How did the US end up with a big patch of barren wilderness filled with French Canadians that stretches several hundred miles north of the rest of the border with Canada?
Did the UK just not want it?
Has it ever done anything? It seems like a Rocky Mountain state like Wyoming was just randomly dumped on the East Coast.
Also, wtf, Wikipedia says it was part of Massachusetts?
i have no clue OP. you've captured my thoughts exactly. I suppose the problem was a matter of climate being to bitter, even for new england? maybe it was a matter of geography?
As I understand it, this is where all of the guys from Massachusetts who wanted to go settling new land went.
Eventually they'd explored and settled so much that it split off from Massachusetts.
user you won't get much, they don't have broadband there.
Basically weather patterns and more settled parts of Quebec more habitable while they happen to make Maine even colder and shittier than latitude would suggest. Caribou Maine is the coldest place in the lower 48 states, more so than the interior despite being relatively close to the coast.
The soil is Rocky and it's mountainous. Just not much going on. Whaling was big in the Gulf of Maine but Nantucket was better situated to capitalize on it.
user you won't get much, they don't have broadband there.
Basically weather patterns and more settled parts of Quebec more habitable while they happen to make Maine even colder and shittier than latitude would suggest. Caribou Maine is the coldest place in the lower 48 states, more so than the interior despite being relatively close to the coast.
The soil is Rocky and it's mountainous. Just not much going on. Whaling was big in the Gulf of Maine but Nantucket was better situated to capitalize on it.
It is pretty though.
My guess is that the mountains cut them off from Canada while the coast connected it to Boston.
Yeah for a large part of its history it was a part of Massachusetts.
But they had a referendum and chose to become their own state.
We shoulda got everything up to the Hudson desu.
Maine was part of MA, but MA refused to help Maine during the war of 1812, so Mainers broke from MA and formed their own state.
FISH
TREES
INDIAN BURIALS
This is the correct answer. Having grown up in N Maine, I can also posit the theory that nobody really cared about or wanted the land, as it is useless for farming, cold year-round, and doesn't have any usedul resources except for lumber, which can be procured more easily in Mass/New Hampshire/Vermont
The French colonies were more based on huntign the wildlife for fur than actually colonizing with large populations (which failed a couple times) and it was unpopular to come to the New World so they had to get a bunch of prisoners and orphaned escorts to swell the ranks of French population in NA. A lot of the presence here was Coureurs des Bois who were travelers mapping and hunting but they followed wildlife all the way to New Orleans where they had some people living there too. The French were faster and came before the English did but with much less of a bang as the growing English colonies.
Reminder that New England is the only part of the US with meaningful history and culture. It has the highest standard of living, best education, best colleges, best healthcare and most beautiful nature of anywhere in the US. It would be much better independent and should have broke away in 1812.
Fucking thank you. Build a wall on the New York border and be done with it. We can probably exclude Connecticut though, at this point its a New York satellite.
Also Maine is wonderful
>build a wall on the Massachusetts border and be done with it
FTFY
Just the panhandle user. We need that delicious New Haven pizza
Also the maritimes are coming too
Fine but they'll be a nonvoting member of the commonwealth
Is Conneticut REALLY a state in terms of relevance? Outside of the WWE having its headquarters in Stamford, I can't think of anything noteworthy there.
Its a place for rich NYers, corrupt politicians, and poor people that cant leave. Definitely the most degenerated of the New England six
Having been raised in Maine and lived all over the country, I can honestly say it's one of the best states in the Union. It has the aesthetic and feel of being in the middle of nowhere, but it's still within 5 hours of Boston, so you can actually do urban shit if you really feel like it. Time moves slow there, and there's not a lot to do aside from outdoor activities, but it's serene and pure.
Too much snow and cold for my liking.
Can confirm, grew up in the downeast. Real problems face the communities there, but they stay stronger than they have any right to. Great place to settle down and raise a family.
>most beautiful nature of anywhere in the US
Have you even been west of the Mississippi?
>Caribou Maine is the coldest place in the lower 48 states
Fraser Colorado is the coldest town in the lower 48, and is just slightly warmer than Barrow Alaska way up in the arctic circle.
>MA refused to help Maine during the war of 1812
Masshole here, we had valid reasons for not wanting to help the war of 1812. We should have seriously considered that proposed independence movement at the time. 'The Republic of New England' sounds really fucking good to me.
Its not too late user
How are taxes and work? I'm from the midwest, but really want to move there. I'm an old-stock American, so I just want to be around the east coast. I'm still in college, right now, but when I'm done, I'll have an HVAC certificate, a Bachelor's in business, and I might go to law school. Is it a good idea to move to Maine? Or New Hampshire?
Maine is pretty good all around, taxes are reasonable, jobs aren't plentiful, especially downeast, but there's always some work to be done, and with those qualifications you should be fine. New Hampshire has very low taxes, no idea on the job situation.
>Yale
>Invented Pizza and Hamburger
>Insurance Capital of the world
>Nutmeg state
It's not much, but I'm proud of my home state. Basically everything awesome about it has to do with New Haven. It is basically just a rest stop between New York and Boston tho and we all know it. At least Malloy will be gone soon.
I really wanna get a New England flag and fly it proudly wherever I go. It's like the Confederate flag but WAY classier.
>old-stock
oh yeah? 1666 here.
I saw one on a pickup truck last summer.
>chose to become their own state.
There's a difference between "choosing" and "forced to become its own state in order to maintain a majority vote over the South".
I think I have one man from before the Mayflower, and certainly some from the Mayflower, since my grand-uncle studied that whole thing. My mother, so far, has gotten to around 1660~ in the Ancestry family tree thing. I've done the DNA test, too, and my 80% results don't lie. The rest is still European.
Feels good, man.
Over half is before independence, too. I hope to become a man worthy of these great genes.
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Fuck that I say we reclaim Connecticut and cleanse the fucking new yorkers from New Englands rightful soil
by the way new hampshire needs a better flag
How about we take Upstate New York? Let New England stretch from the Atlantic to the great lakes!
Trading Connecticut for the Adirondacks would be a fair trade in my book
At least it don't look communist, like Arizona's.
New Haven is the only patrician part of the state.
>Yale
>Good Pizza
>Amazing doctors
>Museums galore
Bridgeport on the other hand needs to burn.
Your forgetting the rural parts.
What are all of these?
I live in a rural part and it's beautiful out here. The woods, stone walls, family farms, etc. Could do with less maga fags tho..
>Could do with less maga fags tho..
Better than Hilldawgs or Berniebros.
From left to right, top then bottom: New Brunswick flag, Massachussetts Naval Ensign (better than the state flag), Vermont Republic flag (better than the state flag), Nova scotia flag, former Maine flag (better than the state flag), Rhode Island flag, New Hampshire flag, Prince Edward Island flag
No Connecticut?
Nope. Besides my personal grudge against CT though, it also has an ugly flag and would have ruined the even number of flags.
Turn of the 17th century here fucko
New haven has a shitting of homeless people and crime though
Mainers are jerks, you won't like it here.
Hilldawgs I get, but Bernie bros are chill. We just want fair wages and legal weed man.
"""Fairhaven"""" =/= New Haven
Socialism is retarded. And being a one-issue voter, or voting just for weed, is stupid.
No more politics in this thread.
Social Democracy =/= Socialism
>so·cial de·moc·ra·cy
>noun
>a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.
Newfag.
Its always been my understanding as an Ontarian that New England is America. Its where the original settlers initially landed, the center of "American" culture, and the birthplace of "Yankee" culture.
The South had a similar thing happen to it just differently. And everything West of the Mississippi is just a cheap replica of New England values.
>New Brunswick
>Nova Scotia
>Founding Province of Confederation
>Joining an American Republican Commonwealth
Shin diggy what the fuck
Few things
1) It wouldn't be an "American" commonwealth, it'd be a New English one
2) Yankee culture, similar to that of Maine and New Hampshire, dominates New Brunswick (obviously excluding Acadia), Nova Scotia and PEI. Obviously there are differences but they belong far more to the New England cultural orbit than any other.
3) Historically the Maritimes and American New England had a very close relationship. Most of New England abstained from the War of 1812 because it would have meant fighting our brothers to the north. The army of Massachusetts originally intended to liberate the maritimes during the revolutionary war as well, but Washington and the Continental army refused to back them up, and then Britain dumped more redcoats into NB then could possible be fought alone, even with the sympathetic population.
4) Back during the war of 1812, there was a seriously considered proposition for New England to secede from the union and join with the Maritimes for a new nation, allied with but independent from Great Britain. Ultimately we chose to stay with America, but it could've gone another way.
5) The Maritimes don't belong in Canada any more than New England belongs in America.
6) Always good to have a bit of extra land.
>Maine is whiter than my country in Europe
I laugh on the outside, but deep down I am crying.
Except Cigna and the others are all jumping ship because your state budget is totally fucked and Hartford is on the verge of bankruptcy.
Your inequality fucked you. The richest 500 tax payers earn more than the bottom 50% of residents meaning you have to tax them to fix your budget, but since they basically only live in CT to avoid ANY taxes doing that will make then leave. Just lol.
Hartford borrowed all that money for the baseball stadium after being downgraded to junk bond status. Pure autism.
This.
I don't know if you really want the stretch between Syracuse and Buffalo though. Although if we snag Syracuse and Ithica (Cornell) we can add to our stock of universities. I'd say keep New Haven for Yale and abandon all points south.
We could also take Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island for some more scenery.
You can keep the Queen, it could be a federation that allows some states to be loyal to the Queen. Anyway, she doesn't have an ounce of power in your lands anymore, though it's unfortunate, so don't get twisted.
Yeah, I really wouldn't mind living in a state like Maine, New Hampshire or Vermont but I'm born and raised in -- and have barely ever been out of -- Florida so I wouldn't be able to deal with the cold.