Whats your vice?

Currently in college and taking dabs everynight. I'm trying to quit, despite only smoking before I go to bed every night I feel that smoking in general effects my personality. It makes me feel more insecure and less outgoing when I'm in social situations. Are there any other daily smokers here? Does it effect your gym gains, your social gains?

I used to smoke daily for a few months, tolerance got too high so I quit for a month
Now I just smoke on occasion which is even more enjoyable

Did you feel in those months that your personality changed at all?

>dabs everynight

I took one at my cousin's pot farm and it fucked me up

In my case, it is drinking and eating junk food and abusing caffeine pills.

And porn. Lots of it.

yeah I end up getting high once a week or so... definitely a drop from every day over the summer/last year when I was depressed but I need to quit soon for clinical (nursing school)

I noticed I became way more social when I stopped

Smoked two bowls a day for about a year and a half

The main thing I've noticed since going clean two years ago is how much more stupid I feel. In high school I was much more intellligent and I could breeze through shit without really thinking. Now I can feel myself being a little slower than I used to be. I'm not retarded level but I'm not a straight A student like I used to be. Also really stunted my social growth. It got to the point where all I had were dumbass stoner friends who wound up getting caught and thrown in jail after I got clean. Weed also made me more beta and fucked up my general health for years. I put on like 50 pounds during that period, still working to get rid of it.

All that being said, it's only because I'm a HIGHLY addictive person. In order for me to not get attached to something I have to be supremely diligent so none of what I said may happen to you or anyone else OP. If you can control the urge to smoke or don't do it often then no big deal. But if you're smoking every day on heavy shit (like I was) you're on the road to snap-life city

>Whats your vice?
Veeky Forums

Pussy

Op here, this almost to a tee explains my situations. I'm also have a very addictive personality and I blame it on my autism because of how routine my days have to be. I have to have a dab before I go to bed every night. I've noticed my test grades dropping lately and I think it could be because of the effects THC has on short term memory. The people who say weed and products of the like don't effect you negatively are in denial. This post made me want to quit, thanks user

smoking turns me into an insecure pussy. i get red in the face, all stuffed up, lose all my energy, and want to withdraw from everyone. Honestly think Im allergic but for these reasons I quit

I used to hit dabs pretty much every day out of an RDA on a vape. You really dont need it daily, it fucks with you. Try cutting back to every other day, then only weekends, then however much else you wana cut back.

>partying
>pussy, more specifically high quality pussy. Immediately after I've fucked a hot girl I'm thinking about how to fuck an even hotter one.
>chocolate
>Veeky Forums

that's about it

Yeah i feel more clearheaded. And definetly less complaicent and docile. Im also a bit more confident because im not constantly thinking "can they tell im high?, Was that weird? Am i laughing too loud?" Id say overall you'll change for the better. I also dont run to weed when i dont like my emotions, i just face the problem/cry it out/ figure shit out. Do yourself a fovor OP and see the change for yourself

ive smoked every day for like 6 years or so now, only exception being for a 3 week trip I took out of states. last fall 2016 was my last semester as an ungrad at my university where I graduated and received a 3.96 GPA. I now continue to do research for my university in both the psychology and engineering departments.
smoking weed is not your problem, YOU are your problem. I never earned straight A grades until I started smoking daily. As far as affecting personality, all weed does is lower your inhibitions and allows more of your natural personality to shine through vs. the filters you put in place over time. you're probably just genuinely an insecure person and not very outgoing in general and force yourself to be something you're not most of the time while not smoking.
As far as gym gains, ive never been more fit. probably like 20% bf (female), 35-25-36 measurements, and I workout about 12 hours a week. weed is the only reason I'm able to workout as much as I can because it helps alleviate chronic pain in my back/wrist from accidents

sounds more like you just grew and up and decided to blame the weed for your shortcomings. people aren't the same people they were as teenagers forever, thats not how life/humans work- we change and evolve over time. if you dont work to change and evolve in the right way, you're probably going to get worse over time

Op here, I take mine the same way. Out of a vape addy in my dorm room. Thought only I did this lol

also side note I smoke an average of 1gram a day. I cannot attest to those who smoke like 1ounce in a sitting
saying "two bowls" is pretty stupid dude, a bowl size can vary greatly from a small pinch to a giant 2gram nug

I smoke 4-5 bowls a day but do so to keep migraine headaches at bay. Weed has helped me relax from severe anxiety. I can now go to class and function properly when I'm high. If not I need to take medication and that stuff can really get you in a rut. I am able to slow down my thoughts now and think about things thoroughly without getting nervous. But don't drink caffeine and smoke or you'll have some bad panic attacks.

these

Considered. Thanks user, I can do this

I dont know about this. Ive always been an incredibly outgoing, funny and charismatic guy. But when im daily smoking Im super laid back, not much desire to do crazy shit, i dont feel myself, but you're saying the way I am when I smoke is how I naturally am? Doesnt make much sense

Nutella. If I cut this out of my diet, my diet would have zero sweets, or chocolate. But I can't get enough of it.

Snoop dog diet for me when im bulking

My vice is that I'm afraid of developing vices, so I wind up not having any fun and acting mildly neurotic sometimes.
>Apprehensive about drinking
>Eating out is stressful because I don't know if it's fucking up my diet
>Only have sex if I'm emotionally invested in a girl
>Wake up early to work out almost every morning, even in situations like when girls stay over or when I'm home from college on holidays
I might have anxiety or something, honestly.

Red Bull. Probably buy one a day. Not a money issue but god damn, I know it is a waste.

Imo most stoners come across like they have autism.

Licking women's sweaty assholes and cramming my nose into them and making them pee on me.

What the fuck is with you guys and weed?

Not only does it vastly improve my happiness, it helps my introspection and self-discipline. It forces me to think about shit I've been hiding or putting off, or specifically makes me paranoid about stuff I've not been wanting to face.

Yes, my memory is impacted slightly but usually only in social settings, where the stakes are much lower usually.

Im home for spring break and have gone 4 days without weed, the longest so far this semester. Its honestly not hard to stop, but just sitting around is so much less fun sober. Though i try to make sure Ive gotten my lift done for the day because so many times I've said ill smoke and lift in a few hours but never do.

Havent felt any different with the 4 day t break and havent felt any cravings, just miss being able to play videogames baked.

Everyone understood what he meant you stupid cunt

do you feel like the weed/thc has effected your mental capacity/lowered intelligence in any way. I get really paranoid about this shit sometimes.

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I smoke marijuana every day. Its weird, I started lifting and getting in shape about the same time I started smoking (2 years ago). I only smoke at night before I go too bed it helps me relax. I probably am addicted and need too stop, not too mention the money you spend on it really does add up.

sitting in a weird position while I am on the computer

>I need weed so I don't hurt when I work out because accidents!
Toughen up, pussy. No one "needs" weed for anything.

Same. $40 for dabs a week and take them every night before bed. Feels addict man

smoked a fuckton early in highschool.
i specifically remember coming playing football after a summer of smoking heavy and being able to run 2 minutes less than my previous years mile

2 minutes more*
basically fucked with my lungs and effected my running

I'll stop inhaling marijuana when you stop inhaling oxygen.

Thank you so much for this thread Yeah I know what you mean man, I've smoked at least a gram a day fro the last ~3 years. I also used to have a problem with psychedelics (probably 10ish times in a 3 month period) and I went through pretty heavy (2 times a week) dxm usage period for about 3 months I still have good grades (3.7 gap as a sophomore at a top 20 college) and my lifts/physique are still good (275 bench, 385 squat, 500 dead at 6' 190) but my personality/mental health is completely fucked aIm having depression, anxiety, mild psychosis like symptoms, but at this point I have no friends because I got thrown out of my frat for stupid shit (groped a girl and fought her boyfriend) I did while blackout drunk, on xanax, coke, and a weed brownie (probably didn't do shit but whatever) and man I don't know if I'm ever going to get better, I'm 10 days sober now and seeing a drug conselor but I may have fucked myself I mean gooddamn I had one night where I tripped acid, did amphetamines, xanax, oxy, a little dxm, drank a fuckton, and did dabs and smoked blunts throughout, I'm wondering if I can ever go back to being normal person or if I basically fucked myself for life

>lifts 275 bench, 385 squat, 500 dead
>I had one night where I tripped acid, did amphetamines, xanax, oxy, a little dxm, drank a fuckton, and did dabs and smoked blunts throughout, I'm wondering if I can ever go back to being normal person
Sorry mate, you're a sick cunt, I'm afraid it's terminal.

I dab too, but not before work or before the gym. I usually just dab when I get home around 6pm and then again before bed-- which I'm thinking of not doing anymore because I've read that Marijuana messes with your REM sleep.

Tfw 34-26-39

i smoke daily for one or two weeks before i feel the need to take a break, it's not hard because usually i hit the wild shit at a minimum of 3 times a day right after i wake up and that makes my lifestyle pretty messy so i just keep going untill i hit rock bottom and quit at first for a couple of days working my way up to weeks, from then i just smoke 1 or 2 joints every week wich makes it much more enjoyable untill i choose to go back to the daily marathon, i said choose, it's not a higher power that drives me i just really like blazing
also my other vices are masturbating going to the gym and maths

In order of how they occur in my day:

Tim Hortons
Tim Hortons
Whiskey
Tim Hortons
Whiskey
Weed
Beer
Beer
Beer
Beer
Porn
Self loathing

Same

Lol thanks man need solid words of encouragement, having a lot of trouble going to the gym not on the lifting hippie's speedball (fat bowl+amphetamines+preworkout) so lifts have been suffering in addition to this sobriety bullshit but I figure I have to do it at some point

i had a friend just like you, one night we dropped acid and he decided to drop more than we recomended him because he thought of himself as a macho man, he had a psychosis episode and we tried to talk him down but it was useless, he ended up crying lying on the floor, we didn't like him very much up to that day but after that we decided to not hang out with him anymore, it was his last chance to see himself in the mirror and he turned his head around, he ended up doing lots of blow after that because he was not a fan of discoverying his shitty personality through pshychedelics so the coke made those feelings go away, i havent seen him in 5 months and when i did i felt sorry for him, the good thing is that you at least are trying to do something about it, this guy will probably never learn untill it's too late, but i don't really thing it's too late for you man, keep it up and work hard

You can get out of this rut bro. Your life isn't over. You may have messed up your head a bit of maybe not but that doesn't define you. What you do defines you. Keep seeing the counselor, talk to people about that shit. Don't keep it shut up inside you. Have a nice night.

Thanks for the inspiring words bros, hope y'all kill your lifts next sesh means a lot that strangers would post that kind of support anonymously and not just meme out

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Snoop Dog is a waste of fucking skin. He should be sent to Gitmo, the treasonous bastard.

My vices are just being lazy

Just getting out of bed seems like a herculean struggle

My gains are suffering

Degenerates with shit parents ITT.

End your lives

lel bump

smoke weed actually once a month, trying to cut down on the snacking at work

t. work in film and they roll out a full spread at craft services, in addition to catered meals

average weed smoker makes 2 dollars an hour working on "FILM" aka some shitty 3 man crew backyard youtube video lmao

cancer

kot blini

Whats worse for your body: Cocaine or Steroids?

Cocaine

used to be one of those dab all day every day stoners up until a few weeks ago, the guy who would get the wax from the dispensary never got back to me which ended up being a blessing in disguise. i've had no social life for a year or so, friends and coworkers would ask me to hang out but i always had an excuse for them and just sat at home getting high alone. tried forcing myself to go out a few times while high, realized i was too anxious to even have light conversations with close friends, let alone trying to socialize with new people. felt like i was in a fog all day and eventually got to a point where i felt more "normal" after smoking. didn't really affect my workouts in my opinion, was a nice way to wind down after a hard work out. can't say i'll never smoke again but i definitely won't be letting it get back to that point again, i'm enjoying not being a zombie

Dose up with Kratom daily; helps with weight loss as well as easing my ankle pain.

LSD once every 2-3 months.

cocaine, you can abuse steroids longer than you can abuse cocaine before calling the paramedics

When I started smoking weed I quit drinking pop, eating candy and other junk. I started working out and living a more active lifestyle. I enjoyed nature more and would spend more time outdoors.

It really made me reflect on my life as a whole and want to change it. If I dont have weed for weeks I go back to my old not giving a shit self.

I have seen people who smoke it everyday and do nothing with their lives but in all fairness before they started smoking weed all they did was play video games anyway. So they have no right to complain. They were always lazy.

God youre a cringy ass lil girl

Weed is my only vice. Only retards say it has no negative effects. There's no way that it's healthy to keep putting yourself in an altered state of mind over and over again.

It's complicated, but I really like and hate weed at the same time.

>without weed
Mentally, I feel hollow and tense at the same time without it. It's weird to describe. Sometimes I feel like I can't form a thought to save my life. Especially around people. I just say things for the sake of saying something. I've been going through the motions with regards to social interactions for almost a year now. I live with my parents too and they haven't said anything about it so I guess it's not noticeable, but it must be. Also I don't have any feelings towards what I'm doing. Life just feels empty and meaningless. I dropped out of college, got a job programming making good $$$, got fired, going back to college again and I don't feel any type of way about any of that. Most days I don't even think about it. Like it never happened. I think it's depesonalization/derealization from the weed but I haven't stopped smoking for long enough to be sure.

>with weed
Very thoughtful and more creative. Constantly thinking about my future and planning things out, although the appeal goes away when I'm not high. I make a lot of stupid decisions too. Like when I'm not high, but I want to get high I pretty much drop everything and think about how I can get high asap. Once I had a thought on the way to work so I just emailed in sick and got off the train and went for a smoke. Didn't feel any guilt or remorse or anything about it (but looking back I was definitely a moron for that). Drive high all the time too which is a potential DUI waiting to happen.

Despite all these negatives about weed, I still smoke it because I feel like it sorts my head out. It's so relaxing to go in the woods, sit on a log, roll a blunt and just sit there smoking for an hour.
I'm trying to quit tho but we'll see.

Thanks 4 reading my blog

Daily smoker here for the past 3-4 years. Used to go through a half every 3 weeks, now it's 6 weeks since I started full time.

No noticeable change in my personality. I'm far more confident and outgoing than I used to be but that's chalked up to weight loss and muscle gain.

Only big negatives i've noticed are: My brain is sometimes slightly hazier than it used to be, and the decreased lung capacity might be hurting my lifts.

wew no opiate fiends lite weight babies

Shh

>all the degenerate potheads ITT

Smh

wrong

Fapping
Getting angry
Procrastination (really fucking bad, I replaced fear of failure, my old motivator with the fear of overcoming challenges in work).

Dabs aren't good for your energy and your mental process. They are a much different high than just bud. Try to smoke bud and get slowly off it.

Spliff with lavender or something. Don't try to spliff with tobacco cause then it'll just be another vice dude

my addictions are:
fapping (I'm down to 3 times a week, not sure if i'm hurting testosterone levels and my gains)
caffeine
sugar (I'm slowly cutting it out of my diet)
Lifting weights
procrastinating (I'm working on it senpai)
guns (so comfy of a hobby, I don't want to give it up but qts won't approve)

quit gaming, marijuana, cigs, drinking, and unhealthy food.

Literally me. Quit while you're ahead OP not worth fucking up your health. Anyway you slice it inhaling smoke is harmful.

Study, keep "training" you brain, weed doesn't kill neurons, but if you are lazy it can create bad habits, it's all about what you do while being high, don't just munch and watch Netflix, try and do stuff

Viva la México!! 15 bucks for an ounce of good stuff!!

It does, don't smoke before sleeping, whenever I smoke before sleeping I never dream. If I don't , I always dream. Try working out high, just don't get destroyed

I drink 3 of these fuckers every day.

>3 times a week
you gotta pump those number up, those are rookie numbers, i personally fap at least twice a day (this is true)

Its not backed by hard science but its rumored s.oking bud increases your metabolism which is why you get the minchies if you can manage not to eat it can help...or if you need to eat more calories then yoyr alitite allows this is a good way to sneak in a couple extra calories

Smoking weed and doing IF is the worst bros

i never smoke during the day, but i smoke at night usually around 12 before bed and then an hour later i am hungry as fuck but cant eat because fasting

Smoked every day for a little over a year, just quit completely a few weeks ago because I'm starting to apply to new jobs. I had formed some bad habits with it. Stayed up late smoking most nights. Didn't sleep nearly as much as I should have for a long time which fucked my recovery, and I would snack while I stayed up high so it hindered weight loss a lot. Definitely not gonna quit forever, once I get into a new job I'll start back up again if they don't test but I'm gonna be smarter about it.

Time off has been difficult because I'm like 90% sure I have undiagnosed ADHD and it make me feel more normal so it's been a bit difficult not to get that mental levity but I need to get actual ADHD meds for that anyway.

Also trying to ween myself off my ridiculous caffeine dependance. Hate feeling the need for a monster every morning and it still not really doing much.

Caffeine
Fapping
Shitposting

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Habitual dabbing is a red flag. Not saying you will but I've known plenty that go on to pills or become tweakers.

Nothing huge, spend too much time on Veeky Forums and videogames and i binge caffeine once or twice a week. But i dont drink or smoke, im a med student with a house and a wife. I've only ever slept with her, her the same with me. I workout and do lots of lifting and cardio.

So i consider myself pretty controlled.

Daily smoker for 7 years here and I'll say smoking weed has helped me a lot. Saved me from depression, helped me change my mindset for the better and just not care about trivial things as much. I'll slow down when I need to and feel it's necessary but I won't let any social pressures dictate my decision.

>2-4 cups of coffee a day
>Veeky Forums
>Waffle House after I go climbing

Every day after morning practice I go get a DD mocha coffee and after evening practice I get a steak n shake shake

If you really think taking psychoactive substances everyday for years won't lead to some change in your personality you are a moron

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In regards to your question about smoking, I was a regular smoker for about a year. Not daily, but minimum 3 days a week, 4-5 was average, wasn't too uncommon for me to smoke 7 days a week. I've never felt very insecure high, I kinda have a natural tendency to keep my cool in public too. Went out to eat high pretty often (wasn't a common occurrence for me to eat out so if I did I almost always did it stoned to enhance the experience), went to the movies high, amusement parks, class, the gym. Pretty much anywhere with a positive stimulus I wanted to make stronger. I just kind of feel slow when I smoke, not less outgoing. If anything like that it might be that I'm more likely to spend more time talking to one person at a party than moving around like I would if I weren't high. Not less outgoing or anything, I just found myself getting into deeper conversations high. Not like "deep" as in personal, just more interesting and lengthy. I never noticed it hurting my gain in the gym, in fact it seemed to me I managed to finish out more reps high than sober. The burn and soreness was a bit stronger, but I like that part of lifting too. Maybe it was just in my head but I feel like when I lift high I get just a few more reps in. Like if I were sober I would fail my last rep of the set but high I barely get it, for example. The problem was, it wasn't really working anymore. I had too much of a tolerance to really notice it. I was able to consume a gram through a vaporizer (Arizer Extreme Q, highly recommend) and just be kinda buzzed. I felt like I used to feel after one hit. So I took a break for a few months, and its much better now. Not quite the same as when I started smoking but I get much higher. I would definitely recommend any regular smoker who is noticing their tolerance is getting too strong to take a break for about 60-75 days and when you pick it back up, don't ever do it more than once a week. The quality of high you get is worth the lack of quantity.

Sorry for the huge, unbroken wall of text.
>What is your vice?
Procrastination. I smoked regularly for over a year, decided one day to kill my tolerance and quit on the spot with almost no difficulty at all. I consume alcohol once in a while and I thoroughly enjoy LSD every 5-10 weeks. I watch some Netflix, I play some video games, I browse the internet, I have a pool table in my house. There isn't one particular thing that draws my attention more than another, I just find ways to distract myself until I look at the time and realize I just put myself in a situation where I am going to have to work very hard to avoid any consequences. Shit, I'm procrastinating right now, I have a chemistry exam tomorrow at 6pm and I work in an hour so I really only have like 9 hours until the exam after you factor in work and sleep, but I'm on my computer instead of studying.

interesting. See when i go to parties high i cant socialize at all. When I get high i find socializing ruins my high. Especially when you are at a party and there is always that person "Look at user hes so high!!!!" or "Dude your chinese as fuck you look blown!!!" ... these comments and the social stigma of stoners are what makes me hate being high in public. I hate how its so much more of an accepted norm to be a drunk, but smoking daily labels you as a burnout to most people. I genuinely like smoking because it enhances music for me (trance + a good high = bliss) and allows me to see things from an entirely introspective point of view. I smoke at the end of the day and recall things that i previously did throughout the day, situations i could have handled better and ways i could have acted differently. Seriously though, the way people draw attention to you when you are high though ruins social smoking for me, unless of course its with others who are high.

former fatty here who can still eat like a fat ass. literally I could eat an entire sleeve of chips a hoy with milk as a snack.

pls elaborate

OP I can completely relate to what your talking about, I hardly was able to hold an intelligent conversation, I kept stumbling over my words and losing concentration.

people actually would just assume I was stoned out my box the previous night, and it was embarassing,

I would chose to remain quiet in debates and I just chose the easy way of "fuck it I dont care" where as really I did.

now my gains have improved and im so much more confident now that I have stopped smoking so much, I only smoke maybe once or twice a month if I am at a friends house.

Glad to hear it made someone else insecure and less outgoing bruh makes me feel better. Its worth it cut it out you will feel so much better in a few weeks, Helps getting up out of bed aswell.

I get where you're coming from, but to me being stoned is a good thing. Not to say you should always be high, but I only get high when it suits my schedule, so every time I get high, it is a good thing. That being said, if anyone comes up to me like "damn dude you're fucking fried" I don't get self conscious or something, because I feel good about it and how they feel about it is none of my business. I'm kinda a stoic so maybe that plays into it, but I'm generally not a very insecure person. Not to say I am overflowing with confidence either, I'm just exceptionally comfortable in my own skin. Doesn't mean I think I'm the shit, I just accept who and what I am, good and bad. I know I'm not a burnout, in fact if we are talking a college frat party odds are I'm one of the smartest people in the building and I almost certainly have my shit together more than most if not all. I don't go around jerking myself off telling people about my grades or my portfolio or something, all that matters is that I know it. I like socializing and I like smoking. Naturally I like smoking in social settings. Now ideally everyone is smoking, but if I'm the only one that isn't gonna stop me. At the same time, just because the people I'm hanging out are smoking doesn't mean I'm going to join them. You just have to accept the fact that you are basically in complete control of your own feelings, and pretty much nothing else. Or just get better at maintaining when you are high until people can't tell, though I would recommend the former because it will help you in more situations than being comfortable being high in public.

wasting my life on the internet while my friends go out every other night and don't even invite me anymore. Lifting is all there is left, and being a poor natty manlet doesn't help either.