What's with all these weed threads lately ? Mdma is clearly the most Veeky Forums drug

What's with all these weed threads lately ? Mdma is clearly the most Veeky Forums drug

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I love MDMA. Ive never used it but it lets me do dirty things to girls who do

They put smilies on the pills? That's brilliant!

>MDMA
>Using a drug that reduces the maximum level of happiness and satisfaction you can feel
>Every dose drops it lower and lower
>One day, the "breakup" never quite goes away
>An empty life

I believe Lolis are the most Veeky Forums drug

Where'd you get these "facts" nigga.

not him but I know it fucks with your seratonin levels. You have to use it extremely infrequently to not permanently damage yourself from what I remember...

Talking like once a month or less.

Anyone want to refute this scientific image?

Enjoy your mild retardation

Once every three months here, along with taking antioxidants and only one dose each time. My lifts suffer for almost a week after though.

My degree and a large helping of neuropsychopharmacology classes. To boil it down, the first time you use it, it causes all of your synapse to dump their serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine supply into your synaptic gaps. This feels incredible.

However, your brain's reuptake systems aren't really prepared to handle the volume of neurotransmitters and it hurts them. Additionally, the agonist actually causes the receptors for dopamine to essentially "burn out" little by little.

The data is in on this one, even once is too much. With one use, you're already going to feel side effects.

Well fuck you buddy because I did it once years ago and now I feel cursed.

how often did the subject use MDMA/ecstasy? I don't disagree that it can cause damage, but simply stating it will ruin you is false. it all depends on how often and how much. This is why I said "facts", because you're cherry picking information and presenting an incomplete picture as the end-all truth

this image shows the effect of mdma on serotonin when monkeys took it twice a day for four days

My friend took it and after 12 hours he seems normal?

my dopamine's already fucked up from SSRIs, may as well force my brain to gimme the fun juice

no source
no labels
no study
no authors

AND you're posting the image from the discredited study where they made monkeys overdose on methamphetamine

if you're on SSRI's then it will blunt the effect of the drug

if you're on MAOI then DO NOT TAKE MDMA. it could kill you

That's not how it works. SSRI moderate reuptake, but they don't burn out your receptors like MDMA. Honestly, doing Molly when taking SSRI, is a colossally stupid thing to do. Especially if you're being treated for depression. It's a lot like pressing a "make my day to day depression worse, please" button.

This is the science of it. My sister's done it at least once, and she doesn't understand my explanation.

Sorry dude. You're gonna carry that weight.

It will not blunt the effects. SSRI would, if anything, greatly lengthen the recovery time.

Not on SSRIs anymore, i've had chronic anhedonia for 3 years due to the medication.

anecdotal . I've taken it before too but it's effecting your over all state of mind / happiness long term. Very hard to judge after the fact who you would've been / how you would've been feeling.

What I'm trying to say is, you can feel fine the next day, but a week or month later when you are in a mental slump (depressive feeling) it might be related without you realizing.

That sounds about right. You'd be surprised by how often that happens to people who take those. Fun fact: adhedonia is one of the most common conditions associated with MDMA use

wish i had known that before starting viibryd, i may be in better physical shape now but i literally have nothing to live for

It's not exactly"common" and by that I just mean widely reported. It's such a gentle decline that for most it's hard to even recognize. There really isn't a lot of solid research on treatments. However, there is some promising early work being done with ketamine. There is also some LSD microdosing in the works, yet unreported. Do you live near any big city center or uni? You could probably get into a test trial for ketamine, at least.

My experience was not gradual 3 weeks in and its like a switch was flipped and suddenly nothing was entertaining anymore. I've tried LSD without any success, almost got my psych to prescribe me intranasal ketamine but he pussied out at the last second. My closest chance at trying ketamine is a clinic 2 hours away that's $500/treatment

Did the ssri's help with the anhedonia?

The SSRI caused the anhedonia.

You're a rare case, congratulations on being unlucky! Your insurance might cover it, but you would have to get your shrink to write a letter saying it was absolutely necessary to your mental health. Insurance companies don't like potentially suicidal patients.

>unlucky
Yeah extremely unlucky
>try nortriptyline
>get sexual anhedonia from it despite nobody ever reporting that as a side effect
anti depressants were a mistake but luckily the sexual anhedonia went away after stopping it.

jesus fuck my doctor tried recomending i get on ssri's after i told him i havent been sleeping since i quit drinking fairly heavily for a few years, claiming the poor sleep is a result of depression. i had only been 2 months sober and told him i wanted to go several more months sober to recover and see where i'm at but fuck me i won't ever take anti depressants now. i had a really instinctively bad feeling when he suggested them. gonna stick to good old sobriety, diet, and excersize.

MDMA is great fun.

But its an absolute gains murderer, it fucks up your immune system over prolonged use (did it twice a month for 3 months, developed diseases I never had such as pneumonia, sinus inflammation).

Not to mention the dehydration part, I could drop 5-6kg of water from one heavy night, just horrible.

Now I do it every three months, it hits you harder, doesn't destroy your body and is generally all around better.

When MDMA hit my city everyone 18-22 was doing it.
So many people fucked their lives up and still dont recognize that its from the countless nights they spent rolling.
If you try to tell someone MDMA has consequences they look at you like an alien.

So many promising young people now just doing nothing with their lives. Their parents left confused wondering why their kids are so unmotivated and useless.

I did it, but stopped after my first major bout of depression. I still dont know if Im 100% normal. Thats the scary thing about altering your brain on such a level. You never know who you would of been otherwise. Every decision in life has infinite unseen ripple effects. My life might be totally different if I never went near drugs. How I feel daily might be totally different.

But then I also would of went my entire life not knowing that such feelings were humanly possible. I am glad I experienced them. Just the game we play I guess.

Well I didn't believe it could harm me either, but until my bout of abuse I did it once a year for about 4 years. And I really do think that doing it once twice a year will have NO long term effects.

But the abuse is very real, in my city (big city in easterneurope), which is known as a party city, people do it literally every weekend, and the effects are very real.


Not considering that we don't know wht the fuck the drugs are cut with, what the actual quality of the MDMA is, if it's actually MDMA and not MDA or some other analog. Just the fact that youre using an amphetamine should be clear enough that it will fuck you up over a period of time.

And I agree with the last sentence, everyone should try this at least once in their lives, just to see.

safer to take a mixture of 4-fa and 5-mapb imo

cocaine actually helps you stay fit so

MDMA leads to cardio bro

i'm really at a crossroad myself as I rolled myself this weekend. most of my friends did as well and they are what keep me rolling

I feel that I shouldn't be doing it and have an immense feeling of guilt a couple of weeks afterwards. I usually keep track of how long I've stayed away from it and every time this counter resets I feel like shit because I have to restart it

moving to another city actually seems like a good idea because I want to get away from all this shit

Don't use it too often. Like once a month max, and you should be totally fine. As with most drugs, discipline is the key.

MDMA barely even touches dopamine

pussy ass geek
vyvanse or death

LSD is

There is nothing more empowering than breaking a PR on a moderate dose of LSD. The insane rush of power and ability you can feel in that moment is fucking unmatched by anything you can ever experience. It's like your body rises up and the hardness and power of your muscles tears holes in the fabric of the universe around it, you feel so light you could just float up and so fucking strong and heavy you might just sink through the floor.

Fuck I haven't done it in ages.

As long as only roll once every 3 months you are good. Enjoy the trip and then use it as moment to create good habits in your life while your seretonin is rebuilding. The side affects are there but usually responsibility with a healthy diet and exercise, I usually have a week afterglow rather than hangover.

Yeah, that's why it's being used in therapy, exactly.

>suppresses appetite and makes you do lots of cardio
>Veeky Forums

Nah. But it is sure as fuck fun.
>Literally no idea about MD

b-but /pol/ said drugs are bad

I feel wobbly on lsd, what dose are we talking in ug?

This, Lsd makes me want to workout and better my life, and no shitty crash afterward.

And fucks you heart up.

Anything between 10mcgs and 100mcgs will let you do a proper workout. 100+ mcgs and it starts to get a bit too fucky for me personally to do it properly.

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I was considering microdosing it

LSD is the most fit drug. Have you ever laughed for an hour straight? That is a great workout.

i have the same exact view holy shit. I luckily got out of it after my first year doing it because I can see the road it was leading me on. Two of my good friends would roll like a gram almost every week, sometimes everyday, and they dropped out of college doing fuck all.

I can tell I am a bit weird from using and I wonder the same if I could be differnt had I not even touched it.

To people who have never done mdma, I wouldn't recommend starting. It is not that MDMA is bad, but that it will lead you to take the least resistance path to happiness.

Focus on setting goals, achieving success, and fucking hotties as the ultimate high, because it is.

>To people who have never done mdma, I wouldn't recommend starting. It is not that MDMA is bad, but that it will lead you to take the least resistance path to happiness.

It's not MDMA that does it, it's the lack of education and the attitude of our society that causes those problems.

Humans are designed to gain happiness from things that contribute to what our genes want us to do: procreate and ensure continued survival. Our society has set goals for us, and things we are supposed to want and like, that we work our entire lives for but don't give us that happiness. MDMA exposes you to that kind of happiness.

What it can do is show you part of yourself and the world around you that CAN give you that happiness and in a lot of cases it makes you realise how fucked our society truly is. You can use it therapeutically to hone in on those things while still maintaining a normal life, but without that kind of knowledge, MDMA is just a tunnel into a source of happiness you never get to experience otherwise, and that is how it fucks people up.

Literally 90% of drugs that are illegal are dangerous BECAUSE they are illegal, not because they are innately dangerous in and of themselves.

Lean is the best drug desu
Diet sprite or normal?
What's the point of jolly ranchers when you can just drop a Xanax in it

kek drugs are indeed fucking dangerous do not tell these kids drugs are okay please i have to know because i take a fucking lot of them

>It is not that MDMA is bad, but that it will lead you to take the least resistance path to happiness.
If anything it opened me up to happiness. You get a much clearer definition of what makes you happy and you learn to recognise it.

Used to do MDMA with my gf at home, cuddling, kissing, talking feeling like one. We used to do it every ~3 months or so.

>The data is in on this one, even once is too much
Link to article please.
With brain's plasticity being the way it is I see no reason why the receptors shouldn't be able to replenish/reopen after time.

As other have stated, LSD / psychedelics are the most Veeky Forums drug. They have literally transformed my life from this socially anxious mess to a life where i feel comfortable with everyone everywhere.

Be careful not to overdo it. I did mushies a few times, then a half tab of lsd and some mesc in a short period of time and now have HPPD like a motherfucker.

Still worth it though. I essentially feel like the best version of myself. I'm very warm to people now and have noticed that animals and kids REALLY like me now kek

>kids REALLY like me now

he's saying they're dangerous because we make them illegal, and that if we regulated and legislated their production it would be a lot more safe.

hijacking this to ask the other SSRI anons:
I was on Paroxetine for two years, that significantly fucked with my sexual performance. My doctor said none of that would be permanent.

I stopped eating paroxetine a couple months
back but still can't orgasm as easy as I could
Anyone else had this problem, or is it all in my head.

I had a drug abusing year in 2014 where I would roll on MDMA multiple times a month and I'm pretty sure it has fucked my brain up and put a permanent veil of gloominess over me.

I wouldn't recommend it.

I fucking hate these threads.

Yes, drugs can be very eye-opening and can lead to positive life outcomes in ways you would never imagine sober, but for god's sake, keep it to yourselves you fucking losers.

Something happened over the past few years to make drugs fashionable and now every plur-kiddy taking MDMA thinks they're a neuropharmacologist. Every kid doing lean and xanax thinks they're part of some secret trapper club. Every woker-than-you hippie idiot taking psychedelics thinks they're existing on some higher echelon of consciousness. I can't even bump ketamine while tripping at a festival anymore without having dumbass psychonaut girls with sacred geometry tattoos cheer me on and try to talk to me about brain expansion and shit.

I'm someone who's done a fuckload of drugs for a long time and I can tell you all that no drug is a Veeky Forums drug. It's all mental masturbation. I don't try to pretend otherwise. Somewhere along your drug careers you'll all learn that no one gives a fuck about your drug knowledge and experiences and you'll all be healthier because of it.

This is a thread where people are talking about drugs
I assume the people in this thread care about what is being said in this thread
That's why I talk about my drug use in this thread.

Hey druggies, I have a question for you.

When I was 15, I was gonna try weed with a friend. I took one hit and panicked something awful, and felt weird some time afterwards. Turns out it was hasch and not weed.

Anyways, it's been 6 years since and I worry that it has fucked me up permanently. Maybe it was cut with something weird or something, I don't know.

Do you think my brain could be fried from just that one time? I have pretty severe OCD from before and my psychiatrists says this is probably just an obsessive thought, but I don't know.

>hasch
Its Hash u mong

But seriously, "Hash" is generally just weed thats be processed into a solid substance so its easier to shift large amounts of around. It's basically the exact same thing aside from its physical appearance.
Weed is weird because, unlike alcohol, most people aren't prepared for what effect it will have on your head and how it will feel. It's such a strange and new experience to most people that they can't handle it and get anxious. You have to get used to it through repeated exposure. But one hit won't have any long term effects at all, you probably are just obsessing over it.

Man I aspire to be you

I got hospitalised from doing too much MDMA, I was awake for like 3 days as well, never again

>Mdma is clearly the most Veeky Forums drug
Weed gives me the munchies, which helps me bulk up.

MDMA makes my heart race so fast it feels painfull, I am not sure how safe the pills on my area are, they are probrably cut with a lot of weird shit.

>Something happened over the past few years to make drugs fashionable

Research. Researchers are finding out that compounds like LSD, psilocybin, MDMA, cannabis, ketamine have an incredibly wide range of uses that our society desperately needs to exploit if it wants to survive

>It's all mental masturbation. I don't try to pretend otherwise.

Western culture is mental masturbation. Oooh we're so hyper-advanced, ooh we have the perfect society, oooh we have it all, no, we have an environment that is very unsuitable for our species-typical needs. Most drugs that are illegal, are illegal because they bring us in touch with our species-typical needs. Things that should be basic, are incredible revelations to most and it blows them away what they can feel and experience as human beings.

Of course we need to fucking hear about people's drugs experiences. Most psychedelic researchers have open e-mails and ask anyone who has experiences (especially interesting ones) to report to them about it: youtube.com/watch?v=JBgKRyRCVFM

I've smoked some seriously concentrated hash once and I almost lost my mind.
A former friend of mine also got a psychosis from smoking too much of that and became an absolute nutjob

Fuck taking drugs to escape from drugs. Work out hard, go to bed early, rise early and eat clean.

b-but once shouldn't have permanently damaged me right? ;_;

This is probably bait but your legs should still get crushed on a leg press machine before you die of internal bleeding caused by dropping a barbell on your chest.

I abused MDMA and LSD late 2014 and early 2015. I am talking extremely frequent use. I still feel that MDMA caused the most damage to my mental health, among other drugs.
I would use amphetamine, mdma and acid almost every weekend for 4-5 months. I was also daily weed smoker for the last 10 years.

You probably will never get to such a low point I did. I had to spend 2-3 months in mental institution, lost my job, lost my house (had to negotiate loans back with the bank), lost my gf, had to move in back with my folks after living 8 years on my own. I quit all drugs, but alcoholized for 6 months and spent time again in mental asylum.

I have been drug free for over 12 months now, also medication free (I was put on numerous different meds during my looney bin stay-ins).

There is no suicidal depression anymore, I feel extremely stable with new-found sobriety. I was also able to get a job after year of unemployment and time spent in mental institution and have been able to slowly "regain" my old self so to speak.

I am not anti-drug, or pro-drug. I don´t have any opinion on them. I can only say that I´ve been able quit all my addictions: porn, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes

I can confirm that it is possible to regain your sanity and functionality back without meds even if you have abused all sorts of drugs for years and I literally had fried my brain. I heard voices, saw hallucinations etc. no sanity at all. and snapped out of it.

Bullshit. Most illegal drugs are very recent introductions to our society. Even if this society has developed in ways that are psychologically harmful, claiming that drugs which in some cases have only existed for a little over half a century are vital for people to 'experience things as human beings' is so obviously wrong that even the most committed advocate would call it ridiculous.

>even once is too much.
I took it 2 or 3 times one weekend. I'm fine. At the time I was like "wow, i'll never feel better than this"

But then a few years later I was dead sober and had an even more intensely positive experience from fufilling a life goal. My knees went week and I had to sit down and cry because the joy was actually overwhelming.

Tl;dr once or twice, you'll be fine. Unless you get a pill with fetanyl in it.

>Bullshit. Most illegal drugs are very recent introductions to our society

Whoops, wrong. Most classic psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline) have seen use for thousands of years and even though LSD has been recently synthesized, its derivative of a fungus that grows on rye, the effects of which have been recorded since the Middle-Ages. LSD analogues like LSZ and LSA occur in nature and have seen use as far back as at least 2,000 years as well. Cannabis can be found in Central Asian graves as far as 5,000 years back and MDMA analogues are naturally synthesized by the human liver after ingestion of certain compounds (such as MMDA from nutmeg).

These processes can even be enhanced by ingesting other plants that contain enzymes that enhance this process, or contain compounds that increase receptor sensitivity where the compounds interact, etc.

A lot of psychedelic therapy being developed today is actually based on shamanic practices from the Amazon involving ayahuasca and mescaline which have been in practice for several thousand years as well.

Your ignorance is fucking painful.

I'm pretty sure that caffeine is the most Veeky Forums

>safe
>good PWO
>not addicting
>and if addicted, easy to quit

Why do junkies and drug users always try to influence others to take it?

Nah 1 hit will not fuck you up and nobody cuts weed. Sorry to say but you are just generally retarded

No, one hit won't do anything to you, you're just being a paranoid idiot

To not be alone or to spread the love, depends on the person and the drug

Is it safe to work out on MDMA? I've heard bad things about coke, but I need to know how good that burn would feel considering some of the other hurts that feel good

>Something happened over the past few years to make drugs fashionable and now every plur-kiddy taking MDMA thinks they're a neuropharmacologist.

Spot on

Source?
Also "Ecstasy" is a pretty loose/slang term for anything actually scientific, considering ecstasy is MDMA powder cut with random shit to form cheap nasty pills tweens take

Any answer for the plenty of people saying they've taken MDMA and haven't felt any worse for it?
>Inb4 anecdotal evidence
That doesn't change the fact they don't

This is science people. If you say you feel no side-effects, it's anecdotal evidence. But if ONE DAY YOU MAYBE FEEL DEPRESSED, it's probably the drugs you took once when you were 15.

hahaha this guy thinks eating nutmeg is analogue to fucking mdma jesus christ dude would you fuck off?

well on a physiological level it didnt fuck you up, but the experience obviously made an enough of impact that you obsess over it

if u have ocd stay away from weed, it will amplify all of your fears/thought loops and make you feel helpless and weak . i used to end up in smoke circles with a SUPER ocd kid and his compulsions would suddenly pop up out of nowhere and hed sometimes have panic attacks. needless to say i avoided smoking with him

>...wide range of uses that our society desperately needs to exploit if it wants to survive

Are you high or just exaggerating?

Yup. I go to raves sober once a month or so and always fuck a bitch high on mdma.

I wish MDMA was safer, the best feeling ever. Fortunately, Mushrooms are just as good and it feels like the universe is making passionate love to you. You feel primal human knowledge everywhere. Information and the love of your 'soul'. It also doesn't destroy your serotonin system as far as I know.

bunch of fucking degenerates. How about not putting any kind of shit into your body? there is no Veeky Forums drug, clean living is the only way brothers.

Don't worry, his info is straight from the Department of Making Shit Up on Veeky Forums.

the most sober people are always the creepiest and nerdiest

isn't it amazing how you druggies have all learned the secrets of the universe and yet not once do you ever say anything intelligent

yeah.....gonna have to disagree on that one. But don't get me wrong, I enjoy a couple whiskey neats here and there but I don't smoke and I definitely don't do drugs......anymore. I used to smoke a pack a day and do every drug under the sun, I was a fat fuck degenerate working at a car wash and playing vidya all the time.