Difference

What is the difference between Classical Liberalism and Libertarianism?

On a scale in which 1 indicates normality and 10 indicates terminal autism, libertarianism is a 10 and classical liberalism is a 9.

classical liberalism was basically the ideologically of the founding fathers, but racialist, and preferred protestant whites.
progressives who just don't agree the progressive of today's methods today, use it now to mean that they're not ok with how sjws go about things but they still believe in the same shit.

libertarians are anarcho capitalist larpers. fiscally conservative, socially liberal and worship ayn rand, capitalism, greed, and are ok with progressivism and degeneracy.

The only safeguard against degeneracy is the law of the jungle.

In most parts of the world libertarian means anarcho-commieism. Most libertarian voters aren't radical classical liberalism anarchy-capitalist types. The changes that the Libertarian party push are beneficial to them, not that they like the entire platform. They like the limited platform that in the context of what they might be able to accomplish, tempered by other parties. It's also a way to claim 3rd partyism when you're actually opposition to whatever your neighbors are. If you live in a dem area but you like low taxes, you say you're libertarian and don't hate gay people, but then you vote republican anyways. If you live in a rep area, you say you're libertarian and don't want to impose taxes or government on people, but you don't agree with social views and then you vote dem anyways.

>progressives who just don't agree the progressive of today's methods today,
This is retarded, every movement in history has thought of themselves as progressive. Hitler was progressive, Stalin was progressive, its a meaningless word. And they dont believe the same shit as SJWs I dont know what youre on about, probably a Sargon """Skeptic""" no? What youre posting doesnt make sense, you didnt paint any difference.
>Libertarians: capitalism okay with progressivism and degeneracy
>Classical liberalism: Same shit as founding fathers and agree with SJWs
Where did you learn about the american revolution?
Classical Liberalism, usually supports more socialist ideas to some degree, IE publically funded schooling, sometimes medical care. Libertarians kinda have a forced hand where now for any normies to like their party they have to say "Yeah publically funded schools are cool but maybe we should cut back on funding it because it doesnt seem to help much because muh graph" probably agree with stuff like publically funded roads, but think it'd be better for people if the "invisible hand" to handled the rest

>Classical Liberalism, usually supports more socialist ideas
No, it doesn't.

How does it not? Im using the term "Socialist ideas" to encompass public schooling/medical care. Even though i hate the argument of "Oh youre not a socialist? Well that must mean yo hate public schools" I didnt know a better word to draw the dichotomy. Socially funded programs? I'm not saying theyre gung ho for bernie or anything.

fucking....EPIC dude...

Left-liberal: Goethe, Shakespeare, Hegel, Rousseau, Kultur

Right-liberal/libertarian/"British Liberal"/republican: Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Rubin Report, Sargon of Akkad, Lauren Southern

the intellectual difference between those two groups is basically non existent LMAO

got this from your Facebook, want to explain?

hahahaaaa, what a nerd

I unironically think this guy looks like a cool little butterball, the fedora is a bit much, but hes alright.
Sargon legit self identify as classical liberal, I wish i had some of those memes where its distorted sargon saying "did you just say liberal". so add that dork to your cool guy list.
kek'd

why do you have to make fun of him? Can't you see that he's trying to fight for freedom of speech and the salvation of western civilization from those damn LIBTARDS
*cries in jordan peterson*

>unironically
>kek'd

Adam Smith, often taken to be the father of economic classic liberalism, supported poverty relief and state-funded universal education. These were extremely progressive ideas for the time.

Even Hayek supported social safety nets, to some extent.

Kek isn't /pol/ newfag, its been on all boards since 2012ish. I'm kekking at your life right now

lol.

ever post this shit and wonder why you're still a virgin mate

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yes, but that's not socialism.
socialism =/= social programs

It seems someone's been reading up. Your post is NOT a shitpost, user. Good job.

fpbp

Nothing. Both are shit.

>fascism
>the movement that literally emerged from futurism
>not progressive
?

>Hitler was progressive

Libertarianism is a meme term for neoliberalism, which is very different from classical liberalism due to the difference in the state of society and economy. Classical liberals masturbated to family shops. Neoliberals masturbate to Microsoft and Nestle.

Is that you, Yohan? Get a fucking life

Not at all. Classical liberalism is like a 3. "Libertarianism" ranges from classical liberalism to ancapism, so it's impossible to assign it an autism rating. Ancapism is an 8-9. Pol Pot would be like a 9.9.

>Classical Liberalism
Every one (except non whites, people without much property and manual workers and sometimes women) should have the freedom to do anything he wants unless he damages the freedom of another one (except those other people, they don't count).
>Libertarianism
Muh Ayn Rand was the biggest philosopher of the XXth century.

neoliberalism is different to libertarianism

What's the difference?

>Hegel
>left
He thought the nation state was the end of political history my dude.

Thoughtfulness vs. Autism

Neo Liberalism is the future

Capitalism is the best form of goverment, and more importantly, neoliberal economic policy.
If it were for fascism as you shitheads LARP, you wouldn't have the opportunity to sit on your asses all day and talk shit on Veeky Forums, instead you would be working 12 hours a day in a coal mine factory.
And if you're an American, being a Nazi is against being a patriot.
Prove me wrong
Protip: you can't

How and where? They're used interchangeably.

Classic liberalism=western civilization

Libertarianism=Fedora users, agnosticists, drug addicts trying to justify their behavior, pedophiles, etc

Dude, that’s a BASED (56%) WHITE AMERICAN!

>"Brave New World" futur is good because "1984" futur is bad

that's not how you spell socialism with chinese characteristics

Classical liberalism is similar to libertarianism, but without Ayn Rand's autistic screeching against anything resembling public goods.

none

>socialism with chinese characteristics
>socialism