Separated 10,000 years ago

>separated 10,000 years ago
>one group established civilization, invented sophisticated technology, and built large cities
>the other group ran around wearing deerskin and never progressing beyond a primitive Grug-like hunter-gatherer existence
Was it the environment? IQ? Women of one group selecting the wrong attributes in mates?

what?

The further south the Asians traveled, the more sophisticated they became?

Why did southern Native Americans form civilizations but based north Native Americans do nothing for thousands of years?

One decided to settle in the most fertile river valley on the planet, grew one of the most cheaply produced food crops ever as their staple, and had a shit ton of domestic animals to do whatever with. Also,
>Amerindians
>hunter gatherers
Fuckin wot, mate?

I was going to say maybe weather and environment
But, oddly enough, the archeological sites of the USA, stone ruins and whatnot, are found on the southwest US, in Aridoamerica.

The smartest were wiped out. The aztecs killed off their brightest competitors. The maya were objectively the smartest, all gone long before we arrived. The inca themselves are associated with brilliant farming and building techniques, all taken from civilizations they butchered centuries before. Think of it as what would Greece look like without the minoans.

They did a ton of shit, it's just that no one knows about it because they never figured out writing and then all died of disease.

>ignores all the civilization of south America

>hey dude you know what would be a totally boss idea
>what bro
>let's just build a giant hill, right fucking here
>haha why not just move everyone to a hilly location broooo
>because that wouldn't be funny fuckboy
>oh i see dude, haha let's do this shit then

Why were Native American tribes so edgy?

Like this in Colorado, for example

>Was it the environment?
Yes

Huh?

Amerindians had a higher development rate compared to europeans.

Isolation and geography, but more isolation.
Also i heard that the animals in North America made agriculture extremely

*extremely difficult

>coexist peacefully with nature for 10k years
abbos, africans and wh*tes never accomplished this

Perhaps one aspect is that in the north, just hunting for a living was so sustainable, many didn't have any reason to do anything. In the south, at least one has work to do to increase their harvest, but there's little one can do to make the plentiful bison more plentiful.

Too cold until recently.

>>one group established civilization, invented sophisticated technology, and built large cities
>>the other group ran around wearing deerskin and never progressing beyond a primitive Grug-like hunter-gatherer existence
>Was it the environment? IQ?
IQ
Asians are subhumans

To be fair, there wasn't really a reason to farm, there was a huge abundance of wild foods in many parts of north america, to the point that many wonder why they transitioned in the first place.

the Americas have been inhabited for more than 16,000 years.

>stacking rocks
>sophisticated technology

>MY AS*AN ASS IS ON FIREEE

>According to the Guinness Book of Records, Cholula is in fact the largest pyramid as well as the largest monument ever constructed anywhere in the world, with a total volume estimated at over 4.45 million cubic metres, even larger than that of the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, which is about 2.5 million cubic metres.

>It has also been suggested that the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica influenced the history of the botanical garden[14] as gardens in Tenochtitlan established by king Nezahualcoyotl,[18] also gardens in Chalco (altépetl) and elsewhere, greatly impressed the Spanish invaders, not only with their appearance, but also because the indigenous Aztecs employed many more medicinal plants than did the classical world of Europe.[19][20] Hernando Cortés reportedly told the Spanish monarch that the Aztec physicians were superior to those in Spain, so superior, in fact, that the king need not bother sending Spanish physicians to the New World. Statement later confirmed in a early letter by the personal physian of the Spanish monarch who spent 7 years studying the Aztec medicine in a research trip that was expected to last 6 months: ‘"I marveled, in this and in innumerable other herbs, which are nameless among us, how in the Indies, where people are so uncultured and barbaric, there are so many herbs, some with known uses and some without, but there is almost none, which is not known to them and given a particular name".

>Their estimate of the length of the synodic month being more accurate than Ptolemy's,[2] and their calculation as to the length of the tropical solar year was more accurate than that of the Spanish when the latter first arrived

>The Aztec Triple Alliance, which ruled from 1428 to 1521 in what is now central Mexico, is considered to be the first state to implement a system of universal compulsory education.[4][5]

The southwest was probably the most habitable part of US as NA began to recover from the last glacial maximum

>we stacked our rocks higher

>asian
Nah, they are just dumb eurangutans.

Not high enough to stop a few spanish criminals from completely subjugating and eradicating the entire continent apparently.

>we didn't even stack rocks

diseases from the new world introduced to the old world:
- a bed bug infection
- syphilis (disputed)

diseases from the old world introduced to the new world:
- bubonic plague
- chicken pox
- cholera
- diphtheria
- influenza
- leprosy
- malaria
- measles
- scarlet fever
- smallpox
- typhoid
- typhus
- whooping cough
- yaws
- yellow fever

the *ld world is degenerate and rotten

With the help of local tribes and European diseases the natives were not immune to, you mouthbreather.

It's probably more likely that constructions in other areas were just made out of wood - an easier-to-use building material - and the only reason they weren't in the southwest was because of a lack of trees.

>be azteca
>get btfo by sickly whites

Hold up...what if these diseases killed only the smart Native Americans?

You'd think at some point they would learned to kill the guy with the runny nose.

Confucius say; more rice than corn mean more riceniggers than cornniggers

Also having bamboo everywhere would be pretty god damn handy for making structures and tools.

this board is legit retarded

Hold up...what if once the Amerindian states stopped absorbing intelectual and warrior-like individuals, became inexistent once diseases wiped them out, and were replaced by a new state of white people absorbing intelectual people?

you could write a book about it but to make it short I'd definitely said it's environment

Rice culture can feed millions of people (just look at how populated Ming china was, compared to europe even pre-black death).
I doubt the same could be done with Corn back before the agricultural revolution, and besides great plains were most likely not really farmable, so people sticked to hunting because the game was plentiful

>implying Europeans never did this
>implying building fortifications is edgy

some of them had writing

>These raised, well-watered beds had very high crop yields with up to 7 harvests a year. Chinampas were commonly used in pre-colonial Mexico and Central America. There is evidence that the Nahua settlement of Culhuacan, on the south side of the Ixtapalapa peninsula that divided Lake Texcoco from Lake Xochimilco, constructed the first chinampas in C.E. 1100.[10]

>(About Tlatelolco) The bustle and noise occasioned by this multitude of human beings was so great that it could be heard at a distance of more than four miles. Some of our men, who had been at Constantinople and Rome, and travelled through the whole of Italy, said that they never had seen a market-place of such large dimensions, or which was so well regulated and with such order, or so crowded with people as this one at Mexico.
- The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Chapter XCII

Spanish soldiers and colonists estimated that about 60 000 people thronged the market regularly prior to the introduction of epidemic diseases, a number equivalent to the population of contemporary's Rome, Renaissance's Florence and the Lisbon of the Age of Discovery.

>"On their route they passed through three provinces, that, according to the report of the Spaniards, contained very fine land, many villages and cities, with much scattered population, and buildings equal to any in Spain. They mentioned particularly a house and castle, the latter larger, of greater strength, and better built than the castle of Burgos (the castle of the kings of Spain); and the people of one of these provinces, called Tamazulapa, were better clothed than those of any other we had seen, as it justly appeared to them."
- Hernan Cortes, Second Letter of Relation to Charles V

We literally know there were major cities in North America

>this eurotard thinks the entire U.S. actually looks like this

this...

kek

>implying rice isn't extremely tedious to harvest by hand

OP linked a north american native and talked about hunter gatherers
aztecs and incas were fine

true desu

North Americans suffered the deglaciation consequences.

If middle eastern people managed to reach the neolithic revolution by 10000BC, europeans got it by 7000BC.

Mesoamerica and Southamerica entered the neolithic revolution by 3500BC, but NorthAmericans reached it by 1000BC.

everything was tedious while china built civilisation and north americans hunted
if it's tedious but feed your family and a bit more then why not keep doing it

Anything that calls it self the "true history" is not one to be believed, nor is a criminal.

Proof?

He only wrote it because other Spanish douches were bullshitting about how much they had done in the New World and how much gold and land they deserved because of it. Castillo wanted to set the record straight.

this got a giggle out of me thanks

>windows facing the rock
brilliant

Even then he's talking out of his ass. Every tribe in North America had agriculture by the 15th century, excepting the Eskimos and West Coast peoples (who got their food from the sea) and the Athabascans (who lived in bumfuck nowhere, Canada). Only when the Spanish brought smallpox and horses did some nations decide to move onto the High Plains and live on an all-buffalo diet.

There are living spaces behind those windowed walls.

No horses, so they had to move around loads using humans so not much could get done unlike in the old world where empires didnt expand until horses became regular use.

The north Americans were never circumscribed by environmental factors into competition for fertile land because north America is so naturally full of abundant subsistence resources. There was little need for fixed field agriculture.

Primarily agricultural life is generally more miserable than a mixed life as a hunter-gatherer-farmer-raider. We know that societies that are tribally organized are happier and have more free time than those who primarily farm as their productive activity. As a rule, populations must be forced into a state-based agricultural lifestyle.

>Was it the environment? IQ? Women of one group selecting the wrong attributes in mates?
because you touch yourself at night

I am mayan dude, we are still alive in southern mexico

t. 80 IQ
>65 IQ question
ding ding ding ding

You are just ignorant op, thats why the world is very confusing

you must have a serious chip on your shoulder

well they did eat them all