Leaving behind degeneracy

Thank you. Pro tip guys, take a vitamin B complex and D as well. Hydrate like a mofo and take a walk or exercise every time you get that feeling.

how does vitamin b or d help? does it make you feel better?

Most alcoholics are severely deficient in vitamin B, and also D and C to a degree. Many doctors megadose those during the withdrawal process because your brain and body desperately need it... has increased sobriety success rate too. Look up wet brain for a good idea of what alcohol does to your body's ability to absorb vitamins. Also alcohol pretty much neutralizes testosterone. Explains the wasted workouts and bitch nipples.

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just about a week off 10 a day for 3? years
feeling good
you continue doing good user

ah i see. Well keep grinding user, i truly wish only the best for you

I tried to steer my alcoholism into a better relationship. It's my only vice left. Quit dipping. Quit being a fat fuck. Started running and working out. Can't seem to stop drinking. I have cut way back to only 1 beer a night with a day every now and then of no alcohol. Shit sucks.

keep going user, we're all behind you

Gonna dump some pics that might help other anons

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Good man. Its not worth it.

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How to stop smoking weed everyday and lose fat ?

From Mac to dennis

routine?

That post is ridiculous, of course you can eat Froot Loop on your birthday.

I understand what he's getting at, but slippery slope is not an argument. You're not going to shoot heroin into your eyeballs if you get prescribed Oxycodone for a broken leg, you're not going to get fat from eating a big bowl of sugary cereal on your birthday. Problems arise from consistent indulgence, occasional indulgence is fine.

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For the femanons

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remember when the withdrawls come, it will only last about a week. The worst of it. Stock up on camamil tea, maybe order some kava..

Power through. You can expect at the worst time, panic attacks, primal fear and insomnia..

But remember this your bodys way of punishing you for the abuse. Get through the rough parts, your mind and body will reward you with clarity and balance.

Exercise -

Congrats on reclaiming your life from the alchol/drug jew.

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Diet? Routine?

woah damn she got away scot free in regards to stretch marks and loose skin.

that almost defies logic.

inspiring brother. Keep it up.. Post again in a week.

final one

How did the weight loss effect your vaginal hygiene? Did the smell change? Did the taste change?

>1 beer a night
>Alcoholism

You know how i know youre still in highschool?

Is that the natty limit?

not that user, but you realise he said he cut down to 1 beer, not that he started at 1 beer, right?

I've come to realize that most of my addiction lies in having something to drink in my hand. My problem was finding something that's not bad for you. If I wasn't downing beer after beer, I was drinking a gallon of random soda. I can drink water, but it just gets bland after a while. At the moment, I think I have found my savior. Right now, I drink about a gallon of sparkling water with a lemon twist. I'm pretty sure there are no drawbacks to it, and it tastes great.

this is too extreme. The point of life is balance. Keep on your diet 95% of the time. This is your life style, it is normal, it is just the way it is.

The other 5% occasions, going out, whatever its such a small part of your life it will make no different at all..

idk bro, i was hoping this was

its pretty close..

> 7 years natty

keep hoping lol

Buddy I haven't stopped since high school. Im 28 now. It's been such a struggle just to get here. I never thought I had a problem until I tried to stop. First night easy 2 night can't sleep shaky and anxious. Yet to make it 3 nights. But just a beer or shot is enough for me to stop feeling shitty and cloudy. Thank God. No intention to offend those drinking a Fifth a night.

A loving and supportive GF forces you to be better and fix everything, I tell ye

weaning off of any addiction is recommended. You do not have to put your self through the torture of cold turkey withdrawal..

But you have to be real with yourself. Are you going to set a schedule and keep to it.

for example - First find the dose you can take so you wont feel like shit. Not get high or drunk or even buzzed - just not feel like shit, feel ok is the goal..

Every 3-4 days at the same time, stay within an hour or two, lower your dose. If its alcohol, 1/2 a beer less, if its pills a 1/4 less.. Stick with this till you are down to nothing..

It really makes quiting so much easier, but you have to want it..

Thanks user

How tall are you and did you have to cut hard or just moderately. I'm pretty much it second pic rn

FUCK
The body on 'after' has me absolutely diamonds

>want an after pic
>still in the "during" phase
>didn't take a before pic
I'm a fuckup

youtube.com/watch?v=jzEoYJEay9I

What game?

Same. I was too ashamed of taking a pic of my before body

>be me during the last week.
>quit job to violently detox
>go through Train Spotting withdrawal symptoms
>hallucinations
>loss of consciousness
>shaking and crying
>BAD
And so ends my 5 year long crippling addiction to Malaysian tree grog.

I still hurt bad with no energy. Today for the first time in 7 days I finally left the house.

>Malaysian tree grog

Explain.

I was a meth head for four years. Started with weed, then pills(opiates, xannies, uppers), then coke and eventually the meth. I didn't get out totally okay either, I now have schizophrenia.

I quit because things weren't making sense and I said one day that doing this the rest of my life wasn't worth ending up like some of the people I was hanging out with.

Dealing with my stuff anymore is okay, but at first it was awful.

My tip is, keep going. Stay clean and do your best not to fuck up. Spending all that money, time and all that doing all the shit is not worth it in the end. You'll look back two years later and say, "Damn, that was me?" We're all gonna make brahs.

>alcoholic for 8+ years
>quit drinking for 30 days in December
>way more energy
>clear head, always thinking
>restless as fuck
>anxious as shit because now my brain is firing on all cylinders and suddenly I'm worried about everything
>have mental breakdown and make ex gf almost file restraining order
>get my best friends so pissed off they basically take turns beating the shit out of me
>start drinking again
>life is normal again

Yeah fuck being sober.

Kratom. Find a wholesaler to sell you 4 kilos a month online that you then preced pour down your throat for the next few years... then you'll know my pain.

holy fucking kek, thats the first I've seen that good on you bro

Keep going man, I believe in you.

We're all gonna make it

About to enter the "degenerate" lifestyle of an occasional recreational drug user, any tips for not getting addicted to something you like too much?

That's not how it works.

Guess you're just an asshole.

Will try the b and d.
If nothing else I might get a bit of placebo effect since I'll think it's helping.

Pretty curious if I'll see the difference in gains with a month sober and sleeping more.

I thought I was the only one who got panic attacks and existential dread.
Good to know it's just a symptom and not just normal mode me.

Keep smoking I have a family to feed

Yeah.

I want to kiss your stomach

I'm still struggling with my anorexia. I still don't quite understand what was going on in my head but three years ago something snapped and I starved myself down to 100lb at 5'8 before I realised what the fuck I was doing.

I started eating more and lifting about a year ago, weight has gone up a lot, but food still feels sinful. Also I still feel fat. I feel so much better though, and I hope over time I will overcome this sickness. Stay strong brothers.

Agree and disagree. Sure it'd important to keep balance but up to a certain point you have to grow up and harden up and remove any weakness from your body. When you do so,you find that getting stronger is more enjoyable then short term gratification.

The brain takes several years to return to a healthy state after chronic alcohol abuse. Entirely possible, though, thanks to neuroplasticity.

Most of the people I've known in recovery have told me it takes several months before their mind returns to "normal." Don't lose hope, user.

>Sure it'd important to keep balance but up to a certain point you have to grow up and harden up and remove any weakness from your body
All or nothing is much harder to stick to than being able to enjoy things in moderation.

What is the point of being shredded if a bowl of shredded wheat will send you into a two-week spiral of depression?

I was never really addicted to booze. My dad was a pathetic drunk, so booze just didn't seem that great to me. I will drink every now and then, but I can't get my self to be wasted. The same goes for weed. It was fun smoking weed when I was younger, but now that I'm older, weed just seems kinda like waste of time/money.

My problem is that I'm addicted to porn. I enjoy watching those POV/JOI type videos because there more personal. Like its almost like the girl is there and she talking dirty to you. I'm a lonely guy in his 20's thats never had a gf, so those women in the porn give me a connection (I know beta AF).

I'm trying to stop watching porn in general because I've read a lot of bad things that happen to people who get completely hooked on it.

Its been 12 days since I jerked off, but its only been like 12 hrs since I watched porn.

Got any tips?

>watching porn and not jerking off
Dane Cook? Tell me about wolf dick!

No but really, if you stop watching porn you aren't suddenly going to get a GF. Nothing happens with girls unless you make it happen, you don't need to stop watching porn or jerking off (maybe cut back 1/day). What you need to do is go outside and meet people.

Alcohol is really just a shitty alternative to all the vastly superior drugs out there that normies fall to because it's socially acceptable to drink what is essentially poison to the human body.

If you enjoy being on drugs then put in some work to get a hold of something that is less damaging and provides a better high. Resorting to alcohol to acquire a high is really the mark of someone who is pathetically tied down by their situation.

Quit (in order):
>weed
>booze
>molly
>shrooms
>lsd
>cigs
>vaping
>caffeine (heavily reduced only; I'll still have tea now and again)
>antidepressants
>porn (in progress) [I just find orgasms aren't as satisfying when they occur while watching]
Now that I'm finally off SSRIs, gonna start hitting the gym again. Coming off of them was worse and way harder than anything else on my list.
Still on my ADHD meds and I still play vidya. Not sure if I'm really wanting or ready to give either of those up.

i used heroin and tried to maintain my life for many years. i have a job and work out, i've always tried so hard to maintain the addiction and my other habits, but after 6 years i've kicked it, it's been 62 days and i'm never looking back. good luck OP. it is degenerate. kick it and never look back. people who don't have addiction problems will say shit like
>just do it in moderation
>if you can't do it in moderation you're weak, you're _________

nah. never again.

dude this is seriously the worst idea ever. this mentality is the first step towards addiction. don't listen to people who tell you it's possible in moderation. it's possible for some people, and for others it leads to years of lying, stealing, crying, pain, real real pain, loss of loved ones, loss of jobs, girlfriends, wives, houses. some people use in moderation and walk away unscathed, yes. that's like saying you played russian roulette and survived. there is no reward for playing, NONE. why would you want to risk it. it's not worth it bro. i wish i could give the memories of my hardships and losses to other people so they can truly understand that it's not worth it.

>you played russian roulette and survived. there is no reward for playing, NONE
Confirmed for never having used drugs

It feels REALLY good. Good enough to make you want to do this.
>years of lying, stealing, crying, pain, real real pain, loss of loved ones, loss of jobs, girlfriends, wives, houses

>2017
>still believing the ADHD Jew meme
Have fun buying pills that treat a disease that isn't real.
>caffeine
No reason to not have caffeine in your life unless you are taking stupid amounts late in the day.

You're just a memetastic degenerate, I bet people hate being around you.

never having used drugs? you have no idea man. there is no point in rebuttal to this. good luck.

What's with the attitude, user? Is everything all right?

>this drug is okay
>that drug is not
Nice hypocrisy

There's no lasting reward for using drugs, I agree. The point I'm making is that when you use drugs you feel a sense of instant gratification and relief, very similarly to food. There's no benefit to overeating, but people still do it because it makes them feel good.

i understand that, that's the danger of it. i speak dramatically only because of what i've slogged through in my life because of drug use. if i quit years before, i would have a different outlook. but burying half a dozen friends from highschool, losing a house, a job, a fiancee, those things sting a little. and i lost them specifically because at the time the drug WAS worth all of it. but i'm vehemently antidrug now due to my own personal experiences, i'm aware of how they /can/ be used, but i'm biased. the only drugs i don't regret doing are hallucinogens, specifically DMT, LSD, and psilocybin.

I've had experiences with every category of drug, and I was "addicted" to weed for 5 years (g/day). Whenever I could get my hands on drugs I would use them in addictive patterns, but I never actively looked for anything besides weed after I would run out. For instance, I bought a tub of k-pins from one of my old highschool friends and must've eaten a hundred of them before I ran out, but when I swallowed the last one I never even thought to look for someone who could deal them. Similarly whenever I got prescriptions for opiates I'd work through the 30-day supply in a week, but I never felt the urge to go out and buy more. I used to drink like a fish until the bottle ran out, but once it did I would go without for weeks.

The reason I smoked weed wasn't because I felt like I needed it, I just found it fun to do every day and never saw any negative effects. I wouldn't have stopped if I didn't need to get a job, and I'll definitely be smoking again when I move to a legal state or it becomes federally legalized.

I know hard drugs are a lot different than weed and I got lucky by having a fairly benign drug of choice. In principle I'm anti-drug, but I think we need to reclassify what a drug is and stop incarcerating people for drug offenses. Addicts need help, not prison. Yeah, throw them in jail for two weeks to detox and require a program but don't give them a ten year sentence in federal prison for it.

>caffeine is a drug
Kek. No, don't listen to everything Oprah and those fat bitches on the View tell you.
>taking drugs for a condition that was made up to sell the drug
Yeah let me prescribe you methadone for your being aware of other people's opinions disease you have, I'm sure it will clear it right up.

I remember reading an article when that guy did it like 5 years ago. It was a basic bro split with daily cardio. He also had a personal trainer and dietician

really activating my neurons here

See a therapist. They will help you sort your shit out in only a few sessions if theyre good. Totally worth like 2-300$

Ya i have a tip. You dont have to stop jerking off, you just have to stop watching porn. Its legit impossible for most people to nut everyday witgout porn, so your jerking off will decrease as well. But you problem isnt the negative health effects of nutting too often, its the psychological effects of porn addiction. Look at yourbrainonporn.com. it seems like momscience at first but its helped people. Give it a shot

nice, now you know you can beat whatever. Opiate withdrawl is one of the worst you can go through. You made it..

jerk off when you are really horny only using your imagination..

quit porn..

You seem real negative dude you doing ok yourself? I have adhd isbt real is petty and misinformed. Just like many mental illnesses, its harder to recognize or "prove" and it cant be cured, only treated. People really do have different genetics/brain chemical balances than you tho. Just because you dont understand doesnt mean we're lying. Try to be open minded. Thanks

>>take turns beating the shit out of me
>letting yourself be beat up
>not punching,biting,clawing,gouging,and doing every damn thing in your power to hurt those traitorous fucks attacking you
>losing to alcohol

beta as fuck user

Nobody gives a shit, faggot.

You're not gonna make it. You're gonna get back to drinking soon enough. 7 days is nothing.

Playing Dark Souls as i read this, thanks for the kek

When will you alcoholets learn?

>get on the ganja. Get swole.

i'm pretty sure that going of alcohol cold turkey, especially if youre a long term alcoholic, can be fatal