Anyone here ever tried to get into their country's special forces? How did it go?

Mine would be the german KSK.
Fuck that.
Since it's a special force therw isn't much known about what they do.
But what is publicy known is:

The test you have to pass to get accepted consists of:
A week long "hell-march" trough german mountain and woodland, no matter the weather.
120 kilometers, climbing, rappeling, swimming through icecold water, severe lack of sleep, constant hinger because of low food, constant marching, carrying your comrades like they'd be injured, and many many random challenges and other tasks you have to complete such as simulated combat situations or simply mathematcs tests.

At the end of this week, you'll be undertaken the interrogation and torture resistance test, they do not really say what they do to you therw but it's supposed to be "the worst thing you can do to a person in a modern democracy".
I've heard from some people who know a guy that tried to join ksk that they keep you awake, hurt you, blast loud ass fuck metal musik, pour you with either hot or cold water, and show you actual videos of rape, murder, violence etc.

Then you have to perform a math and general knowledge test to get accepted.

If you make it, they training will take a few years, you will be on training for about 300 days a year, all over the world, in the jungle, in arctic regions, in the desert etc.

So you basically have no private life anymore from that point.
I wonder what kind of human beeing can do this shit for long.

Yup. During like the 4th day of Robin Sage (which is 4 weeks for those who don't know) I collapsed and they pulled me out. I kinda felt like a bitch for several months after, but it also turns out I could have prevented it by going to sick call when I first started feeling unwell, but I didn't want to, and the untreated problem became both worse and permanent. Somewhere in my brain are still all the makings of an 18E, but mostly the stuff that's with me still is a bit of Arabic

I didn't have a girlfriend for years in Batt. Most of the guys got their pussy through one night stands, most of those were with fatties. I remember several instances of the platoon sergeant kicking out crying fatties from the barracks while we laughed. The original training cycle was supposed to be a year, but with the GWOT it was compressed into 6 months. For a cycle I think I'd only have like 3 weeks at home with my family. We'd do shit like go to a range and instead of driving there and back every day, we'd sleep and shoot all day. Then our we'd be told "alright, fellas, time to pick up all the brass" and we'd be crawling around, filling our patrol caps. Iraq was a vacation compared to training, I got a lot of time to sleep, eat, and lift, had a pool with a slide for life, all that good shit. It sounds like it sucks to normie, but 99/100 Rangers, probably more, would tell you they'd go back and do it all over again. These men became my family, like actual family, and even in civvy land, we've dropped what we were doing to help a battle buddy in need. I compare my time there to working in the civilian world, and I see a bunch of self-serving people willing to sabotage the group to prove a point, while there were guys throwing themselves down to cover a guy they didn't like or maybe didn't know at all in a firefight. And this relationship carries over with those that came before me and after me

>it also turns out I could have prevented it by going to sick call when I first started feeling unwell
I remember them trying to hammer it into us, nothing wrong with seeing a doc. It's like going to the gym as a DYEL, kinda

75th rgr rgt in 2003. It was tough but I would've done anything to make it.

I signed up for the kommandofeldwebelanwärter program starting in october.
I'm lucky if i make it to EGB though

Which batt? Prob one of the gay ones

What the fuck is this immigrant shit you're talking about?

I'm talking about german masterrace special forces senpai

Do they accept non-Muslims?

know that they are cracking down on right wingers i don't think so. I was the last one

Hello goyim look at this false flag by these evil white men while ignoring these legitimate muslim terror attacks all over yurop

Wo bist du stationiert du nigger?

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werde in pfullendorf stationiert sein

Doubt it, most people here love their bench press. It dont mean shit in the military, just exhausts you.

Running, more running, more running, more running. Then once you puked you get to run some more.

Push-ups/curl-ups/pull-ups.

Thats the beauty right there.

Weights once a week. (Squats probably the most useful, and lower back)

This

You'll be able to do 500 push ups every day because it's all combat specific.
The SEALS on the other hand tend to do more Direct action missions so there bodies look more linebacker style

Went through US Army infantry OSUT with a bunch of 18x guys, so many that half my cycle were them. Another 30 or so had RASP on their contacts. Me, I only had Airborne.

I graduated airborne easily (shit's a joke now) and moved on to my duty station, I think most of the 18x guys went on to selection but didn't pass. The few that I know pass didn't make it through q course, either due to personal reasons or otherwise. One of the RASP guys I was close with ended up not getting selected and got stationed with the 173rd and got out asap.

Now, I would love the opportunity to try out for any kind of spec ops shit while I'm still in, but I know for a fact that I am nowhere near fit enough to make it even half way through a selection. I hear rumors that getting into batt is relatively easy if you have the tab, but I won't be able to attempt the school until like a year from now. Gives me something to train for, though.

Jesus fuck this is retarded

Doesnt your bench increase your push up count?

Wish I had the body for it, I'm only working on getting in the Navy as a METOC officer.

I wanted to join Rangers, but my dairy allergies disqualify me from service altogether, which sucks ass. I have no idea what i'll do after graduation considering that was my life's dream but I did get some college acceptance letters so I have that going for me.

>I hear rumors that getting into batt is relatively easy if you have the tab, but I won't be able to attempt the school until like a year from now.
The figure that was going around was that School has a 40% pass rate overall, meanwhile Rangers had a 99.X% pass rate at School. It's not easier to get in if you're tabbed, then you have to compete against their tabbed guys and their E4s and 5s would wipe the floor with you. Most of regiment were Op40s that grew up in batt. I think they're building a pipeline now with RS in there, and they're gonna have more tabbed privates, but we'll see where that goes. Talk to the recruiters, train (learn to ruck and treat it like deadlifts, shit fries your CNS, don't get goaded into doing dumb shit like ruck-running), and put a packet in for selection. Life in regiment is the best preparation for School, you'll do much better and it'll suck a lot less. I dunno what rank you are, so maybe the "relatively easy" comes from the fact that the Officer/NCO RASP is shorter and doesn't have the level of hazing as enlisted RASP. I'd still say get to regiment if you're not an E5 yet

Most of my OSUT was 40s and some 18s. Pretty clear that the military uses the "shot at selection" to fill airborne positions. Must suck when a guy fails selection and then comes to his unit with a shitty attitude, which may be why your buddy from 173 didn't wanna re-up

All the endurance shit means most guys look DYEL.

You've talked to a recruiter? There must be something you can do depending on what your allergy is and the severity

>t. Airman

Spent 5 years as a Royal Marine Commando in the British Army. Not technically SF but I spent a year of that attached to the SBS.

I considered going through the selection process but it didn't line up with my career plan.

Yeah I did, on his recommendation we handed over my medical record. I took a skin and RAS test with a doctor and he said I'm definitely still allergic and he could not give me a waiver. I tried everything in my power, but it was doomed with the results of those tests.

What advice would you give a young lad joining the armed forces? Also do you get to pick/prioritise what you'd like to go into at the end of the tests or do they just assign you? Its very vague on the site

No, actually, I'm this user I'd like to hear more on this too Maybe talk to a different recruiter at a different recruiting center. I remember one guy in airborne had fucked up hearing, and he said they just tested his good ear twice. This was when they were desperate for bodies when Iraq and Trashcanistan were hot, but you get my point. Talk to a physician about your allergy, get a specialist, whatever it takes. Even if you can't kick doors, you can still do something. Even our cooks were high speed

Signing an 11x op 40 contract this fall. Anyone have any advice other that the obligatory "don't quit"?

Na denn.
Auf auf!

Although germany in it's current state is nithing but a sad joke, the KSK is something different it seems.
There have been multiple report and cases of Nazi sympathizing within their ranks.
They actually even used nazi insignias once and some of them got fired for it.
I think some of them once said that they see themselfes as the heirs to some Nazi-era special force "kommando Brandenburg" or something like that.
Also their bragadier general repeatly sais that he is concerned about the current mis-management of oir minister of defence.

They seem based desu.

Yes.
Passed.
17 years SAS.
Now retired.

I'm the Ranger user that's been lurking this thread. What do you wanna know? I know there will be some variance since I went through RIP and you've got RASP.

You need to internalize "don't quit", and think of why you aren't going to quit every time they make you hold your rucks over your heads "until someone quits", or when you get into the back of a deuce and drive from Cole Range only to find yourself back there 'cause you drove in a circle for 20 minutes. Plenty of guys quit there. Make a friend, mine was my bunkbuddy through OSUT and jump. This is especially important, making friends, because unlike RIP you guys can get peered out - but you also get to learn shit, while we were just beaten for a month. And remember that selection is only a measure of if you can survive at Battalion. When I saw new Seals, for example, they had just gotten their tridents and were treated like one of the guys. Meanwhile I was hazed for 18 months before I went to Ranger School. Of the 10 or so guys I came into Batt with, half were gone after a year - there was this constant platoon sized element on the way out.

Know your job, and know it well. They're going to test you, and if they want you to fail, you will. But you need to put just as much effort and do the best job you can. But it's not just going to be smoke sessions until people quit. Obviously you need to be in great shape to get in, especially rucking - some guys were 120 and carrying their own weight. They play mind games, they make you cover your eyes and tell you that you can still be a great American if you're not a Ranger, and that no one is gonna know if you quit because they can't see you. Don't tell them "you won't break me", don't be a tough guy, they're all tough guys and they'll snap you if they want.

What really helped me was getting /fitlit/. Having poetry to repeat to myself on a really shitty ruck kept me sane.

From when to when? Stories? I remember SOCOM loved you guys in Iraq.

Do you rotate the designated man who was in the SAS pub roles or do you stick to your local? ;^)

Training for BUD/S. My cousin is in Phase 2 rn and is feeding me info. Gonna enlist in May. Feeling good about it but I know it is gonna be a dick dragger.

I'm currently an e-4 thats been a bit of a shitbag for the last year. I wont get asked to be sent to ranger school until I hit 5, but still can volunteer to go as a 4 with my unit. I'm currently in one of the last few LRS units and they like to treat us as if we are training up to go through to get our tab. And for the record, the guy who told me that it's "relatively easy" was a ssg who said it was mostly paperwork, pretty sure he meant at that point in the career for the difficulty. I'm starting to come to the realization that I should at least try for something a little bigger so I can at least say I did something with my time in. Going in to be airborne infantry and getting nothing else really accomplished is gunna sound fucking stupid when I'm out, especially since deployments are becoming a godsend.

Got any tips for anyone wanting to go 18X? I'm well aware of the odds but I'd like to hear from someone who went through.
>Batt Boy
Ricky?

>Ricky?
Trailer Park Boys reference?

>Got any tips for anyone wanting to go 18X?
Get a copy of Get Selected by Col Joseph Martin (RIP) and Rex Dodson

I have a friend who was in a special force unit for guerrilla warfare. They basically get trained to walk extremely long distances behind enemy lines with very little equipment and supplies. Each member of the unit carries backpacks of around 100-110 lbs, and they're specialized in something, radio, explosives etc. My friend said the most successful guys in his unit had good stamina, refused to succumb to fatigue and bad weather conditions, and always put their team first before their own needs. Also this is a nordic country.

>Trailer Park Boys reference?
Was wondering if you were RickyRecon, trip from /k/. I'll definitely check that book out. Also on a bit of a different note, what do you think of Mat Best?

Thanks for the advice. Do you have any reading recommendations? Just finished black hawk down.

Yo, do you have the field book that was made like 40 years ago that all the echos pass around to each other?

Your friend is dead on

Not much of a gun guy besides the stuff that carried over from service.

Don't follow him, I know he's a celebrity, seen him referenced/posted by some other SOCOM guys. Doesn't seem like my style of entertainment, and I'm weary of former Been There, Done That's that try to self-aggrandize and become celebrities after guys like Brandon Webb. If you find him motivating or funny, keep on keeping on.

Veeky Forums has the "start with the Greeks" recommendations. You get a new perspective when you realize that the greatest minds of ancient times were distinguished soldiers and sailors, and the people "debating" their ideas and concepts don't fully appreciate them because of it. If you're into the war stuff, there war poetry too. Seriously, get into reading, Battalion life has plenty of downtime, I'd think that would be even more relevant now. My care packages were full of books, and sometimes protein powder and food when the S4 decided to "save money" by replacing our protein powder with Otis Spunkmeyer muffins.

What's up, boyos?
Joined up 11x in 2015. I was the first in my basic training company to score a 300 on a PFT, so they gave me a choice between going to RASP or SFAS. I chose 18x at my drill sergeants behest and ended up not getting selected.
I've spent the last year as SOCOM's bottom bitch cleaning latrines at McKall. I fucked up hard.

For the rest of you guys wondering how to get into American SOF, DO NOT GO 18X.

Went through USMC scout sniper school, not SOF obviously but the hardest thing I've done so far. Shit took me two tries to pass, failed unknown distance shooting my first time.

If I decide to stay in the military I'm gonna try to get an 18x package, most of my buddies are going to MARSOC but I'm pretty sick of the marine corps. I don't know many snipers nowadays that want to stay with the conventional military, which is too bad.

I've met a lot of former Marines here on Bragg.
Unfortunately, you've missed the 18x boat. If you don't make it all the way through the 2 year course, you will be reclassed to some shitty pog ass MOS for the remainder of your contract.
I know former 0311's with multiple deployments getting reclassed to shit like parachute rigger and trucker driver for 4-5 years.

Yeah I figured they would pog me out if I failed but that would be enough motivation to stick it out for me.

It's just a pipe dream of mine, basically a choice between getting out and going to college like I know I should or staying in the gun club and living a life of adventure.

I probably won't end up going for it

sir, yes sir

legionnaire here
you think you're gunna make it, but it'll still be hell, especially the la ferme and kepi blanc walk.

also don't talk about money during the interview process, the superiors hate that shit.

What's the best way to go SF then? I just want to jump out of airplanes and teach third worlders how to do proper jumping jacks.

stretch a lot so you don't get stress injuries..

you pretty much need to get air born when you enlist. to get sf you need to be hot shit and ask for it when you re-enlist ( assuming you don't want officer )

from what I understand 68w is one of the best ways to get an sf contract

Enlist, at least then you'll have money. I wish I would have before college, now my ass is dick high in debt and I'm just as dumb as I was before I enrolled.

Got a friend who wants to join the military, but she is female. She wants to be an officer i think. Good idea for her?

How the fuck would anyone here answer that? We don't know shit about her

how to into Special Activities Division or Task Force 6-26?

no, they ruin the military

>kommandofeldwebelanwärter
Never change, German.

just b urself

I guess if that fails I can try and become a cartel sicario.

/pol/?

any of you fellas have any advice on how to avoid getting caught lying at MEPS? Especially if you were to try for a clearance.

Asking for a friend.

We'll I'm already enlisted my guy so I can either take my gubbmint money and run off to college or continue to live a life of misery

Why is this such a difficult decision....

Good idea for her? Absolutely
Good idea for the military in the long run? Nope

>ass fuck metal
>rape
>murder
>math
>general knowledge
That sounds well rounded.

Anyone here a Royal Marine?

You can't get in the SAS without prior military experience right?

I usually just buy a ticket.

NADSIS IN BLACKFACE xD

Yeah. I was in the so called special forces called spade. We would be in korpo position daily in front of the great MUKE and would eat soup there, it was awful. Then we would run to the ampumarata and sometimes if the instructor wanted, we would go through the motivationmäki. I graduated on top of my class, packaging makkaras and such in total darkness in the cold forests. On sparkle shift I was always alert and not eating the leftover makkaras at all. After my half year deployement, I was free.

Yup. Kinda.

Had a contract to go SARC during field med school, but dropped myself because I didn't think I'd be good enough to be the recon doc I wanted to be for my marines. Got my orders to Tanks as an FMF Corpsman instead and been here since.

Shit's a gut check, that's for sure. The worst part is having your mates think of you as less than what you are and appearing incompetent.

My advice for those who want to go that route; make sure this is what you REALLY want. Like you would trade your family for this job kind of want.

Hoping to try out for 2nd Commando Regiment (Australia) through the direct recruitment scheme (civilian straight into SF through an accelerated program)

Any Ausbros got advice?

Australia here

Here's a documentary of our SAS-R's selection process: youtube.com/watch?v=KY08ZXSO1CI

Don't know what they're actual training is. But the selection looks fucking grueling.

Brother is a commando. Learn to swim and a learn to run. A lot.

Huutia

I was in the 2nd Commando Regiment in Aus for a couple years after being in general infantry for a lot longer, but I suffered a knee injury (nothing serious at all, I can still squat heavy and do everything I used to do) by falling out of a moving vehicle while deployed.
So now I'm a chef full-time in South Australia for the army. Nothing exciting, I know. But they won't let me do a general infantry role for another 5 years because of my injury, I don't even think I want to be back in infantry in that time, cause I'll be 38 when that happens.

It's tough work, much tougher than any infantry I've ever seen. But I swear to god you get the respect of everyone. I get free gym membership at the fitness club down the road from my house because of it, I'm pretty sure the manager was in the air force a long time ago.

But yeah, do a LOT of swimming and running if you wanna join the commandos. Practice your pull-ups too, every single day until you can hit more every day.

Also, don't ask about the pay and don't tell anyone about your pay. All I can say is you can earn up to nearly double what the pay says on the website.

U.S operation not forces

2011 Made it thorough selection and several months of training. Lost something during an exercise and got washed out. Spent the following 3 years behind a desk.

The SAS recruitment is brutal in every country that has them. Those guys left humanity behind before they were born. True weaponised autism

What sort of numbers do I need to hit?
I'm watching a doco on them rn, and there seems to be a lot of bodyweight +10ish kg exercise

I feel i need to mention that I started to like the desk job that I had and am even going to college to start a career in the same field.

Shoulda gone for it man, the worst they can say is no. Honestly though, like not even trying to be a dick honestly, if you dropped yourself like that you probably didn't have what it takes in the first place. BRC is no joke though especially if you're new to the grunt life.

Swiss Grenadiers

It was fairly intense, real rigorous accelerated training. I wouldn't know how it stacks up against other special forces, but we basically use all the NATO/American handbooks slightly modified for most of the basic training so I imagine it is pretty much the same as any other western army.

However, I went the Sniper route and from what I've seen from other armies I am wholly convinced that the Swiss have the most precise and effective sharpshooting system in the world.

Pay says 80k a year on the .gov website ;^)
But thanks man. Should i aim for 100? 200? 500 pullups/pushups?
4min kilometer? 3min?
2k swim? 5km?

>swiss have the most effective sharpshooting system in the world

As a USMC scout sniper gonna have to ask you to back that up

i did. got rejected because they actually have height requirement which is 6'1

>serving anti-French Macron

you're an idiot

I was able to hit reliably at 1200m regardless of weather conditions using only a simple ballistics chart and windrose.

Granted it only works on a specific rifle with a specific scope using specific army spec ammunition.

We had a US sniper who came in to exchange ideas and methods an he was telling us you guys basically record all the conditions of the shots you take in a notebook if they hit and then flip through it to find the most similar conditions and use those scope settings on a new shot.

Correct me if i'm wrong though please.

That's a silly requirement. Most IIRC most guys were ÷ -2 5 foot 9. The problem with the tall guys at an age wherevmost folks join the service is the lack of coordination. This is a non issue for individuals who are undergoing retraining because they have had more time to grow into their frame.

I do see the benefit of having service members of the similar heights because it would make life easier when they need a partner to jump with.

Was rejected because of bad knees. Best thing of my life. I served as an APC driver for 3 years instead.
Got payed to lift and save money so now I'm in school for 1 year and I'll work less hours and double the salary.
Thank you armed forces!

New job after 1 year will be less hours and double salary*

For you guys who are trying to get in shape for selection, check out Stew Smith. He has a lot of good programs for free (+e-books if you got the bucks). Been doing his 12 week program myself and it has been a huge help in transitioning from a "powerlifter" into a more endurance based athlete (still run a Texas Method on the side though).

IDF Special Forces reporting in

I was attached to an sf unit as a signal interceptor. Walked around with a big antenna on my back and a terp next to me. They tried to shoot at me first all the time. I wasnt sf but ive done stuff parallel with them. I only did 3 years and went back to desk jockey because it was fucking exhausting. Still the dudes you know while doing that will be closer to you than your fucking spouse.