How do we solve the obesity epidemic?
Is this a problem that we should handle on an individual scale, or as a community? (In-depth nutritional education during schooling and how to read and use nutritional labels, or restricting producers from adding more than a fixed amount of certain macronutrients per gram?)
Any other suggestions?
Both of your ideas are terrible you fucking liberal. We shouldn't dump money into more useless ineffective educational programs and we shouldn't cripple private sector business because people are weak stupid sluts.
I propose we tax obesity directly. For every percentage point of bf you have over the obesity limit you get a percentage of your income taxed. That money is then distributed to the fit portion of the population via stimulus checks.
Unemployed obese people go to death camps.
>I propose we tax obesity directly. For every percentage point of bf you have over the obesity limit you get a percentage of your income taxed. That money is then distributed to the fit portion of the population via stimulus checks.
I like this a lot
Obesity (and Diabetes, which are pretty much the same thing) are both cause by insulin resistance. Instead of giving these type 2 diabetics MORE insulin they should be fasting to reset their insulin levels while staying away from insulinogenic foods (that produce high insulin when eaten) and switching to fats and proteins. Literally just eat food as its found in nature and you'll be fine, also, fasting is a lost art and a missing link in the western diet.
Look into Dr. Fung if you're interested in this. He's going against the common belief of almost every health professional in his field.
This should get you started:
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Here's his 6 part lecture on "Diabesity". Its about 8 hours of content:
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And to add, bringing this to the general public is almost impossible since its all about money.
And to consider how we implement this information and get it to the general public, well, I don't know.
They're making a killing off of addictive process carbohydrates and then cashing in again with treatments that don't work.
Its that ol' weak spot of capitalism at work, there is no money in telling people to eat nothing for a week or a day unless you're in the market of selling mouth gags. The cure is there it just needs more attention.
I'm a fatass in recovery and I approve of this idea.
BRING BACK PUBLIC SHAMING
Obesity causes insulin resistance, not the other way around.
Stop shilling this shit
>against the common belief of almost every health professional in his field
Bullshit everyone who's been to school knows how the cycle of diabetes goes
Obesity -> receptors go back into cells -> high blood sugar -> beta cells produce more insulin -> more receptors into cells -> high blood sugar -> more insulin -> still fucking high blood sugar -> resistance achieved -> beta cells give up like every fat person does as well
this is not fucking new knowledge nor rocket science
if the american educational system cannot provide this simple knowledge you guys are lost anyway
everyone in germany who's been to biology class knows this shit and it still doesn't help since 60% of our adults are obese or fat
Fat people will never change and no knowledge will ever help them
It's their personal choice to be human failures
Taxation seems like the only reasonable way to go about it, yeah.
Too bad that's not gonna happen because of people's fee fees being trampled over, but eh, what the hell. I mean if you are obese, it's no longer just a "few extra pounds", "puppy fat" or whatever those delusional seacows tell themselves.
Maybe even the upper end of the overweight class too, with exemptions for people who are displaying lower body fat percentage (i.e. athletes).
No more fast food ads
>mfw the US spends a greater % of our budget on Healthcare than countries that have free fucking Healthcare
>mfw we still score worse in most health statistics like life expectancy etc
>mfw fatties are literally causing massive economic problems
The Man and woman with the highest body fat percentage for their sex get publicly executed each month.
A new law makes it so you face no legal repercussions for bullying fat people.
Its a vicious cycle. Your body builds up tolerance to hormones when they're constantly exposed to them. When you eat 6 times a day your insulin levels are always high and that will build up a tolerance in the cells. Therefore you will need more insulin to get the same effect, and over, and over again.
The theory is that when you deprive your body from as much insulin and possible you will get those tolerances down to a healthy level. That includes staying away from insulinogenic foods and incorporating fasting periods into your diet.
>thinking state funded education is the answer
Yeah, nah.
I guess that's why Steve Redgrave has diabetes, huh?
>please give me free money
You're no better than those fat fucks. The solution is just to abolish health care benefits for obesity and the numbers of obese people will instantly drop.
>>mfw the US spends a greater % of our budget on Healthcare than countries that have free fucking Healthcare
thats also down to price gouging. i.e the UK NHS can negotiate on behalf of +60 million people whereas individual states cannot and private insurance also drives the price up to make a profit
-Ban fast food ads, replace them with fat-shaming ads
-Taxation on processed foods that are really high in sugar, salt...
-Subsidies on healthy foods like veggies, beans and fruits
-Education on nutrition in school
-Free gym memberships/ sports club
And my personla favorite
-Use warning signs for food that makes people fat. Imagine you have a 500 pound guy on a bottle of coke or sweets and a small sign that says: This product is very unhealthy and may lead to diabetes, obesity and early death.
>abolish health care benefits for obesity
I absolutely agree with that idea, but not all obese people are on Medicaid. Probably most are on private insurance. And many are still too young to be suffering from the consequences of their lifestyles. We'd see the numbers drop during the initial die off, but I would imagine they would stabilize.
I never said that doesn't work. It's the only reason why Diabetes 2 patients are exposed to insulin at some point since their resistance was lowered after not having freakishly high blood sugar levels all the time.
Yet again, no rocket science.
People just need to lower their insulinogenic food intake before their beta cells stop producing insulin themselves and the receptors can be restored again
Still this is no new knowledge and could be taught to anyone by reading two text book pages instead of watching 8hrs worth of YouTube videos
what's the problem? if everyone around you is fat it just makes you look better
>Education on nutrition in school
cico theory or hormonal obesity theory ?
perhaps both let people decide what works for them
Beta cell acting quite beta.
Add autopsy photos of the obese or some other shock photos to fast food bags/wrappers.
Just like they do with cigarettes in other countries.
Well in America the treatment to insulin resistance (diabetes) is more insulin.
Whenever you have a question they say "ask your doctor". But literally asking your doctor is how we got in this fucking mess.
Fat people are addicted to processed carbs, sugar drinks, shit like that for the insulin. All they need to do is witch off of those carbs to fats and proteins and give themselves a fasting period. That means eating til satiated once, twice, three times a day within a 6-8 hour window then not eating again until the next day. That's why its called breakfast; break fast. The art of fasting is ancient and is found in all religions but it has been forgotten. People think the need to eat 6 times a day to keep their metabolism except it should be eat 1 time a day to keep insulin levels low.
I have another suggestion to add to your list, user.
>remove most subsidies from corn and wheat
>reapply to healthy fruits and vegetables
the reality is: all the information is readily out there on the internet. people either think of themselves as helpless and don't even try or just willfully choose to be a fat pos.
Doesn't Japan require people to go to weight counseling classes if they exceed a certain weight limit? Their obesity rate is like 3% there.
Simple - let Darwin/nature do its job and advertise the results.
Every fat person should be legally required to fight me once a year. I'll kick their ass, thus giving them motivation to lose weight lest they get their ass kicked again in 365 days
Thoughts?
(You) again, do you get off on this or something? I get it that triggering Veeky Forums autists is fun, but really this b8 is getting stale.
Get corn syrup out of foods
>Teach basics of dieting and CICO in school
>obesity isnt a 'disease' but a mental disability
>higher taxes on food if you are a certain % bf
>stop giving fatties care workers and let them rot in their houses
I believe that we should change food stamps to not cover candy, ice cream, pre packaged meals, hot or cold deli food (a lot of people I see with stamps buy this stuff), really any kind of snack or junk food.
It should only cover fresh, canned, or frozen fruits and vegetables, fresh or frozen meat (no chicken strips/nuggets/breaded fish), all kinds of basic starches for meals (flour, bread, tortillas, pasta, rice), all dairy, eggs, juice (no sports drinks or anything), and all salad dressings/canned sauces.
A ton of calories for these people come from snacking, not meals. If you make them put an iota of of work into eating, maybe they won't do it so much. Its time to turn government reliance into government assistance again. Maybe if these people learned a skill like cooking they'd be able to go out and get a job and not sit around all day mindlessly
consuming. Obviously some people like the elderly or the disabled cannot spend lots of time cooking or need simple, premade meals, so I think they should get an unrestricted card. Maybe when you apply for food stamps you would need a recommendation from a primary care physician to get the unrestricted card.
agreed if the first fat person you have to fight is fedor or mark hunt
>abolish health care benefits for obesity
That's a good idea
as much as I'd like to blame fatties, this is the real explanation
>How do we solve the obesity epidemic?
Make it illegal.
Sieg Heil
Consume too mamy calories -> higher body fat -> insulin resistance -> obesity
Bumpan
Actually, there was a point in Irish history where they taxed fat/unhealthy people for being fat and unhealthy. Worked pretty well until that whole famine thing
This is the correct answer.
Instead of teaching kids about the food pyramid, teach them about CICO in elementary school and again in high school. It's simple addition and piss easy to learn. Them caring is their own problem.
Also, work towards making fat ridicule more socially acceptable.
I should add, allow health insurance companies to drop fat people if they don't get their act together within a certain time period. Make fatassery exempt from the ADA.
This is all hypothetical, but,
Develop a gene that is triggered by the typical cellular signals of obesity - think fat globules and the associated portions of adipose tissue.
Then the hard part: Develop (de-novo, combinatorial, or win the ncbi lotto) a protein that catalyzes the creation of 2-4-Di-NitroPhenol (DNP)
Bonus points for inserting into a vector that primarily targets fatty/adipose tissue
Either it cures them all, or it kills them all.
Release in Florida, Texas, and Louisiana simultaneously so people might call it the FTL virus (my initials)
Addictions Specialist here (Actually educated, working on Grad School in a related field):
Obesity is due to food addiction.
It follows the same criteria as other addictions.
Most people can drink socially, but others become alcoholics.
Most people could/can do drugs recreationally but others become addicts.
Most people can have sex normally while others need to compulsively (hookers every week).
Most people can gamble for fun while others lose their life's savings.
There are a large number of people who can eat normally while there are others who eat themselves into obesity.
Everyone of the addictive behaviors I just mentioned has their respective 12-Step programs and it is socially acceptable to shun alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, and gambling addicts.
BUT WOE IS HE WHO TRIES TO USE THIS LOGIC ON A FOOD ADDICT.
It's fucking awful. The fat-acceptance movement is a suicidal path that will cause our life expectancy as a society to drop dramatically. I really don't know what to do when I get into the field because for obese people, losing weight has a tremendously positive affect on their health issues.
It is an epidemic and I would say easily on par with the current heroin epidemic issues. I just see so many obese and morbidly obese people in my every day life in school, work, church, etc. and feel like its a losing battle. I was at a BMI of 30 last November and felt god awful. Worked down to a 27.5 and am upping my gym workouts from 2-3 up to 5 no fucking excuses. I;m 6ft 1 208 pounds and just cannot fathom how people let themselves go over 250. Once I hit 220 I realized I had an issue and made life changes accordingly.
It is not easy, but the alternative is death.
You retard,
If youre going as far as setting up a lytic vector, just have it target adipose tissue and downregulate with signs of good health and a loss of weight, perhaps metabolites like elevated blood ketone levels
Dont make a protein factory when you can just lyse fat cells.
>1208 pounds
BRUH
Yeah but thatll take at least another decade
Give any citations.
Not that it matters since all psych research is nearly always unreproducible...
It's not addiction: Addiction implies that theyre fundamentally changing their neurotransmitters to a point that they require overeating to function.
Unless you can show me a study suggesting/demonstrating just that.
kek, thought the same at first and took me a second to re-read it.
See
"Accelerated Evolution"
Cutting calories is not the right approach. The food pyramid was made by special interests. Ridiculing fat people will not help, and quite frankly you're less of a person for even suggesting so.
You people are so dumb sometimes it pisses me off. Do some fucking critical thinking and stop perpetuating bad information you know nothing about.
something like this?
>Cutting calories is not the right approach
Oh do tell.
"We conclude that “food addiction” is a misnomer because of the ambiguous connotation of a substance-related phenomenon."
I was hoping for you to provide something suggesting or demonstrating a physiological change in neuroreceptors.
Instead you provide something that suggests its a behavioral problem. Which is established.
Im open to more studies if you have them.
Cutting calories only works temporarily. After a while your metabolic rate reduces and you've cur your calories and you're not burning as much as you think you are and you plateau. Study after study shows that when you cut so does your metabolic rate. So what. is. the. fucking. point.
Fasting. Look it up dipshits. Its been practiced since the dawn of man. It has only disappeared in the last 50-100 years, and guess what everyone has also gotten fat in that time.
Fasting helps with diabetes, obesity, sagging skin from weight loss, wrinkles in skin, recycling and restoring old proteins. Fasting is also great for regulating hormones.
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Its about WHAT and WHEN you eat. Cutting is the wrong god damn approach. Cut all the fucking carbs out of your diet. Eat all the god damn sat. fats and proteins you want. You won't need to count them cause they NATURALLY SATIATE YOUR HUNGER JUST LISTEN TO YOUR STOMACH.
Oh boy, it's a fat person!
I know youre seeping mad, but what theyre saying is correct and factual.
Theyre not attacking you personally, just your beliefs and your behavior. Its leading to your miserable and accelerated fatty death.
HAES whale detected.
Cutting calories has worked for me and thousands of others for years. I also tried IF at the same amount of calories, but there was no real noticeable benefit. You had an entire thread of people calling you a moron for some very good reasons, yet you appear to have completely ignored it.
show a source that doesn't come from a youtube vid or a forum post (because, let's face it, i can PROVE the existence of the spaghetti monster using those), and then we'll talk
I cured my obesity by reading sticky, ignoring the
>calories in, calories out
part for 1 month, then read it again and then it worked!
You fight ignorance with education. I honestly believed that i was born as fat kid to my morbidly obese mother and fat dad. If only the pe teacher told me how to unfaten me instead forcing me to run which made me hate sport with passion for my whole youth.
I honestly didnt know any better and i bet you usa fats has it the same.
okay - time for an unpopular opinion...
okay, so I'm right wing. categorically. hard work, no mollycoddling, the whole nine yards.
that said I do believe obesity is due to modern diet: namely sugar and refined carbohydrates.
I know, I know - no-one forces them to eat it - but the government does need to stop telling people to load up on bread and grains. They need to take responsibility for that.
Also, I know, I know - you eat refined carbs without issue - good for you. However, obese people are essentially all pre-diabetic. these people don't process carbohydrate like you.
I was enthusiatically for the fat hate threads etc. But after I read Gary Taubes book on 'why we get fat' the case was settled for me.
I know view weight gain as much an involuntary reaction as an allergic reaction.
and yeah - just cos you can eat nuts doesn't mean someone else is responsible for their anaphilactic shock.
It lowers your metabolic rate to a normal persons.
Then you proceed to eat like a normal person.
I went from over 250 to under 170 AND STAYED THAT WAY FOR FIVE FUCKING YEARS because I didnt "diet", I had a lifestyle change.
Take your fat person logic and get the fuck out.
You're a fucking moron. If IF didn't work for you its because you failed to do it correctly.
>hurr durr everyone else says to do it
Yeah its the power of repetition. You appeal to the "fact" everyone tries it and it works. Guess what, it fucking DOESN'T. Especially if you're obese. If it works for you than you're already at your desired weight and metabolic rate give or take 5-10lbs. AM I CORRECT? YOU KNOW I AM ASSHOLE.
Ignored it? No, I've debunked it. And i'll beat it into every one of your stupid fucking heads by the time I'm through with this place.
Its like fighting off a hoard of uneducated parrots who just keep perpetuating the same advice. I don't believe you for a second. You didn't cut calories by 500-1000 and maintain that for 80 lbs and not gain that weight back. If you did, than you CHANGED YOUR MACROS AND / OR TIME OF DAY YOU ATE.
It's not that IF didn't work, it's that it didn't have any benefits over simple calorie counting.
>It doesn't work
I should tell that to everybody I know who went from obese to skinny/swole by counting calories
I dropped 35 pounds with calorie restriction and kept it off for a year. Over that time, my weight stayed within ~2 pounds of 140 until I started eating more and going to the gym every day.
If calorie restriction doesn't work, it's because you're a moron and can't do grade school addition. You haven't debunked shit. You've been spamming the same links to a single doctor saying that insulin resistance is why people are fat, then gone in an all caps rage at anybody who suggests calorie counting.
>Is this a problem that we should handle on an individual scale, or as a community?
A little of both. The federal government needs to stop publishing "eat low fat" bullshit and publish "eat low glycemic index" guidelines instead.
Also requiring all nutrition labels to contain glycemic index would make it far easier for individuals to not get fat.
You changed your macros and time of day that you were eating. It wasn't that you cut calories, its that you were staying away from INSULINOGENIC FOODS.
Im a hardcore blue democrat.
I volunteered to do taxes for two years for people making under 50k, volunteered at countless homeless shelters, and worked for an aquarium preaching the dangers of global warming for 7 years.
Your suggestions are commie bullshit and unamerican.
Obesity has a POSITIVE correlation with obesity. Every shelter ive worked at is packed wall-to-wall with more food than theyll ever need.
Is it high-carb and processed? Of course. But thats not the fucking problem.
Ive lost weight eating fast food. Physics professors lose weight eating nothing but twinkees to spite people.
The problem is their work ethic and the way they dont even think about their weight.
If anything, there need to be cuts made to welfare - specifically if the people are overweight.
People should NOT be getting fat on tax dollars! Its unamerican.
No, I ate the same kind of food at the same time of day. Funnily enough, I'm doing the same thing except with more calories, and I'm gaining weight now. I also eat fuckloads of carbs and sugar every single day, yet my weight has directly corresponded to calories.
Have you tried calorie counting?
So you lost 35 lbs eating the same shit that you were before but just cutting calories. I don't believe you. If you the foods were carb heavy you would have rebounded. If they were fats and proteins you wouldn't have been fat in the first place because those foods are naturally satiating and you can only eat so much unless you gorge yourself tirelessly. I don't believe a word you're saying anyways.
Its called EATING AT MAINTENANCE LEVELS. After I attained my goal weight I ate at my metabolic rate's consumption level.
Yes. I changed my macros to fit my new metabolic rate. Its that simple.
You should try it.
Yes and I plateaud after 10 pounds and I rebounded. It wasn't until I started fasting and switched to natural foods with sat. fats and proteins. Then the weight poured off me.
I get how it sounds 'commie and unamerican' which is why I felt the need for the qualifier.
still though - I don't think it's as much their fault as you might think.
the physics professor with the twinkies example I am aware of (well, I thought it was oreos) - but I'd be interested to know if he was actually significantly overweight and pre-diabetic - or if he just lost a few pounds (also, since we're on fit I'd REALLY like to know what it did to his body composition).
also, as a physicist myself - I can attest that we have nothing of value to add to that conversation, treating the human body like a Newtonian body seems absurd to the point of wondering if it even needs mentioned.
Not sure if you were saying the physics bit was relevant - but just thought I'd clarify.
Obesity has a positive correlation with poverty*
I don't care if you don't believe me. It's what I did, it's what my friends did, and it's what I still do. I was fat because I'm a 5'9 Elliot Rodger level manlet who was eating 3000+ calories a day. You sound like you have some deep interest in this insulin thing being true, and will irrationally attack anything that doesn't agree with it. Stay fat.
What kind of foods did you eat on your diet. What kind of foods did you eat when you were fat.
I ate the same thing when I was fat, and the same thing in lesser portions when I was cutting, and the same things in slightly larger portions than the cut now.
also, before the next reply I'm going to come half way.
I do think people are responsible for creating the pre-diabetic conditions - but once you have them - calorie counting wont work. You need a corrective diet.
In my case, I know I over indulged for years. I was responsible for where I got to - but calorie counting never worked, and even if it did - Dropping carbs was so much more effective as to make the point irrelevant.
I think you underestimate how deeply corrupting fat logic is. Its actually gotten to the point where obesity is considered a disability and you can lose your job for discriminating against these fat fucks.
Im an undergrad, but built a cosmic ray detector and won a tri-state award for the presentation on the analysis of the data. I consider myself an engineer - but the point is that we both recognize that thermo has very strict rules about all this.
Im a Bioengineer and have studied genetics intensely since I was one of those "muh genetics" fatasses.
Theyre wrong. Theyre all fucking wrong. Even if everything they said was true, it might result in a net change of their metabolism so that they end up using less energy and should JUST EAT LESS.
Calorie-in-calorie-out is all there is to it. Its basic undergrad thermo.
So you admit you were fat and that you think calorie counting doesn't work? Sounds like you were lying to yourself about what you ate,
I understand that man. What kind of foods? Carbs, Proteins, Fats?
Breakfast:
250-300 cal of mixed cereal (cheerios, raisin bran, granola) + egg
Lunch: depends on the day, always includes a spinach, mushroom, egg, onion, and granola salad. I usually have soft serve ice cream with it. Some days I have pizza, some days pork/steak, some days burgers.
Dinner:
>Implying
I have a proposition for you, a logical one.
Consider Occam's razor in the context of your argument for the existence of a prediabetic state that somehow defies the laws of thermodynamics.
Is it simpler to propose that those individuals simply have a collective mass with enough whining force to write entire books shilling this idea that they "just cant lose weight"
Or is there this state of human physiology in which they cannot lose weight even with calorie restrictive diets which would allow for countless funding dollars for doctors to investigate?
And to repeat myself, the only thing I changed between being fat, cutting, and bulking, is serving size. Controlling your weight is simple addition.
Okay you're right - but when I say didn't work I meant fuck this 1lb a week bullshit. was 50lbs overweight and wasn't waiting a year. I guess I should correct and say that it technically it did work. But for me at least low carb was orders of magnitudes better.
If you want to say I didn't have enough willpower to do it your way then fine - I'll admit that. But what does that matter if there was a better way? surely it's a means to an end? and pragmatically, If you want less fat people gobbling up your tax dollars - let's give them the best chance of succeeding.
Clearly the "individual scale" approach isn't working, nor is increased nutritional education. Even the shittiest schools explain calories in calories out these days and we still have a nation that believes in bullshit instant weight loss shakes or pills or berries or whatever. I'm at the point where I say fuck free speech, start penalizing the shit out of people who knowingly perpetuate false health/nutrition info, CANCEL Dr. Oz and the rest of the daytime talk brigade and fine any network that runs reruns, eliminate food stamps and replace it with 1500 calorie per day diet pre-packaged meals!
So you admit you've spent the past several days freaking out at people and making multiple threads, because you personally didn't have the willpower to stop shoveling shit into your face, and therefore the thousands of people who successfully lost weight are all wrong?
You are why Veeky Forums hates fat people.
not claiming it breaks the laws of thermodynamics - and it's been investigated. That was the subject of the Taubes book I mentioned.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Total energy expenditure and resting metabolic rate in the subjects with diet resistance (group 1) were within 5 percent of the predicted values for body composition, and there was no significant difference between groups 1 and 2 in the thermic effects of food and exercise. Low energy expenditure was thus excluded as a mechanism of self-reported diet resistance.
In contrast, the subjects in group 1 underreported their actual food intake by an average (+/- SD) of 47 +/- 16 percent and overreported their physical activity by 51 +/- 75 percent. Although the subjects in group 1 had no distinct psychopathologic characteristics, they perceived a genetic cause for their obesity, used thyroid medication at a high frequency, and described their eating behavior as relatively normal (all P < 0.05 as compared with group 2)."
In short,
FAT PEOPLE TEND TO UNDERESTIMATE CALORIC INTAKE BY A SIGNIFICANT MARGIN AND OVERESTIMATE PHYSICAL EXERCISE BY A SIGNIFICANT MARGIN
I understand that you think better of people, but its that fucking simple.
As a vague leftist I approve of this but it's strange to see a conservative type propose a taxation.
>how to read and use nutritional labels
It's pathetic that this is what our society needs, but unfortunately, this is what our society needs. It doesn't have to be a government subsidized thing but this should at the very least be taught privately in households. You can't count on fatties to understand concepts like TDEE or what the different macronutrients do if they don't know how to read labels mean or have a practical sense of what constitutes a calorie.
Just watch an episode of My 600-lb Meme. Notice how the fatties immediately gain all the weight back the instant they leave the hospital and go off a calorie-controlled diet? It's not just because they're pathological eaters but because they're pathologically stupid. They can't count calories for themselves.
Yes, it's dumb to judge reality by a TV show, but in this case it is an unfortunately accurate metric for the fatter, stupider proportion of society. These people can't be trusted counting calories if they don't understand how to count calories. And if they *did* understand how to count calories, they never would have gotten obese to begin with.
freaking out and making multiple threads? and no those thousands aren't wrong - my hats off to them. All I'm saying is I found an easier way. willpower aside - I can't think of a good reason to choose the hard way over the easy way all else being equal.
>Reading labels and addition
>Hard
heavily tax anyone who exceeds more than 3000 calories of consumption a day. This scales up according to a person's actual profession if they actually require a higher amount of nutrients and arent just slobs ie bodybuilding. People are maintained under this control through registration once someone exceeds a certain weight, which can be tracked through various forms of registration already present that can implement weight measuring (such as having a person weighed for a driver's license, passport, any other form of identification). That or just track down and throw fat people into holes in the ground dug around major cities to let them rot
Remove health care coverage for obesity related illnesses. You wanna be morbidly obese? I don't care, neither should the rest of society. Either you gonna stop or you're gonna die.
Everything hurts because you're too heavy? Go fuck yourself. In need of medication because your blood pressure is too high? Go fuck yourself. You need to be sent to a zoo / vet to have your ct scan done because you're too large? Go fuck yourself.
Maybe the gene pool needs a little chorine once in a while.
"I do think people are responsible for creating the pre-diabetic conditions - but once you have them - calorie counting wont work. You need a corrective diet"
If calorie counting doesnt work, then they are quite literally breaking the laws of thermodynamics. If they take in less energy than they expend and manage to gain nonwater bodymass, doesnt that imply just that?
dE (dot) = m(dot)x(dH + 1/2 (v2^2-v1^2) + gdz)
Assuming dV and dZ are negligible (lets say they dont exercise) then its just food intake and their basal metabolic rate, and lets exclude heat exchange and work since we're taking exercise out of the equation.
If h2 < h1 (intake less than expenditure, I guess, Im just blowing smoke) then they lose weight.
>bitches at a guy for being liberal
>proposes a gluttony tax
You're the fucking liberal.
The only solution need is to get rid of the individual mandate AND the healthcare laws that prevent insurance companies from cutting people for arbitrary reasons.
Fatties won't be insured. They won't cause your rates to go up. One could realistically start a "fit people only" insurance company that does annual DEXA scans on customers to ensure low bf%.
The market will solve the problem, not more taxes. Fucking college "conservatives" are just libs in disguise.
Write to god-emperor Trump to replace the secretary of health to this man.