was the biggest naval victory of the whole war, but it's not like it was particularly important strategically nor particularly unique. Big fleet battles between the french trying to escape the harbours and the english squadrons blockading them happened like a dozen times, and the brits won pretty much every time they actually managed to force a battle without the french breaking clear off (which also happened dozens of times, generally creating plenty of chaos around the world raiding trade). The likes of Jervis and Saumarez pretty much made their reputation with the very similar battles of Cape St. Vincent and Algeciras. Hell the Nile too was basically the same shit as Trafalgar.
It's not like anything changed for the royal navy after the battle, since it was still bogged down blockading every french naval base and it kept acting on the presumption that Boney would still be willing and capable of mounting an invasion of Britain well into 1812.
The napoleonic wars were won by the continental armies in a war of attrition generated by the blockade rather than actual fleet battles.

I think its important to note, an free Britain was an important symbol to the nations of Europe who were under the French whip, it gave them hope to resist.

>wellington
>Irish
Fucking 3/24th plastic paddys need to be exterminated

Sure, but it's not like Trafalgar was any more important to keeping that ideal alive than the Nile or St. Vincent.

Its as important as the BoB, Napoleon was incapable of invading Britain, and ruling "all" of europe because of it.

>Its as important as the BoB

Which is to say not at all

That's pretty much false. Neither Napoleon nor the british admiralty thought the invasion impossible after Trafalgar, as shown by Keith still being given orders of preparing the Channel Fleet for possible invasion attempts as late as 1814 and in effect spending his last two commands doing nothing but defensive preparations against invasion threats.

>hurr durr it wuz just the continentals
Do people not realise that Trafalgar BTFO the French Navy once and for all which meant absolutely no chance of invading Britain for Napoleon, which is more important than people think, and it ensured that Britain could keep control of the sea. The latter point meant that Napoleon's Continental System was doomed to failure and ultimately his empire as well. It was just a matter of time. Sure, the continentals did most of the fighting and dying, but Britain was ultimately responsible for creating the conditions that ALLOWED them to keep fighting and dying. Without Britain, Napoleon could've BTFO the rest of the Europe and they would've stayed BTFO.

This is pretty much propaganda. The invasion was called off two months before Trafalgar when Napoleon needed those 350k men he had stashed away in Normandy waiting for the invasion to repel the approaching russo-austrian armies.
After that point he never had the manpower disponibility to actually attempt an invasion regardless of the state of the french navy.
Besides, it's not like Trafalgar changed anything in the naval power balance: Britain was clearly superior and closely blockading France before the battle, and the same after the battle.

If any naval battle could be said to have stopped the invasion, that battle would be Finisterre rather than Trafalgar anyway, and the glory ought to be Calder's.

>After that point he never had the manpower disponibility to actually attempt an invasion regardless of the state of the french navy.
You're forgetting the fact that he could've used Austrian, Prussian, and possibly even Russian soldiers (had he been successful) to invade Britain as well. Britain stopped this by continuing to trade with Russia, Russia's refusal to stop this trading is what led to the disastrous invasion that would not have otherwise been attempted. Without Britain Russia would've stayed an ally of France after Tilsit which basically kept all of Europe under French dominance.

You are right but Nelson won a smashing victory against superior numbers, Calder managed a strategic victory that is underrated but he didn't gain a tactical victory

>Without Britain Russia would've stayed an ally of France after Tilsit which basically kept all of Europe under French dominance.
Uh, Russia was at WAR with Britain after Tilsit, a war that ended when Napoleon invaded.

Are you not aware that Russia was trading with Britain before the invasion? It was literally Napoleon's casus belli, he hoped to force Britain into accepting peace through blockade but because he didn't control the sea, he had to force everyone on the continent to adhere to his Continental System. Russia didn't which is why he invaded. This is hardly disputed.

>an free Britain
>Britain
>free

>an

nelson and wellington were cucks.

based COCHRANE was alpha

>Nelson, a midshipman not yet 15, had joined a ship attempting to find a north-east passage, like the Austro-Hungarian expedition 99 years later. With the ship balked by ice north of Spitsbergen, young Nelson set off across the ice to shoot a polar bear. His musket misfired, and he attempted to belabour the beast with the butt end.

Jesus Christ, what an actual madman.

Nope it was January in Russia that sent Napoleon packing.

With britain out of the equation, Napoleon would have ruled over the european shores, and most of the trading routes. The Austrians, Prussians and Russians would'nt have been able to fund the war for much long.

>money came from third world shithole

Britnigger pls
Europe was the most advanced continent back then and basically self-reliant in everything but useless spices and cocoa

So go sell the "impressiveness" of your third world empire of dirt somewhere else

UK was the cash machine for each coalition that declared war to Napoleon, bec à foin.

T. Retard

It's a fact England supplied vast sums of money to all three continental powers to oppose France. The Austrian Emperor literally made a whiny quip about it after getting trashed at Austerlitz. They supplied millions to Prussia for man power and even weapons.

The Russians wanted coffee and sugar...Unless they wanted French Beetroot sugar the only alternative was coming from the brits. In return the brits wanted furs along with Baltic supplies for ships like timber.