So you have finally got the body of Chad...but I am sure that 99% of you still have your autist nerd pencil necks

Friendly reminder that if you are too embarrassed about looking like a mongoloid to train your neck in the gym you deserve to get no pussy

Ive the middle face is that good?

how does one train his neck

Flexion-Extension
The sternocleidomastoid (SCM) has the largest moment arm (best leverage) for neck flexion, while the superior and middle trapezius fibers have the largest moment arms for neck extension. The splenius capitus and semispinalis capitus also display good leverages for neck extension.

Lateral Bending
The muscles with the best leverages for neck lateral flexion are the anterior scalenes and SCM. The middle scalenes and levator scapulae also possess significant lateral bending capacity.

4th movement, you can only really do this if you have access to a cable machine or bands

Rotation
The superior and middle trapezius, sternocleidomastoid and semispinalis capitis sub-regions were the greatest contributors to contralateral (opposite side) axial rotation, while the rectus capitis posterior major, obliquus capitis inferior and splenius capitis were the greatest contributors to ipsilateral (same side) axial rotation.

Why not just train neck at home?

>ANOTHER FUCKING EXERCISE THAT I HAVE TO DO

nah fuck that id rather just be a pencil neck. lifting already wastes too much time.

Why not train it at the gym??? you too insecure? huh pussy?

weighted neck curls, high reps 20+

Would this work?

fair enough I'll buy one of those neck trainer things

>no time for neck training
>going to make it

What do people first notice when they see strangers? The face + neck. They dont look at your fucking delts before checking out your face. Guess what helps appear more masculine and dominant?

I'll give you a hint

>op doesnt realize a large neck is often associated with stupidity since it makes the head appear smaller

>b-but muh face

ive always wanted to look like a slavic manual laborer

All three movements performed
youtube.com/watch?v=dNgDIUrD2Dk

The increase in size of the sternocleidomastoid is whats adding overall width and thickness to the neck area as its the largest muscle in the neck, Its not a specific movement that's 'adding width' its just overall enlargement of that muscle especially. The SCM is being used in all of the movements just some more than others, and smaller muscles of the neck are being emphasized in other movements more than others also.
You have to remember the neck has 4 plane range of motion, doing only one of the movements is going to cause imbalances in the neck.

...

If you dont have a harness you can do neck bridges
Mike Tyson
youtube.com/watch?v=zvQTyHE2c5M

youtube.com/watch?v=iWYsPcyH69A

Isometric Resistance Neck Exercise
youtube.com/watch?v=5TxB_CwzRIE

just hold a weight to your head if you dont have a neck harness
youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUJOEzBPks

ive been training neck everyday for the last 2 months i almost look that frogtech meme guy now, shirts are starting to be too tight around my neck

>Guess what helps appear more masculine and dominant?
Under 21 ban.

all back row rugby players look fucking great

its the most test boosting sport you can play

Neck bridges and headstands.

pccblog.dragondoor.com/calisthenics-neck-training/

Although male masculinity is associated with health benefits, it is also associated with negative personality traits and behaviors. For example, high-testosterone men are less likely to marry, more likely to divorce and have more marital problems than lower testosterone men (Booth & Dabbs, 1993).
Men with higher testosterone are also less likely to feel a need to respond to infant cries than men with lower testosterone (Fleming, Corter, Stallings & Steiner, 2002). Masculine male faces are also ascribed antisocial traits, such as low warmth, low emotionality, dishonesty, low cooperativeness and poor quality as a parent (Boothroyd, Jones, Burt & Perrett, 2007; Perrett et al., 1998). Masculine men are also perceived to have more interest in short-term than in long-term relationships (Kruger, 2006), and masculine men have more short-term, but not long-term, partners than feminine men do (Rhodes, Simmons & Peters, 2005).
Attraction to masculinity is a function of the tradeoffs between the benefits of greater genetic health and the costs of lower investment in relationships and children (Fink & Penton-Voak, 2002; Gangestad & Simpson, 2000; Little, Jones, Penton-Voak, Burt & Perrett, 2002).
Factors that affect the relative importance of these costs and benefits affect this tradeoff. For example, the benefits of genetic health for offspring can only be attained when women are able to conceive and preferences for masculine traits are accordingly greater when conception risk is high (for reviews, see Fink & Penton-Voak, 2002; Gangestad & Simpson, 2000; Gangestad & Thornhill, 2008; Jones et al., 2008). Additionally, the paternal investment costs associated with partnering with a masculine man are less important in short-term relationships than in long-term relationships. Accordingly, women prefer more masculine men for short-term than for long-term relationships (Burt et al., 2007; Little et al., 2002; Little, Cohen, Jones & Belsky, 2007)

>Living your life outside-in, worrying how you're perceived versus how you actually are
You are beyond hope, user.

>mfw training neck actually isn't a meme

shut the fuck up

that study was paid for by people who want to emasculate and destroy maledom

This

which of the 16 studies conducted over the span of 15 years are you referring to? Fuck off with your shit bait, you'll convince some 15 year old kid to fuck up his life

shut the fuck up with your anti-masculinity bullshit

most male suicides are caused by low test and the current zeitgeist is gonna make things worse. There's nothing wrong with a man wanting to feel more like a man.
Aggression in minorities is caused by high estrogen, not test.
Fuck off with your shill bullshit.

NOTHING WRONG WITH FEELING LIKE A MAN

DON'T BELIEVE WHAT THE MEDIA TELLS YOU

What I'm reading here is, despite everything we're told and taught, women get wet from being treated like shit.

I'm just about done trying to be a good person. Maybe I'll start reading TRP and just go full cunt for six months, see what happens...

Do compound lifts, like sucking dick.

It will work your forearms, neck and mouth

>ok to take test or est if you wanna change gender

>wanna improve your life, take control of your depression and lift heavier weights? LOL FUCK OFF WHITE MALE

Its as pro masculinity as it gets.

I wonder if you can identify as a man in a woman's body in a man's body? Necessitating a testosterone prescription. Screencap this because it either has or will happen.

>it is also associated with negative personality traits and behaviors
>women prefer more masculine men for short-term than for long-term relationships
yeah, being low-test is so great, women will reward you for it with throwing themselves at y... oh wait

everyone always posts this

It's probably been achieved like 1 or 2 times max

...

>wanting people to assume you're a nerd

want too know how i know your not actually very inteligent ?

honestly his neck already looked photoshopped. with a palette-matched paintbrush function.

Is increasing test levels through supplements a meme? I'm a skinnyfat skellington who is weak as fuck and I feel like I need more. I'm already lifting, is that enough?

>Is increasing test levels through supplements a meme

yes

THE ONLY WAY TO INCREASE TEST IS TO INJECT TEST

don't fall for the test booster/supplement industry bullshit scam.

sure the fenugreek, tribulus, zma, horny goat weed and whatever else will make you feel hornier and more aggressive, BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY RAISE TEST, IT WON'T MAKE YOU BIGGER, IT WON'T MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A MAN, IT WON'T TAKE AWAY THAT 25+ DECLINING TEST DEPRESSION

Just eat regularly, high protein, healthy meals with lots of greens

as I am still super fucking weak and a skeleton that is in his second month of lifting I don't really want to take test since it shrinks your nuts after it wears off right? I also don't want to take steroids since I'm only 21.

You shouldn't take steroids at all. You need to eat healthy, lift heavy regularly, do cardio regularly and experience the pitfulls that the average Veeky Forums user experiences over time, i.e. the bounce between bodybuilding and heavy lifting.

You start off wanting to look good, maybe impress the ladies, then you do it for confidence, then you stop giving a fuck about how other people perceive you, then you do it for your lifting goals (1/2/3/4) perhaps, then you do it for the post-workout afterglow, then ultimately you do it for yourself, etc

After 25 I believe any man who feels lest than a man should be allowed to go on trt.

I see, that's good advice. But do you have to keep taking test? If you stop do you lose gains / your balls?

Also, does testosterone treatment really lower your voice? I kinda have a higher pitched voice, something lower would be fucking awesome.

>But do you have to keep taking test? If you stop do you lose gains / your balls?

If you're on trt it's generally for life. But even if you stopped it you do PCT (post cycle therapy which prevents you from losing gains and getting bitch tits). Low doses of test don't shrink your balls that much.

>does testosterone treatment really lower your voice
yes

Cringe. Guarantee you are under 21 and dyel af. Go outside.

>take it for life

That's a commitment I'm definitely not ready for. Now, would doing a cycle on test to get some initial bulk because I am pathetically weak (132 lbs) then doing PCT and just going natty for a couple years / permanently, is that something that's possible or a good idea?

>test lowers your voice

Do you like it?

You shouldn't take test until you've lifted for at least a few years/confindent with your strength levels/emotional outlook.

You're a 21 year old male, so your brain hasn't fully fused and your outlook on life with change in the coming years. I wouldn't recommend until age 25/26.

>Do you like it?
fuck yeah, I feel like a fucking man!

Look at this dude, on trt (plus nofap):
compare
youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQ_LbLsrDQ
with
youtube.com/watch?v=f1GFdIX9xlc

listen to how fucking deep his voice got and how fucking full his beard got. Amazing shit.

>>youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQ_LbLsrDQ
>with
>youtube.com/watch?v=f1GFdIX9xlc

>mikkois

fuck yeah, now go listen to someone like joeys world or linustechtips and notice how much estrogen they have in their voices

I see. Working out naturally for 5 years or more is fine by me, shortcuts only lead to problems.

I wanted to get buff so I was healthy (undetermined heart problems), then I wanted to get buff to look good. Now I just want to feel strong, something I've never had once in my life.

>tfw the path of the skinnyfat skellington is probably the toughest one since fat fucks already have a base to work with

Ain't giving up, my lads.

Also,

>no fap

I thought that was a meme and that fapping was good for your?

>Now I just want to feel strong

you're on the path my man, we're all gonna make it

>I thought that was a meme and that fapping was good for your?

it is good for you, it's calming and relaxing BUT when you're in your mid 20s and fapping to porn everyday then you have a problem and this isn't normal.

People on Veeky Forums like to say that not fapping causes prostate cancer later in life, but that's bullshit, proven false.

I mean if you fap 3x a week without looking at porn then that's a step forward, I guess.

You're welcome :)

Being a skeleton is fucking terrible, it is no existence for any male apart from girls (males). To have the strength of pic related is my ultimate goal, it's not going to be easy but I think I've figured out that the key to being fit is liking working out, which seems to true in my case.

>fapping to porn everyday

Man, that shit sucked. If you do it that often all porn just loses its effectiveness and then you have to keep fapping to progressively more fucked up shit to get hard. I'm convinced it's why traps exploded like they did, becoming almost normal.

If you abstain for a few days, then fap, even half a girls buttcheek will get you off.

high what. estrogen?

>People on Veeky Forums like to say that not fapping causes prostate cancer later in life, but that's bullshit, proven false.

No it hasn't.
Post your proof.

no u post yours lol

yeah I just made it up lmoa

fapping to keep prostate cancer at bay is a shitty excuse and a fucking cop out

They don't have thick necks because steroids basically ignore the necks and the guys on gear do not give a shit about neck muscles only the easy mass gains on their body.

It's one of the ways to tell if someone gained their manhood from a bottle.

>come to Veeky Forums to get in better shape
>end up riddled with insecurities

As a matter of fact there's not a single solitary real bit of evidence that it does anything for prostate cancer.

>need to wear shirt and tie for formal event
>dig out old white button up
>started lifting last year, haven't worn the shirt since then
>neck waaay too tight
>go to store for new one
>lady measures me
>neck went from 15-1/2 to 17 since i started lifting
wew lads

doesn't milk cause prostate cancer or increase the chances of it? I drink loads.

no shit

yes, milk and EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD CAUSES CANCER

kek

>punch in my numbers on weightrainer.net/bodypred.html
>says the biggest neck I can expect naturally is 16.2"
>I have a 15.4" neck right now
>neck training
What the fuck is even the point?

My neck is already bigger than that without neck training, so are my thighs. My forearms and biceps are close after a year of lifting too. Don't know what happened to my calves though...

Don't be put off by that site. In fact one of my legs is 3 inches bigger at the very top and an inch bigger in the middle. And I just started seriously training my quads.

lol you cant train your neck i have always had a thick ass neck, its all genetics u cucks

dont waste your time

this is already shopped to look thicker kek

Huh...
That actually says I reached my max potential as a natural when I was 17.

yes, just buy some cheap ass curl bar weights from craigslist and ur golden

thats what i did and now im a chad

maybe add in some resistance bands

What the fuck am I even reading?

high T men
>are healthier
>are less likely to marry
>are more likely to divorce
>have more marital problems than low T cucks
>less likely to respond to infants crying
>are more dominant, less warm, less emotional, more dishonest, less cooperative
>more short term fucking
>more partners

good on you bro, have a purpose in life (hitting 1/2/3/4, doing splits, being a confident guy instead of a beta cuck) having goals and working towards them will make you a man

i mean look at all those betas around you who just lounge around doing shitty jobs, jerking off 24/7, and just not giving a shit about life

yea i jerk off like 3x a week without porn (only pics) and it works wonders for me, i can talk to girls and get with them without feeling off or nervous. before i never talked to any girls, just had friends with guys cuz id go home and jerk off anyway

good luck my man

Have all of that, but am guilty as fuck about it and beat myself up over not being like the low t men. And see marriage as a victory, divorce as a loss, marrying a woman that will ever give me problems as a personal failing, protecting children as a show of strength, and short term fucking as no more then masturbation and that a long term love is more fulfilling.

>stop selling your aesthetics short and train your neck
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2009/07/whats-that-spindly-thing-holding-up.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/06/why-your-head-is-fucking-tiny-is.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/why-your-head-is-fucking-tiny-is.html
>naturalstrength.com/2011/04/key-to-might-muscle-circa-1926-chapter_11.html
>bretcontreras.com/neck-training-101/

Always had a thick neck

Archetypal post,mbro.

These just look outright stupid and dangerous to try yourself. This cant be good for you.

> I don't really want to take test since it shrinks your nuts after it wears off right?
Eat more protein, sleep more. workout more/harder than you already do, have more sex and fap more, Boss.
>press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
And this

You are supposed to move your neck that way if you were flexible enough, just like any other movement. Obviously you can fuck yourself up, but I would not start with weights anyways.
Its important for many athletes to have strong necks, martial arts, rugby

I do upper/lower split. Should i train neck on upper or lower day?

pics

I just want to know what to do about my jaw and that fat right below the chin

Do I have a pencil neck?

Can I get good neck growth even though I'm on a cut?

>2017
>having to train your neck
>not being genetically gifted a thick, strong neck

enjoy your "neck lifts" you fucking nerds

you have a toothpick neck

>If you do it that often all porn just loses its effectiveness and then you have to keep fapping to progressively more fucked up shit to get hard
fuck man it's so true, at the peak of my autismo (3 or so years ago) not only did i watch loli hentai and women getting fucked by dogs n shit, i had this giant elaborate masturbatory fantasy in which i collected every fappable photo of any hot girl i knew on Facebook and any model/celebrity or w/e i found hot and started writing stories (and i mean long ass 40+ pages of A4 shit) about how i had this harem of girls and was just constantly impregnating all of them, and for the majority of them i had head canon that they were actually my daughters and that i'd fuck and breed them too. fuck dude i had this shit literally mind mapped out like a's daughters are b and c, and c's daughter is d and d's is e and shit for like 300+ people, and had this whole fucking setting described in detail about how none of us aged past our 20s and shit. prolly spent an hour a day building up and jerking to that collection for like 3 years, before i suddenly realised that not only was it probably the reason i hadn't lost my v card at 19, but also more importantly the reason that i didn't care that i hadn't. i deleted it all, did about 2 months of nofap to reset myself and got laid the first night i went out after i started getting horny again
christ alive it actually makes me feel sick to my stomach to think about it now, and i think it really proves your point. in my early days of watching porn, and indeed in the last few years since kicking it, all that incest/bestiality/hentai shit genuinely grosses me out but after five straight years of 1-3x a day fapping that's what my fantasies had been turned into.
i fap like once a week now, mostly thinking about girls i've fucked in the past or whoever i'm flirting with at the time, and my life is better in every way
>tfw the greatest shame of your life is known only to Veeky Forums

I do neck curls with a plate on my head for the SCM and use a neck harness as well for the back. is that adequate?

tl;dr: masculine men get more pussy and dont give a fuck.