do you guys think bullying motivates people?

> do you guys think bullying motivates people?

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots#1940s
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Yes

it motivates the people worth motivating

No, it makes you feel like shit, the last thing you want to do is go to the gym when you feel like the biggest loser in the world, self motivation is the only way

It motivated me

Woman/pussy detected

Not from strangers

But yeah from friends

It does sometimes but mostly it makes you look like an insecure jackass.

Trips of truth

Depends to what level the bullying is.

Dome gentle ribbing may not have a motivational effect on some but does on others. Likewise a complete character assassination may not motivate some but will others.

I assume we're specifically talking about bullying fat people here.

The reality is: Fat people are a burden on society. They eat too much food while others starve. They raise healthcare costs for all of us. And they are a liability in any situation that might require any sort of physical fitness.

So, ultimately, hopefully, bullying them will accomplish one of two things: Either they will kill themselves, or they will take responsibility and improve themselves. It's important to note that EITHER of these outcomes is an improvement for society as a whole.

Seen it in the army, you think it wont work but it does.

It motivates the people who really want to change for the best. The ones that get triggered and act like pussies about it are worthless bags of flesh that society is better off without anyways.

Bullying motivates conformity, whether good or bad. Nothing more.

if you think a drill is bullying you are severly mentally handicapped.

>They eat too much food while others starve
yeah better kill athletes too, they eat way more than an average citizen, better kill them athletes.

Depends on the tone of the bullying and the personality of the recipient. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it.

what's with normies fucking up greentext every single time nowadays
did you jump here one week ago straight from facebook or what

If you think there is no bullying in the army you are severely mentally handicapped

Bullying in middle school and high school sent me spiraling into a bout of depression. Helped me find lifting as an outlet so I guess yeah.

Im here uncovering the fit alt right's secrets for the #swole #left #imwithher

its motivates people to shoot up a school yea

When I got bullied in school it was just aimless cruelty and it made me ducking hate myself and the world. When I got bullied in the military it was (mostly) with some sort of purpose beyond amusing the people doing it and they knew when to let off, eventually it helped shape me in a much more productive way

I found in the military, those who got bullied were those who shit on everyone else. Either through their laziness, their hygiene or generally fucking people over. These kinds of people need to be sorted out and sorted out fast.

I dont get how people can be bullied and not start lifting weights with the intention of eventually beating the shit out of the bully

Hate is the best motivation

Motivated people to want to fucking kill you

yeah man, if you care about what bullies are telling you is wrong with you then change

if you don't care then you're either a disgusting person or nothing is really wrong with you.

We all are severely mentally handicapped, anons, all of us

The studies and research show in 100% doesn't other than a less than marginal exception or two

Being a dick is just being a dick

Athletes also live a LOT longer than fat people. That gives them time to develop a host of health problems ( like cancer ) that come from just aging, also adding to the healthcare burden.

Athletes eat enough food, to support their calorie needs. fatties eat way over their calorific needs.

athletes are more productive and generate more revenue to support their eventual health problems

fat faggots get on welfare and die in hospitals being given "free" room and board.

This
I started lifting to prove a point. Now that the point is proven I carry on lifting to beat the dead horse

>The reality is: Fat people are a burden on society.
I always see this ridiculous logic on Veeky Forums

Everyone is a strain on society, that's what society is. Every time you eat food or drink water or take a shit or use electricity you're being a drain on society- we've just established that some things are worth communally dealing with and organising and paying for because we're not cavemen

I don't like fat people as much as the next guy but I'm not going to pretend they're somehow worse than me because they spend more on food
Even the argument that they're a drain on healthcare is retarded because it's accusing the symptom rather than the cause

Fatty logic is as retarded as fitty logic

I pretty much bullied myself to gym.

There is absolutely no scientific base for bullying working in the sense of making you develop a healthy self-esteem.

Keep telling yourself that bullying works since it got you to lose weight while you post here about your bicep insecurities, balding and lack of friends.

Bullying with the excuse that "it's good for them" is just a transparent way of rationalising your own asshole behaviour.

>athletes are more productive
>Running around a piece of grass is more productive than eating a pie
>Costing the health service more than fat people is fine if you're making money running faster than Kenyans

Top yourself with this nonsense

>fat faggots get on welfare and die in hospitals being given "free" room and board.
Also learn what tax is and stop being 12

Mate I grew up being bullied, real bullying, like having people show up to your house with guns trying to get you to come outside so they can kill you, I don't need some spoiled ass kid telling me about bullying

>being human means you will eat an excess of food and become fat
>straining the ecosystem even more than you would have if you had eaten a normal amount
>people not on welfare who contribute to society and don't need excess amounts of help and health care are burdens on society

women blacks and fat people are all burdens on society.

chinks, whites, and non-fat men every other color are in general pretty supportive of society

Athletes get around, wear and tear a lot more products on and around them.

Fat people sit around fused to their mother's couch and just consume the waste that's created as a by-product from making real food.

>no i didn't mean tax or healthcare guys honestly i meant the ecosystem and welfare

Also welfare comes from tax.

You're painfully retarded. They say all prejudice is a symptom of ignorance, I never believed it but you're illustrating that really well.

in a capitalist society as long as you're supporting yourself you're being a supporter of society.
fats don't, With our welfare and health systems, they take out more money than they put in and are therefore burdens on society.

>bullying thread turns into discussion of the relationship between obesity, capitalism, and society

I believe that is called a criminal offense, not bullying

thats not bullying its attempted murder

Edgy

it's fine to bully things that are destructive in/to society.
like everyone becoming a blob or acting like a nigger and lighting shit on fire,
constructive things like learning have no place being bullied.

>in a capitalist society as long as you're supporting yourself you're being a supporter of society.
That's the opposite of being a benefit to a capitalist society

Please stop being 12 on an imageboard, you're making people dumber for having to respond to you

>fats don't, With our welfare and health systems, they take out more money than they put in and are therefore burdens on society.
Going from your nonsense logic fatties actually spend more AND indirectly pay more tax and therefore are better for capitalism

Be less dumb

Supporting bullying in any form is in itself destructive to society.

So kill yourself.

Look up mike tyson on bullying

There's a difference between aggressive motivation and bullying. For one, the former is actually trying to help you.

>I'm 13 and have no idea how the world works: the post

>receiving tax money in the form of a welfare check and socialist health care bills means you are actually paying more money
m8 you're fucking stupid.

>Supporting bullying in any form is in itself destructive to society.
that's not true, if people were bullied for rioting and shit less people would riot.
If everyone was bullied for being a disgusting fat piece of shit and allowed no excuse to be fat besides laziness then people would be thin.

social ostracization is crazy powerful.

you're thinking of a socialist society m8, in a full on capitalist society the government is completely lassaiz faire from the actions of the market. did you even take economics 101bro?

>that's not true, if people were bullied for rioting and shit less people would riot.
>If people were made unhappier they'd riot less.
>Riots are only done by happy people.

Jesus fucking christ.

You're fucking stupid guy

>unhappy people are only capable of rioting instead of changing themselves to be better and happier
you're not understanding,
you'd shame them for acting like fucking retards and not getting their life together.

That's not what I was referring to. Make up your mind on which thing you want to be wrong about or stop changing your argument

Fat people pay more in tax because they eat more according to your nonsense logic in your last post.

You're literally acting like a 12 year old with no idea what you're talking about and everyone is laughing at you

Uhhh... that's not bullying man. You from South Africa or somewhere in the Middle East?

food isn't taxed you fucking retard
and if they're on welfare they're paying for it with food stamps

It always depends who it is coming from and why they are doing it. A person in a place of power that you respect "bullying" you, usually doesn't come off as bullying. It comes off as advice. Think drill instructors, mentors, professors, parents, etc. If the respect only goes one way this dynamic changes but "bullying" can still be advice.

When I say advice I mean a third party observer would say it is bullying but neither the person acting or being acted upon perceive it as such.

If it's 2 random people it serves no purpose on other than the person acting showing everyone they are not functionally a part of society. They are probably mentally ill or severely mentally handicapped.

So you can "bully" someone into change as long as you have a pre-existing relationship and understand boundaries.

As far as to how the person being acted upon takes it that is a lot more complicated because it's essentially a case to base basis. Some react to that sort of stimuli well by confronting it. The average person will likely be turned off completely, however, in which case bullying actually does more harm than good in getting that person to achieve the intended goal.

> Food isn't taxed.
> All world is MURRICA

>implying any other shithole matters

Prepared food is taxed in certain states you fucking retard

>food isn't taxed you fucking retard

r u srs?

And do you think that would actually achieve your intended goal? How delusional are you? That has literally never worked in the entirety of human history.

that doesn't stop these fat fucks from buying 30 2liters of soda in one trip to the supermarket.

It worked back when america wasn't a nigger hole.
the social view was based around religion which is essentially bullying retards into acting like civilized people.

This guy has to be a /pol/ troll. I'm fine with seeing the usual bro-science of Veeky Forums but this reaches a whole new level of stupid.

Do you really think there were either less, or no, problems back then? Have you ever opened a history book? How delusional are you that you think it actually worked?

There's a bunch of guys here shaming you for being a fucking retard and instead of reflecting on it, you just double down.

If it doesn't work on you, why would it work on others?

Underrated

ITT
>Respectable people telling others to be responsible for their actions and saying they deserve it if they fuck up
>Niggers

Yes.
>be bullied
>snapped and rekt bully
>his bully buddies didn't even rescue him
>became unbullied
>became bros with bully and co.

>guy makes a point about capitalism
>call him 12 and present no counter argument

I don't think you really have it in you to do anything if you're discouraged by words.

If it makes you sad or it pisses you off, do something about it. Veeky Forums motivated me, and I didn't want to be a fat fuck when I got older.

Three kinds of people in the world

Dicks, pussies, and assholes

Pussies tend not to like dicks because they're often too rough, but at the same time a pussy needs dick

Because only a dick can fuck an asshole

And assholes would shit all over everyone if they could get away with it

It can motivate some people. There are better ways to motivate people anyway, and bullying is never the first option.

5 US riots in 1940s
0 US riots in 1950s
27 US riots in 1960s
10 US riots in 1970s
9 US riots in 1980s
10 US riots in 1990s
9 Riots in 2000s
13 US riots in the 201xs so far

for some reason yeah, the 1940s and 1950s were more peaceful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots#1940s

my bad, there was one riot during the 1950s

I hated myself when i got up to 250 lbs. FPH threads were more motivation to do something about it. If you think you can love your body as you mutilate it, keep living in your delusional PC world.

good on you m8

I had a dream that I was getting bullied last night. I ended up strangling the bully to death, so I don't think it would've been good for me to get bullied growing up. Granted, this kind of shit is probably why I never did.

The whole reason I haven't bloated into obeast territory is because FPH; currently can't go to the gym and not watching what I eat but having that mental coach in the back of my mind saying "don't eat that you fat shit" motivates me to not eat as much

I was bullied until about highschool. Like pretty much the school freak, everyone hated me, kids would call me a loser and a fatass evertime they saw me and eventually would make things up to get me in trouble

Bullying fucked up my self esteem for a long time, to this day I get anxious around groups of guys. But truth be told, I was weird and out of place, and my hygiene was nonexistent. When it came time for middle school I refused to live that life anymore. I got my hygiene together and started forcing myself to talk to people.

And one day some kid was calling me a fat loser and saying I suck dick in the bathrooms and then tried to actually push me so I took him down and started elbowing the fuck out of his face for a good minute before the fight broke up. After that I stopped getting bullied

I feel like bullying gives you a certain coming of age goal. The day I stood up for myself and got my shut together was like a rite of passage

way to get your shit together man.

I don't think bullying works.
I think educating people with solid information and supporting them (not coddling, support - there is a difference) is a much more effective way of helping people.

+1
Totally right
bullying and beeing a weak faggot made me

>I think educating people with solid information and supporting them (not coddling, support - there is a difference) is a much more effective way of helping people.
yeah, that's bullying now.

Not really. Especially if it's someone being bullied while they're actively working hard to improve their situation.

How the fuck else are we supposed to enforce social norms?

Look at the retardation and degeneracy that comes from one generation of "just be yourself, it's okay to be different, everyone is special" mentality.

The problem with that is that social norms change. People (especially on this site) are quick to point out the virtues of bullying, but then cry about being bullied themselves for being a straight, white male.

fph threads have helped me lose 40 pounds in 8 months. The only thing though we shouldn't do though are manlet threads

t.5'4 mental manlet

The reason they're getting bullied by SJWs is the SJWs weren't bullied enough. That's the point. It's why masculinity is frowned upon and mocked. It's why fatties tease healthy people. By not enforcing the societal norms we've let a weird counter culture start to take over.

Being fit, attractive, hardworking, and rich are all things that are objectively good. We can't let the people who think otherwise take over.

And if you cry about being bullied for being a straight white male you're a pussy.

Height is something you pretty much absolutely cannot change and is just a roll of the dice. Weight at least, while there are definitely people with lucky and unlucky genetics, is something you can work on.

When people go "haha, I'm tall and you're not" it reads identically to "haha, my oil tycoon daddy bought me a porsche for my first car."

>Height is something you pretty much absolutely cannot change
just marry tall people and increase the chance that your babies will be tall.

That's self motivation
You realized you weren't happy with your looks so you motivated yourself to try and look better so YOU would fee happier, not because you wanted to appease a bunch of Veeky Forums posters

>telling people they're disgusting won't help them realize they're disgusting