Martial Arts/Fighting General

>Guys I lost muscle mass when I didnt do anything to maintain my muscle mass

Hectic revelation

Okay. You didn't adjust your intake or macros /and/ you stopped lifting. Of course you're going to lose your gains after three years. I've been, and still am, active in many martial arts for years, and I've only gained from training.

What's a good mixed routine for boxing and lifting? I've been doing boxing for about a year 4 days a week but haven't built up as much muscle as I wasn't since boxing isn't weight intensive. Would doing boxing every other day during week and lifting in between be solid? Weekends for rest?

What do ppl here think about Krav Maga?

krav maga is a meme

How does it feel that I could heem literally every single one of you in this thread

Well I haven't done shit all in weeks so pretty indifferent I guess.

how do i balance lifting and bjj? i want to train bjj 3x a week and still lift at least 4x a week, anyone with relevant experience?

Cut back on volume compared with a traditional program unless you're still in the noob gains phase, periodize, don't go heavy on more than one upper body and lower body lift per day unless you plan on competing in PL, periodize. Did I say periodize?

I'm thinking of starting a martial art for self-defence and confidence (Britfag so no weapon carry of any kind allowed), what should I choose? Atm I'm thinking Krav Maga and MMA for the contact sparring experience.

"MMA" isn't a martial art. It's a combination of them. Krav Maga is a good street combat form to start with, but it doesn't translate well to MMA.

Do boxing or kickboxing. As above said, MMA isn't a thing. Krav maga is rarely taught seriously and is more liable to kill someone, don't do it.

He's correct. MMA is a sport. Krav Maga, if you find a reputable gym teaching it, does not follow sportsmanship rules, and even some of its very intermediate to advanced training can seriously harm if not kill someone, though these are typically defensive reactionary manuevers that happen as a result of chokes and tackles to which many of the responses are head twisting, face stomping, and in the case of attackers with knives and guns, although it is often frowned upon for use in reality, you are taught to nullify the attacker with their weapon.

Will finally get to put this beauty to use next month. wish me luck lads.

Promoting to brown in BJJ? Congrats. Lots of hard work.

Was promoted earlier this year, been a journey, 7 years training total.

Nice. How many competitions have you participated in?

This. I have a black belt in TKD. I got it when I was 17. I quit a year later when I started college and took up BJJ. That was 13 years ago. Since then, I've got my black belt in BJJ, blue in Judo, trained Muay Thai and MMA consistently. I've had 11 amateur K1 fights and 14 amateur MMA fights, and I've taken part in around 30 BJJ competitions (never won anything major, but won a few 2nds and 3rds at smaller regional competitions).
I do use TKD kicks now and again, and I feel like it gives me a little edge in MMA since most guys don't know how to check TKD kicks, but it wasn't worth 6 years of training, and it's never helped me finish a fight or even do any major damage - it just makes guys have to think a little bit more and that can give you a slight edge (Connor throws a few hook and spinning kicks for the same effect). I've got no reason to diss it. My Dad teaches TKD and my little bro is a former two-time national TKD champion. It's just not worth the effort when you could be putting the time into something much more effective.

4 gi, 2 no-gi

>when brown is your last chance to win big (a continental comp)

Nice. Good work, bro. BJJ is worth every second spent training in it.

Yeah, I got hooked on it when I started. You train too?

>choked out
>split decision
beta mcgregor

When I said MMA isn't a thing I meant as a particular discipline. I've never heard of someone training MMA except by learning and mixing other concrete martial arts. But fair enough.

Yep. Wish I could say I was a brown belt ;)

>BJJ is worth every second spent training in it
It actually isn't. Sure, you meet a lot of people traveling around and competing, make lifelong friends, have people take you in when you're abroad, but it also tears your body apart - basically everyone competitor I know, who stuck to the sport, had a whole bunch of injuries. I'm not sure if there's a part of my body I haven't injured

It's cool, bro. There are literally gyms that teach "MMA". Like, here's some punches and kicks from Muay Thai, here are the BJJ techniques you need, and off you go!

Lol. I mean, I guess? My shoulder is fucked up from omoplata right now, but I should be back rolling by next week.

MY tkd supplements my muay thai very well. I'm a lot more agile kicker than most in my class

I've only had minor injuries training. Easy to recover if you don't push yourself beyond your limits. Take enough time off if you're injured.

I've had worse when competing, but then again I only do it about once a year so it's fine.

You're good to go tomorrow morning/evening

>Take enough time off if you're injured
True. But no one does this

I'm just personally wary of gyms that claim to do that, too many commercialized nonsensical ones that take advantage of people. But hey, if one is legit, sounds good!

Unrelated, how does one become a boxing instructor? Is there like a certification or something required through a test?

I'm not good to go tomorrow. My shoulder was popping on rotation. That has ceased, but it's still tight. Remember this guy?

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>>Take enough time off if you're injured
>True. But no one does this

That's you ;) I'm taking your advise.

I'm not aware of any specific certification for boxing instruction. This is typically earned by reputation and experience.

Friendly reminder that Jew Jitsu is a manlet meme trap that will kill your gains.

inb4imwrong

Enjoy being 5'10

A meme. Whenever someone lists it as an effective martial art on this site, I immediately know they're larping.
Do people somehow imagine that someone trained in a legit martial art doesn't know how to fight dirty if their health is in jeopardy? You think we don't know that eye gouging, fish-hooking, head-stomping, and so on are part of the playbook if need be? You think a BJJ fighter doesn't know how to break someone's neck?
If you train at a proper Gracie aligned school, i.e. not a Barra gym where all the focus is on sports BJJ, you don't learn disarming techniques? Go watch the oldschool Gracie videos... All these techniques come from Judo (or, rather, old school JJ), where the premise was disarming your opponent of his katana.
>inb4 *real KM* is legit
Yeah, just like *real Aikido* and *real Wing Chun*. I bet someone out there knows *real Hokuto Shinken* too...
>inb4 it's just too dangerous to spar with or even show irl user. That's why no rl vids have ever been uploaded to the internet of KM being used effectively
Yeah, I guess that's why every *real life* KM video takes you to a "real-life KM demonstration" video...
Think about it. You can find legit vids of real street fights where guys use boxing, BJJ, MT/KBing, wrestling, fuck, even Karate. But you can't find a single one showing effective use of KM.
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try again sweetie, 6'1 here

What are good exercices to improve you speed?
I used to do a lot of fighting sports and my strength came from the fact that I was faster than most of the poeple who trained with me and was a good dodger.

I sparred with a friend a while ago and noticed I wasn't quick as I used to be. I have no idea what made me quick when I was younger but I want to train so I can be fast again.

Any advices?

When I practiced tkd, alot of your speed came from repetition and cardio. Obviously if you havent practiced in awhile, then your speed and endurance will be shit. You just need to practice for a month or so and muscle memory should kick back in for your body

You are an idiot. I've trained for years in Muay Thai, JKD, BJJ, and have three years of Krav Maga. Krav Maga isn't its own art, you fedora fucktard. It takes things from other arts. It does not have its own moves or style. It's a combat MMA of sorts being combined with some disarming movements, and different fight strategy that involves things that are counter to other arts like BJJ. In Krav you never want to go to the ground, no matter how great on the ground you are. Why? Because if you take me to the ground and are dominating me? My friend is going to stomp your face while you dick around with me on the ground trying for a submission.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Back to the mirror for another fedora try-on.

>I'm not good to go tomorrow
Then study (jiu jitsu)

Lol. I have several tabs open looking over things I'm weak on. ;)

Im israeli and i trained krav maga in 5 different (good) places and imho krav maga is bullshit. If you want to defend yourself go box my man.. /thread

You're israeli and fucking stupid. I just said I did Muay Thai. I did it for 5 years, very actively, training and fighting.

Same with Tang Soo Do, did it for 9 years before I called it a day. Learnt more in and fitter in 6 weeks of boxing. Traditional martial arts are a meme

Our trainer was some really good competitor who had won our countires championship or whatever its called. We pretty much learned some basic stances and learned how to guard against strikes. We also did a lot of kicks in the air to strech the legs and get a bit better balance. But yea complete shit youre WAY better of getting good at yoga or any other real martial art.

>>yoga
>>real martial art

This but unironically.

>first MMA fight
>this happens
youtube.com/watch?v=KSIoHp97kSg

I'll just stick to wrestling.

I don't think we are actually allowed on there and /asp/ is long gone to us

Watching matches?

>trained for years in JKD
Not satisfied with training one martial meme, you doubled-down and went for two? You're shitposting, right? You have to be?...

Plus those boards are more for talking about the professional/entertainment side of martial arts, Veeky Forums is more appropriate for people to discuss it in the context of practicing it themselves for their own fitness.

It gets mugged off all the time and almost rightly so. They take disarms from other martial arts like Aikido, add acouple of nut kicks and then market on how commando it all really is. They say they are "more martial, less art" but the same problem that applies to all "compliant" martial arts applies to Krav. Its all context heavy and situational: >attacker does "x" so you block, do this, then that, kick his nuts he WILL double over and you then do this, then that and run away.

To cut a long story a bit shoter anons, the rwally good martial arts are ironically the ones that get called "mere sports" now. These are the full contact resisiting ones like
Boxing
Kick boxong
Muaythai
Kyokushin karate
Wrestling
Catch wrestling
Sambo
Judo
BJJ
All "incomplete" and "sport heavy" sure, but they refine what they do through competitiok and make it work under pressure of resistence and someone wanting to do the same to you.

MMA is fucking brutal, it's basically "in da streetz " fighting inside a cage where trained martial artists are allowed to use the biggest dick moves from any art they practice, i'd never compete in it, it's worlds apart from competing in a competition for a specific art.

16 years at it user? Or longer?

6'2 here, aww did they make you tap user?

>16 years to brown belt
That would mean you either go to one of the gyms that holds back promotions on purpose so their students get to compete against less skilled opponents or you roll like once every two weeks.

>Krav Maga isn't its own art, you fedora fucktard. It takes things from other arts. It does not have its own moves or style. It's a combat MMA

Not that guy user, but come on thats ALL martial arts you are describing. Nothing new under the sun. Did you know that BJJ is actually closer to Judo than classic Ju-Jitsu? The Gracies were being taught Judo by a japanese Ne-waza (ground technuiqes) specialist but they Brazilians didn't have a proper word for Judo yet but they did know the word "jujitsu" so they called it that. Just like substituting "gi" for "kimono"

7 years

Noice

waiting for your reply...
Here's mine in the meantime.

MMA USED to be a combination of "things." Then they formalized a rule set and turned it into a sport.

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This is bretty gud.

I like Chinese martial arts and I'd kinda like to give boxing a try

Why does Wing Chun get so much shit? Imo it hybridizes very well

This is pretty damn complete.

There's something I'm missing in the Sanda hate yourself joke.

>tfw you have better flexibility and skill with kicks than everyone else you know by far
>but you've never done TKD ever
>be me

>not being homophobic leads to Russians and Sambo
Small design flaw in an otherwise solid flow chart

why wasnt he wearing a cup?

>torn labrum
>wrestling career over before it even began
>can't even run for a week

Protect your shoulders and knees guys

>BJJ
>low injury rate

Why would you stop strength training?

Does anyone train in kyokushin? I remeber when I was 14 and I got in a tourney, got weighed in and was 208 pounds. There was no one in my age group near my weight so they made me fight adult middleweight. I got destroyed in my second round by an iranian black belt. Been going to tourneys ever since.

>Boxing
>Skipping leg day
Excuse me?

what Muay Thai the God Tier sport isnt allowed here?

There needs to be a sanda joke about getting punched while getting tackled.

Anything to say about muay Thai I'm very tempted to take classes but don't think I can afford it

Genuine Krav Maga is great - it's just boxing, wrestling and a few random things thrown in.

But for every genuine, down to earth, IKMF/KMG/SAKMF accredited school, there's 10+ bullshit artists.

If they're not accredited with any of these schools, or the instructor isn't willing to show you his qualification, or if they use belts, then they're not genuine.

There's a couple of other quasi-genuine regulators, there's KMA, but they haven't improved the systems taught since they started, as their founder stopped giving a fuck/stopped training.
There's IKMA, they are Israel based and work with the IDF, but they don't give a fuck about civvie/LE shit, so it's not worth learning unless you're in the IDF and want to become an instructor on how to hit bags with a buttstock.

If anyone tells you any mysticism/pressure point bullshit, it's not real and they're bullshit artists.
If anything they try to teach you, doesn't make sense, or is like a choreographed dance performance, they're bullshit artists.

If you're taught anything other than how to punch, how to kick, passive/sp/active stance, basic footwork, basic groundwork/disengagement - then it's likely to be a McDoJo trying to butter you up.

muay thai is the most effective and versatile and not to mention applicable to real world street fighting

GET IN MY GUARD BRO

I did a bit of wing chun and it did help to redirect the punch energy and counter punching. Did my first 5 years in bouncing without a punch connecting.

Wouldn't only train in WC though. You'd never be at movie "Ip Man" level

Jon Jones can gouge peoples eyes out better than anybody else and he's never done Krav Maga

I need a wrestling coach in dubai.

youtube.com/watch?v=r8q6vTijil0
>crawl atop me, and meet your doom

Out of curiosity, what do people here think of Shotokan? It's pretty prone to McDojos, from what I've seen. But I've been training it for a long time, full contact, and I enjoy it. But it seems to get a reputation of being the 'loser' karate because of how prevalent the shitty schools are, leading to people spazzing around as if they were arcade characters.

Explain. Justify your reasons. You had better at least be a purple belt BJJ.

Does anyone supplement BJJ with another MMA? I was thinking about getting into striking or something similar

>204lbs
>14

Fatty? Im jelly though, where i live in the UK Kyokushin may as well be a mythical beast. Something that only exists in muh japanese animes.

>"MMA" isn't a martial art. It's a combination of them.
Combination of martial arts is martial art