Completely from a "who would win in a fight" standpoint, at what point does getting bigger actually yield negative returns? Obviously it depends on a height/weight ratio, so just post examples of people you think are at the very pinnacle of "if they get any bigger, their lack of mobility will hinder them". We know strongfats get shit on in real fights, and hulking behemoths like Lesnar also get shit on. So, in a different phrasing we are also asking "who, if matched against any person in history, would win in single unarmed combat?"
I'm guessing pic related? he trashed klitschko, is 6'9, and is undefeated.
>lack of mobility You can train mobility too, you know.
Also, who would win in a fight is always skilled guy >>>>>>>>>>>>> big guy >>> small guy
Owen Torres
Lesnar does not really get shit on. There have probably been
Daniel Adams
Despite what people think bigger doesn't mean stronger. Thats the real deal breaker. Why you get giant guys getting their asses kicked by average sized guys.
Leo Moore
to be fair, we in modernity have tons of advantages over our ancestors when it comes to physical achievement. Huge population to select from, better food and training, theory and analysis, steroids...Olympic records by themselves are conclusive proof of this.
Matthew Sullivan
Yeah 100% agree, nonetheless saying Lesnar gets shit on because he is too big is a bit if a stretch.
If both people are well trained fighters the bigger one is probably going to win, and if they don't it is almost always because the smaller guy is just much better, not because they are smaller.
Blake Howard
That's a boxer. Lesnar would beat Fury in a real fight. He'd take him down and punch his head in
Gabriel Diaz
>at what point does getting bigger actually yield negative returns?
When you go past your natty limit. Your body is efficient like that.
Brody Perez
lesnar just lacked technique, he was crazy fast for his size
too many variables ye goof
Lucas Bailey
Lol wat.
Why would any fighter take steroids if this was the case?
Connor Martin
endurance
Caleb Morales
Training and dexterity triumph over strength in a fight any day.
Think of a car coming straight at you if you meet it head on you're fucked, but if you jump out of the way it will literally spin circles trying to reach you.
The average Joe can knock almost anyone out with a straight punch to the head, provided he knows and practiced how to deliver a punch with maximum force.
The sweet point is when you're able to evade and redirect your opponents hits, while still being able to take his punches and kicks and counter them strength wise.
If you're 5'9 king of manlets and are up against a 7'0 lanklet, as long as you can dance around him and evade him you can cripple him with minimal force by going for his instep, shins, knees, balls, kidneys, after he's down you can kill him with just a knee to the head or a kick to the spine or back of the neck.
Nolan Green
Guys who are 6'5''+ generally aren't as good in an actual fight because they sacrifice wrestling balance and agility for striking length, prime fighter size is somewhere between 6'1''-6'5'' and 230-260lbs. Issues of cardio, center of gravity, speed, etc become significant when the guy's huge.
Michael Morris
Not true at all.
Our modern lifestyle puts very little development pressure on young teens, which sets you up for the rest of your life.
For example trireme crews in ancient greece could sustain speeds top olympians cant match, even if we take the most conservative records with a grain of salt.
They may have been a bit shorter, but ancient peoples were a lot better conditioned aerobically and a lot stronger too.
Consider even a top child prodigy is only doing a couple of hours training a day at most. If they wefe born 2000 years ago, most would be putting in 10 hour days from the time they we 10 years old.
Nutrition is a moot point. The amount of food they needed to eat to go about day to day life ment that all micro nutrients were taken care of, just from the shear volume of food.
Luke Phillips
Different PEDs do different things, user.
Steroids don't just give extra mass, they also make it easier to attain said mass, and they help you recover faster (both in terms of workload and injuries).
Hudson Jackson
Seconding this.
Back in the day you just sat there, only activities you could engage in were work, eating, fucking and the occasional fighting.
It'd make sense to want to be in the best shape you could possibly be, to compete with others, be able to fight, and attract the best of the females available.
Now people can't even sacrifice one hour a day to keep in shape, and to be frank unless you're actually a professional athlete devoting more time to working out would take away from your social, academic life and career.
But who is to say he went past his natty limit, even if he did take steroids to get where he was?
Maybe he could've been bigger still, he just took the fastest route to get there.
Anthony Lewis
just look at him. That size and leanness is beyond what is possible naturally, and prior to the start of his roiding he certainly wasnt at the top of his sport.
Joshua Rivera
Olympias was reconstructed from drawings and paintings and so we cannot be sure of its accuracy, and ancient accounts are not reliable. Pic related is an example, and there are hundreds of others. Shit, occasionally you still get some chucklefuck around here who believes the ridiculous Bruce Lee claims, like how he was able to kick a 300 lb. heavy bag and send it flying up to the ceiling, or that he could hold a 125 lb. barbell at arms length for several seconds at a bodyweight of 140 lbs.
Joseph Gray
> This guy that can only box would beat anyone in history
Every light heavyweight and heavyweight in the UFC would destroy this guy without breaking a sweat. Fact.
Xavier Barnes
for all we know he could have lifted it one inch off the ground
Parker Ramirez
just no. WR deadlift is what, 500kg geared and suited and using a bar with perfect weight distribution under controlled settings, but somehow an ancient greek manlet was able to lift an object very nearly as heavy, but with the lack of modern equipment and at severe mechanical disadvantage? shit doesn't work that way
Charles Evans
I remember Krokop vs Bob Sapp in the days of K1. Sapp is probably the too big line, once you are that you lose any other advantage than size, and it won't be enough facing an also objectively big man which is still small enough to move around fast.
Cooper Taylor
Overseen also just did a shit ton of cardio. Let his fight endurance match his overly muscled body.
