Why was the Weimar Republic bad?

Not him but I can assure you everyone who lurks this thread is going to think you look like a tremendous retard

This is not how this board works. Random names of communist and socialist politicians (and one poet, lol) means absolutely nothing. According to you
>Weimar government, much like its economy, was run for the most part by Jews
None of these people were in any Weimar government. Some of them were Reichstag deputies, that's all.

So basically you’re admitting you’re wrong

You shouldn't forget the constructive vote of non-confidence that was installed in the FRG constitution, because of it's non-existance in the "Weimar Republic", it can really fuck the political system if a majority can simply dispose of a member of government, without giving a positive alternative, just because they don't like the government.
(Also in the FRG the Bundestag is the legislative body, the Reichstag is the name for the building in Berlin they sit in)

I'd also like to hear some of those "obvious facts", Wilhelm Pieck, Clara Zetkin and Paul Frölich weren't jewish.

It's explained in the Sonderweg thesis which is essentially correct and only discounted by academics because they are for the most part western liberal. But basically, Germany had no experience with Democratic systems and the Weimar republic was bound to fall apart anyway. Authoritarianism is a large aspect of German culture. You see this today with how authoritarian modern Germany still is, despite the fact that it calls itself a democracy.

>Nationalists angry because versailles
>Workers angry because old economic elites still in charge
>Everyone angry because the economy is fucked after 1929 and the government doesn't magically fix it
In comes hitler, promises he'll fix stuff with the power of national solidarity and jew-b-gone, and before you know it he has a cult following and plays the rest of the political establishment like a fiddle.

Childhood is idolizing Hitler and blaming the Weimar for everything that went wrong with Germany
Adulthood is realizing that the Weimar Republic would've turned Europe into a hyperstate that would've colonized the solar system by now, plus the attractive bonus of the USA probably not existing since no one actually flees/migrates to it for 100 years after that

>Sonderweg thesis
Sounds like some Western Germans bitching at dem 'retarded boot-licking Easterners'. Come on, man.

And bitching about Prussianism again too, btw

Oh no, I completely agree. I mean, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with more authoritarian governments so long as there's obviously some sort of constitutional system in place. We should stop trying to project the American system on literally everyone else in the world. I just think generally Sonderweg has a lot of truth in it that is overshadowed by Westerners who don't want to see any aspect of authoritarianism in a positive light, and instead debate those types of systems philosophically rather than respond to what the general premise of the thesis says (authoritarianism is a German cultural trait).

>waaaaaaah they don't ask me to provide sources on /pol/!

greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf
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Pages 56, 77-81, 150, 177-83, 228-33 455-6 to start you out.

>Mein Kampf is definitive proof that X was bought by the Jews

OH NONONONONONO
/leftypol/ on suicide watch

wtf i hate the weimar republic now

Only two of them are Jewish lmao

>Mein Kampf

>Charlie Chaplin visits a dying cancer patient.png

The association of the Weimar Republic with economic failure is faulty. The post-war hyperinflation crisis can be almost entirely blamed on the poor way which Germany ran its economy during WWI. Rather than raise taxes to fund the war, the Germans opted to take loans and run deficits that would prove to be fatal when they lost. Between roughly 1924 and until the Great Depression, the economic situation in Germany was stable and with the assistance of the Dawes plan they were making good on their Versailles payments (which, despite what some would have you believe accounted for a negligible 1.7% of Germany's GNP).

Excellent bait, but absolutely abhorent shitpost.

>Can't find a single thing wrong with his argument so resorts to ad hominem

Classic JIDF

It was a staple of the time, really. Political extremism. The French Third Republic was politically unstable, as well.
This is true as well.

>THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!
>THEY NEVER ASKED FOR SOURCES ON /pol9k/

kek

Yet they supposedly only made up 1% of the population.

he didn't say they were jewish, only that they were bought by jews

>they were bought by jews
Source?

>autistic KPD screeching on one side
>nazis gaining more and more power on the other
and here I am, stuck in the middle with you

>I mean, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with more authoritarian governments so long as there's obviously some sort of constitutional system in place.
I most certainly do. Democracy allows you to peacefully remove a poor leader from power, an autocracy does not.

Political fragmentation.

You had parties for any ideology in the Weimar republic. At the same time consensus building was hard not just because of ideology but everybody having different egos and interests.

While having so much parties is democratic in the sense people have more choices the consequence is that coalition making is hard.

But a democracy can be bought, making any and all replacements about the same if not worse

The existence of the freikorps

not gonna lie, all that its missing is "well he hates jews so he is obviously going to invent anti-jewish lies"
had to deal with this shit when i argued with a jew about the holocaust

Didn't germany have a parliament since the early-mid 1800's

So basically, it failed and got taken over by nazis for the same reason /pol/ did?

Believe it or not the Weimar government was getting its shit together in the mid 20s, money was coming in, the industries were recovering and had some great people at the helm like Stresemann, manifestations that plagued Germany shortly after the war were going down all around the country.

Then the Crash of '29 happened and we all know how that goes.

>stakes a claim
>is asked to provide support for claim
>g-go read a book!!!!!
>doesn't even post a book that details support for his claim

>The French Third Republic was politically unstable, as well.
You know, I read William Shirer's collapse of the third republic, and it's fucking insane to me that during the 30s in France you have all these people living in a genuine democracy. Yet on the right people are looking at Italy and saying "WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THAT?" and people on the left literally calling for a dictatorship of the proletariat.

Did people really take their freedom that much for granted, and not realize what happens when the police are allowed to do whatever they want in the name of state security? Then when the Germans conquer them the French collectively think thank God, someone saved us from democracy.

>mein kampf

If you look at the first German Constitution you'll see that the diet is a very weak body, and most real power rested with the unelected institution of the Kaiser, the pm, and secretaries of the army and Navy. Although the latter three served entirely at the pleasure of the former. Interestingly, the Japanese government during the Meiji period was a carbon copy of it.

>But a democracy can be bought
And a dictator can't? How many hopelessly corrupt dictators exist in the world even today? I'd say the problem is even worse than in a democracy because the leadership inherently can't be held accountable to the people unless they're willing to overthrow the state which of course will cause massive suffering and implode the economy. Why do you think dictatorships always have arbitrary rule of law? To protect the leadership and their well connected friends from prosecution.

Do you think it's by chance that Hu Jintao's family was worth over $4billion when he retired?
nytimes.com/2012/05/18/world/asia/china-princelings-using-family-ties-to-gain-riches.html

...

winner winner

In a monarchy though, the chance for corruption like that is less since the position is for life and is handed down to an heir, making every decision matter and effect the king

>The French Third Republic was politically unstable, as well.
what is this bullshit. french third republic was politically stable. it withstood shit ton of political crises. the only thing that toppled it was military defeat, which was arguably the army's fault as much as civilian govt's fault

>Kurt Eisner van Israelowitsch
>van Israelowitsch
That wasn't even his fucking last name. Why would the author make that up other than the demonize him for his jewish heritage?

Let's just ignore the Spanish monarchy then?

>jews running gentile governments is okay
>but gentiles running jewish governments is bad

It's all memes until you flip the situation and suddenly it's somehow different

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#Ascension_and_consolidation

Yea the Weimar republic was flawed but its devastating blow was the financial crisis.

Where are you getting that from? It has Kurt Eisner as a separate name than Israelowitz

Woops my bad I was reading a different list

>Why was the Weimar Republic bad?
They gave Hitler political power

>tfw /pol/ is literally the Wiemar Republic Reichstag in image board form.

Here you have it, Veeky Forums.

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They never really were put together with the full support of the institutions left over from the German Empire, and the government never really opposed those institutions because of the backroom deal aspects of things. The reformers were chained to the business owners and military, while the extremists were causing a ruckus and making what should be simple processes a pain in the behind. Hitler got an extremely light sentence, was placed in a good room, and he used his court case to broadcast his views to the world instead of the court case being used to determine the degree of blame assigned to other members of his failed takeover of Bavaria.
This essentially broadcasted the falseness of the integrity of the Weimar Republic to many people.
Alongside this, many of the new government worked towards subverting the terms of the treaties as well. Army training was done in other countries or on farming equipment, information was hidden, and they went as far as to destroy their own economy trying to destroy the value of the reparations they were supposed to be paying.
And all this time, they were letting all sorts of propaganda or misguided narratives thrive on their streets; myths about what caused their loss in WW1 and the unfairness of the treaty continue to this day, while people forget the harshness Germany itself showed towards France and Russia.
Some people use Weimar as a synonym for appearing false or gilded for a reason.

When to even start? It's a bunch of nonsense and only people who can't be bothered to check this can believe it.

>the first cabinet of Germany
No such thing. And apparently they had two ministers of Interior and three ministers of finance? How did that work? What was even this cabinet?
The first revolutionary cabinet was called Council of the People's Deputies.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_der_Volksbeauftragten

I don't see here most of the names from your lists. And calling it a Weimar government is pretty silly considering Weimar Germany wasn't even a thing yet (no constitution).

>Among the remaining Jews who controlled the sectors vital to life of German state...
I checked out one name.

>Gwiner, director of the Deutsche Bank
Actually his name was Gwinner. He was a chairman of Deutsche Bank from 1910 to 1919. I also can't find anything about him being Jewish. Those are your influential Jews in the Weimar Republic? Some guys in the first revolutionary government and the first Scheidemann government that lasted 127 days?

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabinett_Scheidemann

Of course there are more funny things here.

>Kurt Eisner, Bavarian state president
I'm sure he was really influential considering he was assassinated in February 1919.

>Brentano
Can't find this guy anywhere. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's supposed to be Heinrich von Brentano, a politician in Adenauer's government. Was he even a Jew?

>The Brentano family, of Italian (Lombard) origin, had settled in the Landgraviate of Hesse-Darmstadt in the 17th century and were recognized as Hessian nobles, with close contact to important figures of the German Romanticism, including Goethe, Savigny and Arnim.
Or maybe it's about his father Otto, but he also wasn't the minister of industry, trade and transport.

paedophilia, child prostitution, kikes negotiating german conditions of surrender, "progressive" in the modern sense

Sources;
Mein Kampf
Gasthekikes.ru
Veeky Forums.org/pol

>political assassinations
>Erzberger
>Facing trial over his implication in the murder as Tillessen and Schulz escaped to Hungary, Killinger was acquitted by an Offenburg court in mid-June 1925
>Rathenau
>Tillessen and Plaas were only convicted of non-notification of a crime and sentenced to three and two years in prison, respectively. Salomon received five years imprisonment for accessory to murder. Ernst Werner Techow narrowly escaped the death penalty, because in a last-minute confession he managed to convince the court that he had only acted under the threat of death by Kern. Instead he was sentenced to fifteen years in prison for accessory to murder.
>Techow's sentence was reduced by an amnesty in 1928. Upon his release from prison in Halle, Saxony-Anhalt on January 7, 1930 he was welcomed by delegations of the local chapters of the Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten, the German National People's Party and the NSDAP.
>Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht
>Otto Runge was sentenced to two years imprisonment (for "attempted manslaughter") and Lieutenant Vogel to four months (for failing to report a corpse). However, Vogel escaped after a brief custody. Pabst and Souchon went unpunished.[27]
>Kurt Eisner
>Arco-Valley was tried in January 1920. He was sentenced to death, but a conservative judge eventually reduced this to five years in prison. The State Prosecutor said of him, "If the whole German youth were imbued with such a glowing enthusiasm we could face the future with confidence."[6] He served his sentence at Stadelheim prison in cell 70, and in 1924 he was evicted from his cell to make way for Adolf Hitler. He was released in 1925, and was on probation until 1927, when he was pardoned.

Yup, definitely controlled by the Jews.

>Not bad
Animal sex brothels, actual drug use and prostitution reaching heights we see today. Child sex brothels, veterans sitting on the street, thieves stealing everything but money, hyper inflation. The Weimar couldnt even afford to pay the war debts and stopped, France UK, and Belgium literally occupied the ruhr valley and tried to force Germans to work. The didnt, so the french brought in thousands of workers to operate German machinery, couldnt read the german so the replaced it with French. Art became truly fucked, nihilism prevailed, and political and ideological fighting reached heights people fear may return.

So again how as it good?

This, my friends, is a meme told to us in order to consolidate power in fewer hands with less competition.

>>the Weimar government, much like its economy, was run for the most part by Jews
>People like you should be banned.

Something approaching 90% of the lawyers, bankers and factory owners in Weimar Germany were Jewish.

Pre-WWI German Jews were the most assimilated Jews on the planet, the Nazi hatred for them didn't come out of nowhere.

One simple answer:

Virtually no one who was in a position of power and influence (namely the army and the industrialists) wanted to support the republic.

Where'sthelie.jpg

>Sites "Mein fucking Kampf" as a legitimate historical source.
Holy shit, senpai! My sides!

/pol/ immigration ruined this board.

>Child sex brothels
S-Source?

It wasn't to bad

DNVP, DVP and NSDAP were the real Jews

They disregarded the empire and the stability it had for stupid things. Not even Hidenburg was loyal to the empire.

how did a bunch of whiny asthmatic jews stop him

Everything you mentioned is laughable exaggeration. You also said virtually nothing about the most important things such as passed laws, social improvements, housing improvements, academic and scientific successes, cultural domination and so on.

This is sensationalist pop history.

>The Weimar couldnt even afford to pay the war debts and stopped, France UK, and Belgium literally occupied the ruhr valley and tried to force Germans to work. The didnt, so the french brought in thousands of workers to operate German machinery, couldnt read the german so the replaced it with French.
Why did you stop here?
>The French, with their own economic problems, eventually accepted the Dawes Plan and withdrew from the occupied areas in July and August 1925. The last French troops evacuated Düsseldorf and Duisburg along with the city's important harbour in Duisburg-Ruhrort, ending French occupation of the Ruhr region on 25 August 1925.
So the occupation lasted 2 years.

>The Weimar Republic (1918-33) saw a further expansion of social welfare programs. In 1920 war victims' benefits were added to the social welfare system. In 1922 the Youth Welfare Act was passed, which today continues to serve as the basic vehicle for all youth-related programs. Unemployment relief was consolidated in 1923 into a regular assistance program, financed by employees and employers. The same year, the 1913 agreement between doctors and sickness funds about who could treat sickness-funds patients was integrated into the National Insurance Code. Also in 1923, a national law on miners created a single agency for the administration of social insurance programs for miners; before the law went into effect, 110 separate associations had administered the program. In 1924 a modern public assistance program replaced the poor relief legislation of 1870, and in 1925 the accident insurance program was reformed, allowing occupational diseases to become insurable risks. In 1927 a national unemployment insurance program was also established.
Doesn't sound bad.

Foch was just a soldier, (((people))) were rich andh ad controll over the Anglo and Mutt governments

Citation needed.

>lawyers
See:
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>People in this thread acting like Paedo's were part of Weimar
>Worship Nazism which literally put pic related in charge of a unit in the hallowed SS when he had prior convictions of statuary rape
Never change you guys

>Economy was constantly shit, in the periods were it wasn't extremist parties like the NSDAP quickly became irrelevant until the economy crashed again
>Constitution was pretty iffy with a destrutive vote of no confidence, representation of even the tiniest party in the Reichstag leading to volatile ruling coaltions and not actually banning openly anti-democratic parties
>The republic was created more or less over night, creating a republic with republicans, i.e. tons of monarchists in important positions
>Nationalsts wanting revenge for the treaty of Versailles
The awful economic situation was probably the biggest factor for why Weimar fell as it was relativly stable when the economy was doing good. The republic might have survived it if wasn't for the black thursday.

Where's the source

Still no sources

youtube.com/watch?v=WgPDh764CK4&t=415s

>mom and dad prostituting their daughters is "cosmopolitan" and progressive

>propaganda is evidence

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft
>He built a unique library on same-sex love and eroticism.
>and tolerance
>were destroyed as part of a Nazi government censorship program by youth brigades
Put two and two together. This was a period of normalization of pedophilia. The above video talks about lining pregnant women up on the streets to be banged out by foreigners.

Watch the video. It's propaganda *for* Weimar. They unironically think it was a great time. They talk about it throughout. Cosmopolitan and progressive weren't my words user. These people always thought degeneracy was a great thing. You're coming at this with full bias if you can't see what's right in front of you.

> This was a period of normalization of pedophilia
>The above video talks about lining pregnant women up on the streets to be banged out by foreigners.
What the fuck does that have to do with paedophilia?

Read the associated link to the Berlin Sexual Institute. Also worth noting is their studies on transgender assignment being carried out on whim. They even encouraged people to go through sexual reassignment for the sake of studying them. The methods to do that were even more crude back them.

Again, what does being a transgender dickhead have to do with fucking children?

The culture of Weimar was a disgusting mesh of sexual abuse and debasement of human value. The Berlin Sex Institute oversaw and supported deviations from faggots, to pedophiles, to trannies being normalized. They believed that children should undergo gender transformations.

>The culture of Weimar was a disgusting mesh of sexual abuse and debasement of human value.
that's just German culture