What is happening to masculinity? Why is being a female suddenly better than being a male and everything that once was considered masculine is dethroned by beta cucks?
Will every bit of masculinity fade away and replaced with emotions and anal sex with men?
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Just be a man and people will respect it. Don't go seeking internet validation or looking at media brain washing.
>Just be a man and people will respect it.
this. women will want to fuck you, men will want to be you
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that s the opinion of a really small vocal group
ignore it
no, it's everywhere. they don't outright say it but the idea is incredibly pervasive in western society
I wonder ((((((((what)))))))) is going on....
Well, what makes a man masculine? Apart from his dick, in nature he attacks, he kills, he must provide or die, after the neolitic and with bigger societies, bigger food stocks and so on, those traits arent necessary anymore, so of course men are not as manly as they should be, apart from that fact, you see faggots everywhere because of propaganda, if you want to stay manly just
>Stay were you live, do a lot of exercise, dont masturbate as much, learn to cook, to shoot
>Go live to serbia or some balkan country
>enter the army
>Move to the countryside
It's a way for losers and betas to try and fit into the social "norm" and status quo. Similar how it's an unpopular opinion to say fuck taking in refugees and fuck Muslims but any self respecting man with testosterone in his body knows it's his job to protect his way of life, family, heritage, and future above hurting some leftist pussy feelings.
Guys like these put women on the pedestal, don't have a spine, don't score with women and don't dominate any women or social situation. Women respond to confidence and a guy who believe in his own morals and ideas, I speak my mind on any subject in any social group and I know it's respected.
I'm also 20 so I know exactly what you're talking about, it does anger me and piss me off but remember when supply is down the demand goes up. Dominant strong men are in decline so the demand will go up. I've scored with unbelievably sexy women, dated them, fucked them, fucked their friends, you name it, they always respect me and submit. I'm even 5'9 so take advantage of it and capitalize on it, you don't need to be born a total chad to be successful and love life.
>Why is being a female suddenly better than being a male
Litterally since the beginning of time, you cuck
Females have always had and will always have more value than men
That being sad you can still be a normal fucking man, not some beta cuck and you will be able to live a life of enjoyment
>, it does anger me and piss me off but remember when supply is down the demand goes up.
Im 29 and im not sure i can agree, demand for men seems to be very low along with supply. There are plenty of cucks but far too many men too in comparison with demand
Could vary depending on where you live i guess
I think the same.
We must take hormones to become uber chads. none of this numale bullshit that society is peadlig today.
>Females have always had and will always have more value than men
kek in the past women were often raped and no consequence for men
lewd women were stoned to death
>What is happening to masculinity?
Nothing. As long as testicles exist, males will attain features we consider masculine. Men dressing in ways that are related to the ways women dress has been going on since the dawn of time.
The guy in your pic may look like a tool, but he wants to wear high heels, and does so, means he has the balls to wear high heels. I think it's retarded, but no need to project your insecurities onto others.
>Why is being a female suddenly better than being a male
Is it? or do you just care what the TV people say too much?
>everything that once was considered masculine is dethroned
What is considered masculine and feminine is 95% cultural. they change all the time. We're in a period of rapid change that humanity has never dealt with before due to the internet. Get over it. being a man is doing whatever the fuck you want. If that's getting big as fuck, get fucking big. Giving a shit what other men do is, and will always be, feminine.
>Will every bit of masculinity fade away and replaced with emotions
Here you are, crying over non-issues. So it seems like, yes.
>demand for men seems to be very low along with supply
well shit maybe we should fuck traps like misfits
I love how memes are made to be history.
Women were an incredibly important resource. They were protected so fiercely, they basically became prisoners of their own homes and villages. One man can impregnate hundreds of women if all men died in war, and the the family/tribe/city-state/empire would be able to recover. If most women were killed/taken by rivals/were constantly raped with no one stopping it, the family/tribe/city-state/empire would collapse.
All of society's norms and laws and taboos were built around protecting women. Stop being fucking retarded.
Sure. Let's just let the leftists continue this psyop just like we did with feminism, trans bullshit, and faggotry. It totally won't continue to further push Western culture into degeneracy.
Kys.
kek
This guy gets it.
even now my statements are true look at middle east pretty big place where women have no value
wtf are you gonna do about it? Cry online? There is nothing you can do about it because Liberty is the most important ideal in the world, and it's the foundation of America, who is in charge of the rest of the world.
A motherfucker wants to wear a dress, there is nothing you can do about it. Trump can't, and won't, stop it. Get over it. Fix your own life. And it needs to be fixed if you give a shit about what other men wear, and you can't talk in anything but memes.
Kek, women were often guarded by men and seen as valuable just because they can bear children
Men were always seen as rivals and only there to be eliminated if we go back far enough
This doesnt mean the women enjoyed this treatment but they are more valuable than men, to rebuild a population you only need one man but many women
This generation in the middle east has more women in higher education than ever before.
The middle east has these issues with women because of war, and war removes all semblance of law, social structure, stability, and protections.
With the invention of birth control, and the huge population growth, the value of women as the foundation of all society is fading. The middle east in in flux as well, and the wars/bombings will turn any society into exactly what the middle east is as well.
The way women are treated in hte middle east is actually relatively new (a bit less than 200 years).
You kill yourself, pussy ass bitch. I said to ignore the media and start acting like a man. Post town and I'll beat your faggot ass right now pussy
>Listening to beta cucks and women
>Ever
I mean granted, it's not so easy when they dominate everything. But like everything else, they're all talk, and no action. Just live your life, kick ass, get big, fuck women, and laugh at these numale cucks at their near-daily re-definitions of "masculinity". If they spent as much time complaining as they did hitting the weight, maybe they wouldn't be such faggots.
But hey, I'm not complaining about those men taking themselves out of the competition, more for me.
>Will every bit of masculinity fade away and replaced with emotions and anal sex with men?
No, any student of history will tell you masculinity and strength always win out. Anyone who says otherwise has a bizarre, twisted, and moronic view of world history.
>the value of women as the foundation of all society is fading.
Excuse me, what?
Women today have a higher value than ever before, todays society is gynocentric and its very hard to make it as a man
Just try dating, its a hell hole unless you live in a decent place
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NEGATIVE TRAITS
>AGRESSIVE
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>NON-EMOTIONAL
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>GENTLE
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>CARING
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>masculinity fade away and replaced with emotions and anal sex with men
well good more cucks that I can beat up and get that fresh test pumping
No, the laws and norms and taboos were built around *controlling* women. Protecting them was just a side effect. In many parts of the world today and in almost all of it 50 years ago, it was perfectly legal for a man to rape and beat his wife. That's not protecting, you fucking imbecilic virgin.
>What is happening to masculinity?
Nothing. There's just more weak men around.
spousal rape is a meme
It's becoming a real problem actually, I don't even act super masculine or anything but people complain all the time that I'm acting and trying to be super manly.
I have a beard cause I don't like shaving everyday, I lift heavy shit cause it's fun.
>more weak men around
makes sense alphas die in war while betas hide and reproduce after that
>But hey, I'm not complaining about those men taking themselves out of the competition, more for me.
>those men taking themselves out of the competition
lmao, those men have had sex and are often in stable relationships, unlike 99% of Veeky Forums
I love how people who get none and spend all their time on Veeky Forums sperg out at "betas" and "numales" and don't realise they're the ones actually socialising, meeting women and fucking them
>America, who is in charge of the rest of the world.
You never have been and you never will be, son.
i don't have reaction pics so this is for you
Be happy you're not a brainwashed queer weakling. Makes it easier to rise above
Controlling them is a side effect of the evolutionary imperative that demands their protection
Learn evolutionary psychology you stupid fuck
Modern Islam is pretty backwards in by medieval standards, however unconsensual sex (rape) is not the same as leaving the woman for dead. The woman's survival is crucial. Not from a moral standpoint, but an evolutionary standpoint
Finally, someone with more sense
women for some reason seem to get all hot and bothered by feminine men, i was told "lift and you will be more attractive" and sure i feel better but girls are in 99% of cases with a bf would could easily double as her gf instead
The only girl i ever met who wanted a strong dude and actually liked muscles and being tossed around was a lesbian -.-
cute as fuck but completly crazy
>Learn evolutionary psychology you stupid fuck
>learn a bunch of post-hoc made-up bullshit unfalsifiable theories used to justify regressive sexist values
Learn some actual history, you TRPing sperglord.
>Will every bit of masculinity fade away and replaced with emotions and anal sex with men?
I don't know. The Spartans and Greeks seemed to handle the two together just fine.
Where do you all get these extreme views
90% of the women I've seen are basic bitches with average looking men because 90% of people are average
you wierdos
>war
Nah. Hasn't been a war in the Euro-Anglo sphere in ages. It's just more acceptable for men to be weak, so they avoid the trouble of getting strong.
Good for me. That's less competition.
How do I get a spouse like this?
>Where do you all get these extreme views
From living i guess
May be an exaduration but after my last breakup three years ago this summer ive met a total of 4 single chicks, i dated all of em so my extreme views on women mostly comes from there
Girls where i live love to monkey branch so they are rarely single
It's not "feminine men." It's "men who are able to hold a conversation, have interests that aren't solely discussed on Veeky Forums, and have a modicum of dress sense/hygiene."
It's really not much, but it's more than most people here have got.
If I told you the truth, you'd only tell me to go back to my containment board.
Evolutionary psychology is the ONLY reason for human behaviour.
It takes a special kind of retard to think history takes precedence our nature. History is the data you use reverse engineer this shit
>post-hoc
kill yourself
in my country war was 20 years ago and my dad is that cuck vegan who went to china when war started
if I didn t have alpha friends I would end up like him
What if i told you i have all those traits but still have only dated four girls in a three year span?
Its not just this where i live mate, there are next to no single girls avaliable and those who stand out to me are those with faggot bfs
For fuck sake, one girl popped up on my facebook feed because she was proud of her bf for crying to some series they were watching
shit like this happens regularly
Go on
who told you that being a femine man is having interests and not smell like shit?
This is not what this is about lel
>dat anterior pelvic tilt
+ heels
>Autism the post
Underage autists need to leave. Also this thread isn't fitness related.
America isn't a person, it's a culture, and yes it is the predominant one.
Every modern media uses American standards as a metric.
Whether it's advertisement, entertainment, fashion, city engineering and logistics, everybody wants to compare themselves to America.
oh god please tell me this is real
Let the idiots do what they want. 90% og women don't want a beta faggot like that anyways. It's literally only autists and feminists who care about that shit.
I'm in a strange situation. I understand how this sounds like I'm playing into the anti-male narrative but my personal role model is a woman.
She is why I uncucked myself and embraced the masculinity that our nu-culture demonizes.
She literally saved my life more than once and then pulled me out of utter ruination. I've never had someone care enough about me to tell me I wasn't trying hard enough. To tell me I wasn't yet good enough. To expect more from me.
She is a paragon of everything a man should be and I have honestly never known a stronger, more determined, more iron willed person with half the stoic bravery I've seen in her. I have never and likely will ever have the level of respect for anyone that I have for her. She is the stuff of legend. She is what inspired me to be man. She is my Boss.
/thread.
that's because at 29 you should already have a house, several cars, a couple of kids
at least if you believe in this alpha male picture you spout even yourself
of course if you miss the train, you should be fucked. what is the problem here?
besides, the % chance for a "marriage" to work if you meet someone in your late 20s is infinitesimal. (success rate drops proportionally to how many partners/attempts you, or your girl previously made)
Nobody is anti-masculinity they're just anti-rape and murder. Don't rape or kill anyone and you can be as eye wateringly masculine as you please.
Yeah, that's called being a normal fucking human being who's able to express emotions.
You're only shooting yourself in the foot if you think there's something wrong with that.
>American standards as a metric
Lul
Bull fucking shit.
(((They))) want a society of easy to manage docile little cucks not proud determined individualist men.
That's not how supply and demand works in our reptile brain. You can get semen all day every day but pregnancy lasts for 9 months.
Multiple women are willing to share one strong man rather than fuck a weak man.
So unless you have a house, several cars and a couple of kids at 29 youre not alpha?
topkek mate
user this is true and we both know it but the more you spout pol memes like the (()) the less people are going to take you seriously, take the truth seriously. Don't even call the elites jews call them the elites. Normies don't like racism and outside of /pol/ and /r9k/ almost everyones a normie.
But sure if you want the elites to get what they want keep spouting memes
basically, yes
I mean, typically if you weren't a bar inlet you get your PhD at ~23 yo
then you have at least 5 years to fuck around doing whatever the fuck, while setting yourself up with a family for your late 20s
if you couldn't manage this, obviously you are a beta
nobody needs more then 5 years+college+uni+postgrad to fuck around
>Multiple women are willing to share one strong man rather than fuck a weak man.
Ah, that explains why women seek out feminine men and keep them as their bf
No wait, no it doesnt
And they get pussy once a month.
>Serbia
How about no? We have enough faggots here as it is, we don't need any turbo manlet foreigners
>nobody needs more then 5 years+college+uni+postgrad to fuck around
I had a relationship and started a business when in my young 20s, didnt start uni until i was 26 and graduating at 29.
But youre right, who am i to question some user on a hungarian waffle cooking forum on the definition of alpha
Also i dont recall describing myself as alpha, im just not a feminine man and my orignial statement was in response to someone saying demand goes up for men as supply of them is down.
>women seek out feminine men and keep them as their bf
Do you go out often?
Yeah I agree and in public I don't directly point any fingers at certain groups but like you said we all know its true.
so your life basically didn't have any kind of direction for a long ass time. M8, obviously you won't be high in demand, with a bachelors at 29 fucking years old
compare yourself to the top end of "manly men" of your age group.. 160k$+ per year, own real estate, sportscars, dangerous hobbies like paragliding, etc
do you think they feel like they are not in high demand?
>It totally won't continue to further push Western culture into degeneracy.
>implying it can be saved at this point
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But she was a traitor to her country.
It's extremely easy to date if you aren't someone who's focused on silly gender issues. Women only have power in dating when they're young. Literally the moment I turned 25 the tables turned drastically. Even ugly men over 30 can pull in pussy with little effort if they're clean and have any type of career, even a low paying one they claim to be passionate about.
Women have more wealth, and lost social influence in everything except for consumerism. You're confusing the fact that women love to spend money with women having power. Everyone advertises to women because money is something new to women and they haven't learned how to use it responsibly yet.
Control women to control the fate of your people. yes. You switching words out doesn't mean I'm any less correct. Nice use of memes and insults because you don't understand history and think stupid shit like legality = social issues.
>Says a European using an American invention, speaking the language America made dominant, as your culture was replaced with American culture 60 years ago.
>He does not follow virtue ethics
that's stupid. The proud determined "individualist" men are who make up the soldiers they throw to the slaughter, who proudly die for oil and weapon sales and Israel and Saudi Arabia with a determined look on their face.
>you don't need to be born a total chad to be successful and love life.
The post i replied to and reacted to has this in it
>you don't need to be born a total chad to be successful and love life.
Obviously me and him (i guess it was him, cant know since user) were discussing more normal occurance of dudes in the dating market and the topic was more manly men vs feminine men
You seem to think its normal for a guy to be top 5% of all guys, if he aint then there is something wrong with him and im not sure if youre delusional or just spent too much time on TRP/PUA/sluthate or whatever thinking women only see/notice the top notch dudes
I expect nothing from Veeky Forums and still im disapointed, good work man
Lol what kind of fucking standards are these? You have huge delusions for what people need to be at age 29 but I highly doubt you are anywhere near the age range you only have extremist idealistic views that do not make any sense at all. You are forgetting that everyone is different and it does not matter how long it takes as long as you get there is what is most important.
Nothing wrong with anal sex with men. That's pretty manly.
Don't worry, these numales are just failures and trying to drag everyone else down to their level. Just be yourself, people will respect that.
>It's extremely easy to date if you aren't someone who's focused on silly gender issues
You know what, im tired of having negative thoughts and my thoughts might be delusional as well
At the end of the day having a negative mind set isnt helping me in the slightest so thanks
well, if you consider yourself top 5% those are the criteria you have to meet
believing that you are a a manly man, does at least imply that you believe have good genetics, since it is not something that is possible to be for some ugly fatfuck
ugly and manly does not compute
fat and manly does not compute (unless you are top 1% strength)
dumb and manly does not compute, etc
I have no idea what any of your strange abbreviations mean
obviously don't pay any attention to what I wrote if you are fine with being an average dude dating average girls
>that 1000 yard stare
Most likely MGTOW and Red Pill. It's the narrative of treat everyone like an asshole and females love you and if you do not you will always be the door. But it's silly to think that all females are the same due to some stupid ones.
nice coping strategy, m8
my point is you can't go around whining about how the nice girls won't date you if you are not a catch in any way, shape, or form
sure you could theoretically "make it" later in life... but lets face it, that can never compare to having lived all your life with a beautiful wife + kids
Spoken like a true loser cuck
>B-b-but everyone has their own way in life ;___;
user pls don't be a kek
T. Different person
A load of rubbish. Girls are still attracted to masculine men, always have and always will be. Can't change nature.
Yeah my Boss doesn't have such a complicated relationship with her country, but the Joy is the closest approximation I've seen to such a person. My boss dutifully served her country with pride and distinction.
It's not about the nice girls shit it's about unrealistic expectations. To expect every man to be age 29 to have 7 cars a mansion that is just not possible in the real world.
>well, if you consider yourself top 5% those are the criteria you have to meet
Well i dont, frankly i strive to improve myself and make my own life into one im happy living
I wasnt the one who claimed to be top 5%, you were the one who brought it up.
You seem to have very strange ideals friend, i have no idea if youre just young and idealistic thinking life is gonna be supreme in the future or youve been born into wealth thinking this is the norm
I hope you dont face adversity but maybe it would be good for you to see that life has a strange way of working things out
>It's a way for losers and betas to try and fit into the social "norm" and status quo.
This. It's the same as fat acceptance.
I don't have to grow a pair of balls, if I can just redefine masculinity to enjoying my gf's strap on, and enjoying watching her get fucked by chad.
>I hate everything because my life sucks and I need to be a dick to prove my self worth to strangers on the internet.
T.Red pill cuckservative
Funny how they have to act tough on the internet to boost their self esteem. They should not hold anyone to their standards if they can not achieve it themselves.
those ideals are not strange at all for somebody who is smart/attractive
keep in mind there are many very successful people on Veeky Forums, in terms of making money. some of them will also have been blessed with good genetics, and should thus most definitely aim for the top
anything else would be quite frankly, idiotic
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