How is Communism thaught in high schools in your country?

Rise of totalitarianism in the 20th century.

>The narrative is basically what started as a well-intentioned thing went horribly wrong.
Ditto.

My teacher was a huge Ameriboo and just endlessly spouted stupid shit like "muh 100 million dead under gommunism." Swedish education, yay.

USA

In Econ:
>China, USSR, Cuba, etc. all failed because planned economies are always inferior to the invisible hand of the market
>No mention of other models
>No serious discussion into the structure of any socialist state's economy

In Sociology:
>Marx saw the difference between rich and poor people
>Poor people are oppressed rich people benefit
>No mention of MoP, class struggle, ideology, colonialism, etc

In History:
>Marxism is the idea that the state should make everyone equal
>Communism is when the state has control over everyone's lives
>USSR and Nazi Germany were basically the same because of totalitarianism
>The two big Red Scares of the 30's and 50's
>USSR fell in 91 because people want freedoms and economy was terrible
>No mention of labor movements in any countries besides USSR, China and Cuba

In English:
>Orwell and Huxley wrote 1984, Animal Farm, and BNW all about communism and totalitarianism
>No mention of Homage to Catalonia or Orwell's other works
>A lot of other authors who were various flavors of socialist/communist were taught as not being political
>When present, communist themes or ideas are written off as utopian or misguided

All in all, very little actual discussion or reading that varied from the usual anti-communist hysteria. There were was only two students that I knew who had actually taken the time to read a bit of Marx and other leftists but one was an 'anarcho-communist' who wanted to work with groups like the DSA and the Socialist party. The other was more interested in Chomsky's criticisms of American Empire and the financialization of Markets

Seconding this.

US here and my education was similar to this

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Oklahoma
Briefly tossed in when covering the early 1900s
More talks about the anarchists and bomb throwers in america than the russian revolution

I want mcarthyism to come back only because it labeled the most degenerate effects of capitalism as "communist", allowing for them to be dealt with appropriately.
I hate when leftists try to get the right wing to realize that capitalism is the cause of degeneration in our time, because the moment the pseudo-libertarians realize this they'll just go full degenerate-libertarian (since economic growth is all that matters to the libertarian, to a cancerous degree) and say
>well, the invisible hand said that turning love, faith, ethics, and traditions into products to profit from was good (because it made money) so obviously, if the free market says so (as in, if any people demand it), there's nothing wrong with Child Nudist Magazines and pay-for-entry public orgies.
If libertarians are kept in the dark about how their enemies are the products of the system they worship, they'll at least be quiet when people start dropping from helis.

I've never seen a post with so much text say so little.

I want every country to be norway except we Gulag-icopters and gun rights, and we take radicals and reactionaries alike up into the sky and drop them in the name of social democracy.

Southern US reporting in, it was endlessly demonized to the point of making up things. There was a project we did in history class about how to handle the USSR post US military occupation

t. leftypol

Was your teacher a vietnam vet by chance?

>Its all those fuggin capitalist guys!
>but seriously, you really need to learn my pronouns and pay for my harmone therapy, I fucking hate going to work, I have a self diagnosed mental disorder

No, but I think her father was.

hey, you ever heard the word 'strawman' before?
or are you perhaps projecting?
also
>the only way to be critical of capitalism is to be a gender-weirdo

It's not.

>its just a strawman
oh no, its real son...

In the US it depends on the teacher. If it’s a younger man or woman they just mention communism and maybe some details, if it’s an older man they can go on winded rants about those dirty reds.

me
>capitalism's profit motive means that capitalists will happily provide and push for things that are morally repugnant unless forced not too. Through a new mcarthyism we can label these flaws in the capitalistic system as 'communist' and actively drive people (liberals specifically) to fight degeneracy.
you
>wee wee your just one of those mentally ill leftwingers on fucking discord who I obsess about even though you want to oppress both gender-weirdos AND marxists you're clearly both of them

here is a picture of you. i have now won the argument

>muh rehtoric
meanwhile, in reality, the left is pushing all of this SJW shit
thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-bans-straight-white-men-at-conference-qqklhfr3w

>the left

>selling chips with a rainbow flag=banning white men from your meetings
woah, this shitty whataboutism really made me think

>Russian revolutions are covered, both the february and the october one
There is two revolutions: 1905 and February 1917 one; and then Bolshevik coup of October 1917, which imminent armed operations were done by Lettish riflemen in Peter and Moscow.

>Stalinism is taught, parallels are drawn with fascism and nazism
There is no parallel to Italian Fascism in any other way than dictatorship, which automatically - like it didn't under Fascists - doesn't mean sea of blood or entire nations wiped of the face of earth.
The sole innovation of 'Stalinism' was that terror was extended to fellow party members too. And maybe international - that is, outside Soviet border's - assasinations, of which the skeletal modification of Bronstein is of course the most famous example.

>gulag and Stalinist purges are covered
So no terror starting from 25 October 1917 is covered, of official policy of 'Red Terror' few months later; the extermination of Don Cossacks during the civil war; of the first concentration camps starting from Penza, long before the 'archipelago' was created, followed by the turning of Solovetsk monastery island's to camps for competing socialist party members, left-SR's included; of policy that was latter named 'War Communism' in general; the general 'de-kulakization outside Ukraine or the Ukrainian genocide of 1934, that put at least 3.9 million Ukrainian peasants to death?

Very briefly (namely basic Marxist theory and Russian revolution), interwar history was focused on Weimar Germany and history past WW2 was literally omitted.

You know, when you reply to someone, your supposed to be replying to what they said, not trying to start a conversation about something entirely unrelated to how leftists ideologues are mostly on corporate or global-investor payroll, and therefore in order to cut away the tumors of social decay, capitalism must be morally regulated. I assume you're a libertarian, which is why the idea that capitalism isn't perfect upset you into shrieking about communist-trannies.
Replacing white people with aliens who are less picky about their working conditions has been a capitalist game since the dawn of the system. White people are too expensive to hire compared to derka-derka men. You and your race are being killed slowly by your god.

>Ukrainian genocide of 1934

Yes, sorry, 1932.

Here in Brazil it goes like this:

Rich and upper-middle class young adults go to 'prestigious' federal universities subsidized by poor people's tax money so they are taught during 4 years or more by high salary marxist teachers that communism is wonderful, then they graduate with absolutely zero marketable skills, blame capitalism when they don't find the high paying management jobs they think they deserve and vote for communist/socialist politicians whose marxist policies make the state grow bigger while forcing more and more small and medium businesses out of the market which in turns leads to more poor people who can barely make ends meet while paying the heavy taxes that go towards paying salaries of high earning marxist teachers, politicians, all kinds of bureaucrats and subsidizing federal universities so the children of rich and upper-middle class people can learn why communism is great.

every post you've made in this thread is just you trying to derail other people's posts by accusing them of being gay socialists.
Poor people making value-signaling merch in sweat shops for rich progressives to parade around is the perfect example of how leftism is now used as a smokescreen to protect the moral problems caused by capitalism.

to add, leftism is garbage too because it ignores and tries to """correct""" natural hierarchies.
Capitalism tries to create new hierarchies from hedon.

>So no terror starting from 25 October 1917 is covered..
And you are surprised? Unless these atrocities directly affected one's country, it's unlikely high schools would go beyond "gommunisms are bad, m'kay?".

>Ukrainian genocide of 1934
Holodomor is considered genocide only in a few countries.

Northeastern US, I never read a word of Marx in high school, we learned that the dictatorship of the proletariate meant an actual dictatorship and other nonsense, but overall Communism was portrayed sympathetically as a flawed but well intentioned ideology. But we delved more deeply into Hegelian philosophy, which got me interested enough to start reading left-hegelian works on my own, including Marx and Engels.
>natural hierarchies
This post was so spooky it gave me goosebumps.

That's actually the case though, so your problem with the instruction is invalid.

>16 is only a few

Out of 195 yes

>Poor people making value-signaling merch in sweat shops for rich progressives to parade around is the perfect example of how leftism is now used as a smokescreen to protect the moral problems caused by capitalism.

yeah, which is leftists doing.

16/195 * 100 = 8.2% of countries. So yes, a few.

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>capitalists using politically bent advertising is leftism
Huh?
How would effective McCarthyism not solve this issue even if it's caused by leftists as you insist?

>brainlets who think that Stalinism and fascism are the same thing

They obviously weren't. In Stalinism the state owned the economy whereas in fascism there are still private industrialists in charge.

Not just in charge, they were empowered and put into the state directly.

If we ignore all the philosophy behind them and focus only on economy, maybe.

indeed is very revolutionary

How did any of those economies fail? They turned third world poverty ridden countries into superpowers.

russian here, don't really remember how is was taught in school, but in Uni our history teacher was pretty based and mostly talked about repressions, famine, gulags, etc.
oh, and she had a big boner for tsarist Russian Empire, so take it as you want

High School teaching really is in a desperate need of drastic reform. It's awful.

>philosophy
>high schools
I can't decide whether I want to laugh or cry.

>Communist Manifesto is often a required reading
>Russian revolutions are covered, both the february and the october one
>Stalinism is taught, parallels are drawn with fascism and nazism
>gulag and Stalinist purges are covered
Thank fuck for that. So what are your Generation Z like then compared to the yanks?

In high schools I went to:
>mention the uprisings
>talk about how the soviets were the first in space AND put Laika the dog up there
>but forgets America put fruit flies and Albert the monkey up there a decade earlier
>McCarthy was the bad guy because he was doing a Salem witchhunt again and that's was explicitly contextualized in English class as being a construct of hysteria instead of politics
>ignoring the actual evidence of commies in the state dept.,advisorships, and elsewhere
>go into HS economics class
>someone asks about command economy
>teacher says it's basically not applicable to anything we're doing and it's never been competitive anyways, so there's a redpill

Flashforward to college:
>Sociology is purely about nurture over nature. Nature doesn't exist and biology is disregarded on all levels.
>Go to English class, English professor wants us to analyze stories using "cultural marxism", "postmodernism", and "feminism"
>Go to History class, first class is about the noble savage bu it's early American history so communism hasn't really had a chance to be mentioned
>History II class starts off talking about the workers plight. First assignments are specifically on how shitty it is. That theme remains throughout the class. The teacher spends the cold war period talking about the developments of the USSR and their breakthroughs in space, forgetting the same thing that the high school teachers did about Albert etc.
>Purges all blamed on Stalin in both hs and uni. Yagoda, Lenin's, Beria's, Yezhov never happened. Pointing out the systemic purging intrinsic to communism is brushed aside, or the teacher then decides that talking about communism and the USSR isn't really necessary.

Honestly they might as well just make us read Marx's volumes and grade us on political correctness. I can't help but notice my best sourced and written papers that weren't politically correct got hammered in grades compared to obviously lazy work. The last

I was going to finish this post but I'm too pissed off thinking about how indoctrinated the school system is. This country is 100% fucked.

Went to a very blue state (CT) high school 2002-2006, it was taught very negatively. Red Terror, stalinist purges/gulags, katyn, holodomor, mao famine, pol pot, etc all taught. It makes me confused when /pol/ says US education glosses over commie crimes

In Israel you really don't get told any benefits and emphasize soviet aid to arab countries.

I have a hard time believing you spent your whole high-school and college years literally being indoctrinated to be a communist. What country are we talking about?

There's a reason the manifesto is of no real substance

/pol/ consists mostly of brainlets to dumb to learn what they were supposed to in high school or even outright high school dropouts

>to dumb to learn
>to
Heh

This sounds like /pol/ delusions.

Same here but in Rural CA, I was already being raised to have a red hot hatred for Communism anyways

>How is Communism thaught in high schools in your country?
Honestly, I don't think it was, other than the Soviet Union was the US's ideological enemy for 50 years.

This picture confuses me because piggy and the jewish banker are the same person

Yeah when leftypol stole that meme, they didn't let the rest know that it was swiped from literal nazi propaganda

>Sociology class
>English class, where teacher talks about "cultural Merksisms"
>Modern Russian history class

Dafuq you studied? Fabulation?

General requirements, at the time I was I knocking them out for computer science. The English prof was a cunt. One guy, a kid really, said he wanted to be in law enforcement after he was done, and she spent a lot of time ragging on cops and talking about the systemic racism. He was a black kid and I could tell he was super uncomfortable with the whole thing. I probably should've reported her or said something for how often she made an appoint to do shit like that off the wall. I think she was just messed up. It's funny, the only time she seemed delighted was when a girl told us her name(it was a mens name she didn't know how to pronounce) indicating that she was transgender(or some off brand gender). It sounds like something you'd read about from a fabulator, but it's what a typical uni in dixie is like now. I had a friendo who was living up northwest, I think his experiences somehow managed to be even worse.

And the history class was supposed to be US history II, picking up from the 19th century antebellum. The prof took the liberty of jumping ahead a little bit. Our quiz questions had things to do with groups like the "knights of socialism" and such. The English teacher was a champagne socialist. She'd talk about the bourgeoisie at the end of a class. I'm telling you, it's like the uni picked out hard core commies on purpose. I grew up around communists at my high school and my brother was a member of two different parties. People don't realize how huge cultural marxism is, so much so that using that term isn't even wrong or hyperbolic.

But I mean, the revised image makes no sense. Some the jewish banker in that image not realize he's telling antifa to kill him?

Communists wanted Doctors and Fast Food Workers make the same amount of money.

In my high school (American) we were taught basically nothing about what communism is, only the historical events surrounding it.
I remember history class had this funny poster where capitalism was defined as people making money, communism was everything being distributed equally, and fascism was just generic supervillainry.

So no one from ths USA were taught about Eugene Debs?

in your retarded fantasy perhaps

Duh dude. Right here

> cultural marxism

You have to go back

The professor literally wrote cultural Marxism on the assignment sheet lmao

Knights of Labor was tangential to Debs though

The point is that if you learn about something as obscure as the knights, then something as common as Deb's et alia can be reasonably assumed.

No? Not really? Debs' labor activism was around 20th century and late 19th at best

Also forgot to mention if Debs was really so commonly taught, how is he not mentioned ITT?

Then he must also be retarded.

Not taught at all. I went to high school in the Deep South. While I was at the top of my class I remember looking at my textbook and wondering why we didn't even cover half the stuff in it. Figures like Marx and Adam Smith were mentioned but we got barely more than that. I didn't realize how shitty my textbooks were until I got out of high school.

Bulgarfag here.
Same thing mostly. I'd add
>the Paris Commune is skimmed
>1918-20 Hungarian revolution
>the local socialst 1923 September Uprising
>the 1944 coup/transition are pretty detailed
>the history of the PRC until the reforms of the 80s-90s takes several pages
>the downfall of socialism and central planning globally
>the transition in 1990 has 2-3 pages
I'm pretty glad the overwhelming amount of pupils show either complete apathy or hostility. We can't make this mistake twice.

what country? doubt this is true

euscoop.com/en/2017/11/15/two-fifths-of-bulgarians-prefer-communism

France.

The programs themselves are fairly neutral but our teacher corps is quite left-wing with a large number of communists and ancoms (the post-60s, idpol-focused varieties). Your experience will depend a lot on the teacher but overall communism should depicted with a degree of sympathy.

>I'm talking about pupils
>pleb posts "poll" for over the age of 18
>41% (coincidentially the percentage of brainwashed retirees ond +50 y.o.'s geezers)
Come on now, brainlet.