/Fraud/ thread - high test edition

Pip can be just a little soreness or it can be damn near debilitating, lots of variables, quality of gear, injection technique, some people do better than others with certain solutions like ba etc. I've only had bad pip twice and for me even the bad ones were not that bad, my buddy gets so fucked up depending on the carrier oil used, swelling, pain etc, he had a bad quad pin that put him of work a week before he figured out it was a carrier oil issue and switched gears

What does one do if PIP is getting to painfull?
I work in an office, since i will definitly start pinning my glutes i will most likely not be able to sit IF PIP happens and is as worst as on your buddy for example...

Do i just tell the doctor that i injected steroids and that he needs to fix my shit?

Im not concerned to openly talk about that with my doctor, just wondering if its even necessary do visit the doc.

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I love the person that created this image.
Full-homo.

only because you're handsome and swole so it's not too creepy. I am now even more of a deviant than I was before I got Veeky Forums but women are more likely to give in to my depraved ideas because I'm good-looking (implying).

No just tough it out for a few days, unless you think you are getting an infection, then probably go tell your doc. If you work in an office you will be able to get though the worst pip without losing out on work

speaking of fetishes, this isn't really a fetish, actually pretty natural desu... It is spitting on ur dick. Or having a girl do it. Like as lube. I love the scent. It makes me a savage.

dont tell your doctor shit

Is 24 weeks blast too long if I want lean growth and then shred up last 6 weeks

Because of insurance reasons or why exactly?
How could you tell him in "legal" words that something is wrong, or will he find out himself whats the case without telling him you put a needle in your ass?

Allright, thanks for the input!

One more thing: everywhere is writting to rotate injection sides because of scar tissue build up, is this allready neccassary on a 16 week Test E cycle? (injecting every 3 days)

Im asking because i will start with the glutes since its the easiest part.. can i rotate between my two glutes or do i need to involve quads/delts too?

>dont tell your doctor shit
t. murrican

I mean, don't just treat him like a bro you can pour your heart out for but most are pretty chill if you're just about minimizing health risks and block their whole moral approach if they have any from the get go. That in mind, going to the doc for a bit of pip is absolute faggotry.

How long is my piece of string. Tell us what you're blasting, m8. Generally anything past 20 weeks is a bit overkill but if you're not running yolo amounts of shit you may. Done 30 weeks with some compounds myself but it kinda fucked me up lel

rotate both glutes and two other sites of your choice. some people scar super fast and you don't want to find out if you do.

How does one know he build up scar tissue?

4 sites for e3d injections is overkill as fuck

>How could you tell him in "legal" words that something is wrong
Pay his entire salary.

Dont tell you're doctor. They will write that you are either using steroids or inject able drugs. Insurance could be a bitch.

harder to slide the needle in, with lots of it plunger will struggle to go down, also the area will be more injury prone and less sensitive to touch over time. not an issue for anybody not pinning like three times a week for 5 years though, I'm just half-shitposting lel

speak for yourself. I mean, normally it is, but I for example shoot quite a sizable amount of oil, couldn't really jam it all into two sites without hurting myself in the long run. but as I said above this shouldn't be much of an issue for most people.

Are you using a test base? That could fix the libido

Yes, literally all of them. You use a test base because they stop natural test production and almost all of them cant substitute for having testosterone in your body.

I only get pip in delts with test. Otherwise test is virtually pip free for me. Pip daily from tren ace, but pip knots usually disappear by day 2 so i just rotate the tren. If you direct your showerhead while showering onto the muscle having pip and just let the water run for a while ,warm to hot water, usually helps get rid of pip faster. Not scalding hot water

>tfw 5 months worth of tren land today
Ayy

Now if only my other source would ship my EQ already instead of emailing me polite small talk all would be well

Thanks.
Yes i read that cold water shouldnt be used because that stops be bodys ability to transport the crystals...

Is one usually able to lift of he has PIP (like average PIP not hardcore PIP).

For example could i get a legday done when i have PIP in my glutes or is it reccomended to wait till PIP is gone?

dude same. mine hasnt actually told me if its shipped, or what service its coming in. I honestly dont give one fuck as long as it goes undetected, but still.

You can and should soldier through it most of the time, yeah. There IS crippling pip that stops you from it, but with normal amounts as you said, a bit of stretching and enough warmup should do the trick.

Allright thanks, everything answered.
Ready to board the gains train

didn't your source just start a 1-4weeks hiatus/vacation?

tbol 1-6 50mg
LGD 10 mg 12 weeks
weeks 1-6 Test e 750 weeks 7-22 300
weeks 1-18 eq 1000
gw 20 mg14 weeks
weeks 7-22 tren e 500
weeks 9-22 mast e 600
Week 17-22 Winnie 50 ed
CJC no Dac 3x100 Ghrp2 5x100
Lean gains for most then cutting at the end, not sure to go with the tbol LDG combo, Epi, I'm a little nevous about superdrol and wouldnd like opinions on going full bloated with dbol or anadrol (never used anadrol, nervous for same reasons as Sdrol) Mean't to be mostly dry lean gains, I think I should make a few kgs, possibly extend it to 24 weeks and run something bloatier at the start and shred around the mast times, Any tips?

Should I man up and do some sdrol? with tudca?

My approach is to pin after exercise, that way the muscles can absorb the oil faster and there's less pip. Heating the oil also helps. And the shower thing. But like the other user said, all you gotta do is soldier thru it

Heating oil in warm water in the sink for like 2 minutes? Or is there a better way? Is rolling the vial in your hands for a few minutes enough?

just use the dbol.

Warming the oil*
god please don't heat your gear on a spoon kek

Tfw been on tren for 5 months

You ever ran epi, if so what's a good dosage?

Hold it in your hands for a minute or two, works for me

But fat

Has anyone run epi mid course /with winnie or S4 with winnie?

No, nobody EVER has EVER done that. EVEr.

>A N Y girl dresses like this
>Instant mires by every guy no matter what

How can I draw attention to myself like this if I'm a guy? Tanks and shorter-shorts only go so far

WHATEVER IT TAKES

I hope youre planning on using an ai, you know LGD is going to smash down your SHBG, and that means more free test, which means also more estrogen conversion without an ai, and less shbg for the estrogen to bind to.

get filthy rich and step out of a lamborghini

thank me later

In that case it's probably more her body and face. If you're shredded and have a nice face people will mire no matter what you're wearing. Hell I 'mire QTs wearing oversized tees because they look C O M F Y as fuck.

>5 months worth of tren

RIP your relationship

I mean in here bra cmon we're all m8s,
would you recommend s4 with winnie or a lil epi in the cours or am I using too much?
What about MGF

Of course man I got fina, adex and clom on hand ez access to others

>be hot grill
>wear tights
>people look at you in gym
>wear loose fluffy sweater pants
>people try to sneak even more looks at you because shape of ass sticking out from otherwise loose and unsexy sweat pants makes it even more eye catching

*shrugs* what are people even expecting you to wear?

nothing. literally go to the gym stark naked.

>thank me later
Psh, women are impressed with any mid-upper range sports car from Lexus is F and Audi rs5 to a huracan it won't matter much for 99% of women unless you want an Instagram whore who'll take pics on your freshly detailed car every fucking day.

Hell an entry level German car will work on the majority too as long as it's clean and in good shape.

>even more looks at you because shape of ass
Not even that desu I just like it because they look happier a lot of the time and it shows that they're there to workout and less to fuck around.

im legit scared the estrogen in the water is turing me into a faggot.
should i testup as a precaution?

>Can someone please tell me how bad PIP hurts IF it happens?

PIP will occur and there is nothing you can do about it.

The first time you inject into a new muscle it will hurt like a worse DOMS. That's it. It's not bad at all.
All recommended injection sites avoid nerves and veins so you don't need to worry about that. Just do the procedure correctly.

For me, I only inject into the ventrogluteal site, but I am a nurse so I don't know if that site is too technical for a layman. It doesn't seem hard to learn though, just learn where the head of your femur is and where your iliac crest is, and inject kind of in the middle. Look up a chart. If you aren't sure where to inject, press with your fingers on the spot where you think it should go, then stand up straight and shift your weight gently from one leg to another. If you are in the correct spot then you will feel with your fingers the site tense up. That is the muscle you want to inject into.

After you inject into muscles for a while, there will be little to no pain. At least, that's what happened to me. I get very, very, very slight soreness after injections now. You can run the vial of Testosterone Enanthate underneath a hot water faucet (don't contaminate the top) to warm up the liquid, this will reduce PIP.

>dont tell your doctor shit
Why. If you live in a first world country, they can't prosecute you for what you disclose in a private healthcare setting. That is illegal.

How do you think heroin, crack, and meth addicts get treatment? They go to the doctor and say "I think I'm having a heart attack because of the crack I just freebased" and the the doctor immediately reports him to police and has him arrested?

You could technically bring your doctor with you for your entire steroid cycle, informing him of every detail and showing him your injection cycle, and he would still treat you and try to maximize your health.

no, its because you dont come off as a attention whoring slut. you come off cute and innocent, thus people like you.

>like a worse doms, thats it

i literally couldnt walk correctly my first 3 injections because of how bad the pain was.

I couldnt flex my quads when walking, so i had it locked out the entire time which made me look retarded like hell.

Try walking without bending your legs. fuggin impossible

Thanks man, just one question:
>(don't contaminate the top)

Why does that matter? I mean i will clean the top of the vial before drawing with alcohol swaps anyways or do i realy have to make sure no water touches the top of the vial?

>All recommended injection sites avoid nerves and veins so you don't need to worry about that.
t. someone who has never injected quads

>Why does that matter? I mean i will clean the top of the vial before drawing with alcohol swaps anyways or do i realy have to make sure no water touches the top of the vial?
You really want to risk contaminating the top and HOPING you clean every single microscopic organism off with a small alcohol pad before you draw up?

First of all i life in germany near the alps, we have literally the best water in the world.

Second the shady guy from the internet that brewed my shit probably touched the vial with his cum stained shitskin hands anyway, so i even think it would be better hygiene if my german masterrace water touches the top of the vial.

I N S U R A N C E, R E T A R D

Wirf dich vor nen Bus Kevin.

rad140 and water filters bro

>tfw Aussie and this doesn't effect shit
Also blood tests for juice are free here , after you buy a $90 vial we have some benefits

ty. le ebin waterfilter merchant will be happy.

Best quad tip, sit on a firm surface like a coffee table that you'ce pushed against a wall and have knee right at the end, make sure it's high enought that your foot doesn't touch the floor, then lean back on the wall slightly away from the quad your injecting, there's no muscle pressure at all and quad will completely relax, you'll just no chance of that weird twitch thing that can happen

I know it's a meme but it does work my man

>Second the shady guy from the internet that brewed my shit probably touched the vial with his cum stained shitskin hands anyway
The tops are sealed..

since when is your doctor allowed to speak with your insurance?

> TELL DOCTOR ABOUT AAS USE
> HE LOGS IT
> INSURANCE ACCESSES MEDICAL RECORDS

WOW IM SO RETARDED HOW COULD DOCTOR SPEAK TO INSURANCE HURR DURR

i belive you. i feel i lack test & seeing all theese numales in town somehow got me.

lmao land of the free

you guys fucking suck

Also things like resveratol will lower est which raises test.
Sarms/serms are a great way to feel like a man and make very decent gains if you aren't ready for test, I'd reccomend a stack of LDG MK677 MK2866 and RAD, S4 is strong but it fucks with eyesight and fuck that shit

friendly reminder that america is a shithole.

No need for reminders here...

I'm kinda a new lifter, my form is good, but I want to get some dbol, anyone know how to get some? Just ask sketchy dudes at the gym? I'm a home gym lifter at the moment.

>Tanks and shorter-shorts only go so far
Are you trying to get attention form dudes or girls?

kill yourself idiot

>and surprisingly not gross to ladies.
Now I want to know what those fetishes are. lol
I've never had anyone weirded out b y the kinky stuff I like, but I'm pretty vanilla.

screencapped for further research.
good user!

if you take longer depressing the plunger (say 30 seconds) rather than less than 10 that will reduce soreness a bit, and leave the needle in for the oil to settle for longer too (another 40 seconds works well). just go steady and dont be in a rush basically, and massage the area after of course

I'm nice and benzod/eqhidined/ tramdoled right now if you wanna talk, a friend of mine is currently doing a cycle I designed him which has 1 technical steroid but no one round here really coults it, proviron, and he's looking unreal man just like hes on juice, but most people simply have no idea how to train/ eat so they get left behind

I just finished my blast and I'm taking a few days to get a little smashed, I never drink or anythin on cycle so this is my reward

>I designed him which has 1 technical steroid but no one round here really coults it, proviron,
Curious, what makes you think you're qualified to be giving advice on cycles given your (presumed) limited experience?

I'ma pt and have been lifting for 9 years, doing diet plans and routines for others for 4 years as a pt and coached 3 men into there comps, sarms are fairly new to me but I do a lot of research, theres a lot of stronger chems (juice, peps) but sarms are so safe and easy to use a lot of lads prefer them.
Anyway all I was gonna say is something I would do or advise to a mate, you could research to your hearts content after taht, I was just trying to be nice because im in a very good mood haha

>im a pt

Stopped reading there

Ok famalam it's a job that pays like any other, don't see the hate

Tudca is fucking amazing

WHY IS IT DEAD I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHINESE MYSTERY CHEMICALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm here, just lazy.

What are you running

Comfy cruising for the time being, will treat myself to despicable amounts of deca and EQ come May, not yet decided on dosage but probably neither of them below 600.

Is adding 50mg proviron to a cruise a bad idea?

Also what orals to buy for /summer/? Already got absurd amounts of var

Wanna sort out a cycle for somethin to do now?
Do you wanna bulk or cut?
Deca or NPP?
Can you afford priimo?
Ever tried any peptides?

25 on cruise is fine imo but itd be cheaper to add 100/150 mast e a week for very similar effects

Not him but can you give me the run down on primo

50mg proviron is like 20 cents a day lol. Also got mast p but it would be retarded to add that in low dosages to a cruise

Also orals for lean are sdrol, winny, EPI, tbol or oral tren