Abstinence for 3 weeks increases testosterone in healthy men [17]. Which is good, considering average testosterone for us guys has been dropping by about 1% per year for the last 30 years [18]. Sex (not orgasm) increases testosterone by up to 72% [19,20]. Sex-related thoughts boost it too. I had a lot more of both when I abstained – my sex drive was off the charts. Abstinence can also lead to greater life satisfaction and, oddly, more attention from women. No studies for these, but there is a lot of personal and anecdotal evidence. Controlling how often you climax can also lead to unprecedented motivation. A coaching client of mine made a deal with his wife that he wouldn’t ejaculate until he made $100,000 – a whole lot of money for him, at the time. He was $100,000 richer in under 30 days. His ambition and productivity went through the roof. He credits his success to abstaining.
I had a similar increase in motivation. I tried three different ejaculatory control experiments:
The Taoist equation Your 8th grade math teacher wasn’t lying when he said algebra is sexy. Ancient Chinese Taoism has an equation for “optimal sexual power:” (Age – 7)/4 = X Plug in your age. The number you get for X is the number of days you should go between ejaculations. A 39-year-old man, for example, would ejaculate every 8 days. I followed this equation for several weeks, tracking my perceived quality of life and sex drive. Both were significantly higher when I was only climaxing every 8 days.
Dominic Mitchell
The 30-day challenge Go a full month without ejaculating, but have as much sex as you want, with yourself or with a partner. Just stop before you finish. This one is difficult to do. I also got the most benefits from it. I saw the highest increase in life satisfaction, my sex drive went through the roof, and I was phenomenally productive. I also got a LOT more attention from women, both my wife and otherwise, although I didn’t track it because I wasn’t expecting it.
Gavin Reed
30-day challenge: monk mode Go a full month with no sexual stimulation at all. Don’t even touch it. The normal 30-day challenge is tough. This one is much, much harder (no pun intended). I don’t recommend it unless you’re looking for an exceptional test of willpower. With monk mode, I still got happier and more productive as the 30 days went on, but the increase was smaller than it was with the normal 30-day challenge. I also saw shrinkage. About 20%. Use it or lose it, I guess. Fortunately, the length came back when I started having sex again.
Parker Nguyen
i got a feeling that lots of people here will start nofap today
Christian Wood
and probably end nofap within a few hours of starting.
Samuel Harris
gotta start somewhere right
Kevin Richardson
This is actually fucking interesting. I noticed before that I feel best when I fap every 3/4 days. Fapping more often makes me restless and annoying, going weeks without fapping makes me nervous and paranoid. This equation is legit senpai.
Jack Sullivan
that stuff is fkn legit im tellin ya
Ethan Parker
what book is this.
Zachary Martinez
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Jayden Sullivan
>No mention of Nikolai Tesla
>No mention that by day 12 standards are so rock bottom I'll slam a fatty, regret it the moment I'm done, meanwhile she's texting she wants to be my GF that same night and gets pissed when I say no.
No thanks op My second point ALWAYS happened
Luke Roberts
its Nikola.
Thomas Hughes
Have some self control, Jesus
Dylan Richardson
>letting your emotions control you enjoy the aids m8
Benjamin Phillips
OH MY GOD THIS IS LIFE CHANGING!
Not.
Bunch of baseless bullshit.
Owen Perez
That formula is actually very accurate. If I fap more I feel lazy and I get agitated easily if I go for more what this recommends fapping kind of consumes my thoughts to the point where I lose productivity because I cant focus
Dominic Stewart
Give it a shot, it doesn't cost anything.
My life didn't change but I became more and more aware of how miserable I am, so I started making changes.
Adam Barnes
it truly is life changing. however everyone interprets this information differently because of his emotional bias
your emotional bias is obviously obstructing you
i wish you the strength to G R O W
ikr
Anthony Diaz
>fap to degenerate chastity femdom shit >feel great after
Feeling bad after wanking is literally just low self esteem and guilt. Did you grow up in an environment where sexual urges were shamed?
I blast them out daily and just feel great after, like a load of tension's gone.
Gavin Jenkins
>Did you grow up in an environment where sexual urges were shamed? Most of this board is American, so yes, most people here grew up in an uneducated puritan country.
Thats why we also have so many uneducated people here who think genital mutilation is a good idea.
Adrian Williams
I felt that was the case but didn't want to make any assumptions.
Ryan Baker
Hitler fapped for the first time in April, 1945.
Logan Long
If you actually go look at all these 'studies' and who are running it, its all extremist religious Americans.
America has a long history of attempting to censor sex, and its still true today. Hell you just have to look at how movies are rated where shooting someones balls off is fine but showing their balls makes you R rated.
And again that ties into all their barbaric practices like circumcision, something entirely done to diminish sexual urges.
Lincoln Bailey
>is literally just low self esteem and guilt >is literally just >is literally >literally
Men get a much sharper increase in prolactin after ejaculating – that’s what extinguishes your drive and makes you want to take a nap post-sex
thank god everytime a neckbeard spews his unwanted opinion, there are facts to show him how much of a tard he is
James Clark
Boy if only that actually stated anything relevant at all!
>Animal data >but may >might >Alternatively
Lucky science isn't dictated by a single bullshit journal, but hundreds of studies compiled into a coherent picture of reality
Good luck next time you use NCBI to try and make a point, maybe you'll actually post something worthwhile.
Adam Lopez
And how does that make you feel "bad"?
Zachary Jackson
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov Posting this link is like using a food analogy; it proves you're a complete fucking moron.
There are also studies that "prove" autism is given through vaccines, that global warming isnt real and that Trumps hair isnt fake. Boy oh boy that must make them true because its on paper in one of the worst peer reviewed databases of all time!
Blake Cook
Thanks for posting!
Asher Roberts
A lot of people who think no fap is worth shit have low self esteem and feel guilty after masturbation. Extinguishes what drive? My immediate drive for more sex? Nigger i'm not masturbating before heavy lifting or sprinting or having sex. Feeling comfy and a bit sleepy at home after work is fine.
Try not doing it 20 times a day hunched over in darkness as the tissue piles grow around you and the food on your used crockery starts to rot.
Honestly feel so much better after cranking one out after exercise.
Oliver Gray
> Concerning the biological relevance of acute prolactin alterations after orgasm, prolactin might serve as a neuroendocrine reproductive reflex for peripheral reproductive organs. Alternatively, prolactin may feedback to dopaminergic neurons in the central nervous system and thereby modulate sexual drive and satiation.
OH SHIT NIGGER I DON'T WANT SEX AGAIN IMMEDIATELY AFTER ORGASM STOP THE PRESSES
Elijah King
I agree we should just believe whatever we want, gravity doesn't exist, world is flat, weed has no side effects, amazing.
Hudson Hill
>didn't even read the link
It literally just says the hormone makes you not want to have sex again for a little while.
Its acute, not chronic. So its actually supporting the argument that orgasm has a temporary effect on sexual satiety, rater than some sort of cumulative chronic disorder of never wanting sex with a woman because you're masturbating.
John Ramirez
its okay folks, we feel for you. not everybody can make it.
to the rest in this thread who realize the power of sexual transmutation, keep growing S T R O N G !
Mason James
you are welcome!
Hudson Kelly
I concur.
Also from personal experience, I tried having sex for like a week without ejaculating (with my now ex-gf) and fuck, I could have gone all night. I was horny all the time, but in a very energetic and powerful way. I felt myself being much more in control after a few sessions too.
And overall, this shit is simply worth a try. But arguing on this here mongolian book binding forum is sometimes like taking yt comments seriously
Blake Martinez
Not that user but,
>Nofap doesn't work >You didn't not fap hard enough
>You're fat >I'm not fat, I'm big boned
>I dont believe in god >Then you dont believe hard enough
The same arguments have been made so many times and personal bias wouldn't be a thing if people used actual studies and sources to back their claims.
Jack Lewis
>constant edging without release >WOW GUYS I WAS HORNY ALL THE TIME
Fucking lmao, no shit you retard.
Hoy shit, is this just the same person? Its like a failed motivational speaker shilling their own 12 step program.
Caleb Gutierrez
Marginal and temporal charges in testosterone levels won't do shit. If you have a severe hypoglycemia your GH levels will skyrocket, that doesn't mean you will grow taller by almost fainting daily.
Henry Powell
If he had fapped he could have. Do you even read?
Noah Jenkins
Who talked about growing taller? The shrinkage was most likely about dick size
Nicholas Rodriguez
Nah man he's likening the nofap pseudoscience to someone saying that hypglycemic people keep growing taller because of elevated hormone levels.
Jackson Taylor
Reminder that (((nofap))) is a jewish meme designed to fuck you over. Abstinence builds up your test for 1 week, then it starts to normalize and your benefits go down the train. Prolonged periods of nofap can instead lead to ED when you're actually getting pussy leading to awkward moments.
tldr dont fap excessively, dont hold for longer than 1 week
Jaxon Nguyen
This.
Remember that excessive fapping and porn reliance can lead to:
Death grip induced ED Pornography induced ED (real life doesn't cut it any more)
Just don't be a mong. Don't feel bad about what turns you on. Jerking it once a day is perfectly fine. Just don't turn into a horny high schooler who faps 10 times a day.
Christian Gray
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Ryder Fisher
thanks for repeating after me (im op)
keep this thread alive boyos
Nolan Kelly
bump
Joshua Rogers
bump
Jaxson Hughes
I did nofap for 30 days once, at the end there was no change in anything, if anything i felt a little worse, decided to do it another 30 day, still nothing, now im back on my usual schedule of averaging 1 fap a day.
I did make a change reseantly though, since my fapping sessions have been getting longer I decided to cut them down from >1h to 15 minutes at a time.
So heres my expert opinion, nofap is useless for the average person, but if you have a problem spending too much time or money on fapping, setting up some limitations may help you.
Ayden Barnes
i'm on nofap and i've noticed positive changes so i like it. i also do not care whether or not anyone else does it. i am aware that results are dependent on a variety of complex factors and that the evidence for or against no fap and no porn is inconclusive.
Daniel Evans
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Liam Richardson
So every 3.25 days? How do i manage that, or should I just go for 3?
Levi Gonzalez
you can only fap every 3rd day at 3.25AM
Jacob Thompson
>something entirely done to diminish sexual urges No, they also use it so that they can harvest healthy tissue from infants so that they can sell it commercially for use in medical products and cosmetics for rich women.
Angel White
pretty sure the best thing about nofap is the part where you stay away from porn that shit really screws with your mind
Yes and this is all for a tiny increase in test that doesn't last?
Pic related it's OP
Charles Murphy
Finally some more true info on benefits of nofap. Fapping kikes btfo and stay degenerate we're here ascending. Thx for posting senpai.
Lucas Barnes
>"a man who has discovered how to increase the vibrations of thought to the point where he can freely communicate with sources of knowledge not available through the ordinary rate of vibration of thought."
This is psycho nonsense. Whoever wrote this has mental illness if they believe it.
>Hill openly described visits from spirits in Chapter 12 of his book, Grow Rich! With Peace of Mind
Napoleon Hill was a self help book writer. That's all he ever had success with. You shouldn't jerk off too much. You also shouldn't listen to a manic who never actually achieved anything.
this is true
Ryder King
This is wrong cause people get riled up from a bunch of crazy shit that doesn't matter to them at all, that's what the internet is all about now. shitposting is just a way for them to feel better about themselves.
Oliver Howard
Make sure to enforce nofap on your children.
Anthony Jackson
starting noweed and nofap right after I smoke and fap for the last time in 30 days
Charles Long
NO
QUIT NOW
Levi White
too late just fapped now for the joint
Zachary Lewis
This. regular ejaculation lowers the risk of prostate cancer. No porn is legit. No fap is a meme
Levi Parker
>>No mention that by day 12 standards are so rock bottom I'll slam a fatty, regret it the moment I'm done
man i just did this last week, doing no fap may and im going to do it again tomorrow my self control is burned up on nofap itself abstaining from pussy (even fat) is beyond me
Lucas Howard
>not smoking then fapping
doing it wrong
Leo Hall
>was getting laid every other day for the last decade of my life
Dylan Parker
Every time I see no fap threads it reminds me of articles my mom would send me from the magazines she's read, "lose 30 lbs by drinking lemon juice, get abs for summer with this one simple trick," and so forth. Instead of obsessing with how often you tug why don't you go fucking lift something.
I shoot ropes once a day at minimum, rep 3pl8 on bench, and love every day I spend on this Earth.
Josiah Rivera
Day XX NoFap
Every girl I walk past stares at me Everyone wants to talk to me Everybody wants to give me things Opportunity abounds everywhere Massive Abundance everywhere I go Literally unstoppable Look girls right in the eye they blush and look away Look guys in the eye they look at the ground, 100% intimidated or never even make eye contact Sounds are crisper Vision is sharper Smell is amplified Hearing is extra clear Touch is enhanced Like a permanent MDMA trip Maximum power.
Nathaniel Gray
nofap is a good and bad thing.
If you spend a majority of your time indoors, no contact with humans, on Veeky Forums fapping, then nofap will help you.
If you have a job, friends, good grades, hobbies, or any combination, then nofap will hurt you.
By giving the power of "happiness" or some sort of solution to your problems to something like nofap, you are merely passing the bill. If youre a college student with a semi-normal life and think nofap will increase your chance of getting laid, you're wrong. Its only when you are a college student who stays in his room all day to literally fap is when this helps.
Only typing this much because this is the kinda shit I needed to hear back then. I thought I had a problem when I fapped every night before going to bed. That shit is not a problem.
Jayden Kelly
This actually happens, fappers will never know.
Robert Gomez
Wrong kiddo. Nofap just gives you more life force energy so it can literally improve anyone's life.
Noah Turner
>If youre a college student with a semi-normal life and think nofap will increase your chance of getting laid, you're wrong
if youre semi normal in college, no fap will make you want to go out at EVERY OPPORTUNITY in order to meet people or get laid. when i stop fapping for a bit i rarely ever not feel like going out
Brandon Bailey
And nofap isn't just about making you feel guilt and shame lol seems like u focused on the wrong aspects of it
Jace Long
Nofap just makes you better in general
Caleb Anderson
yeah but the thing that gets me about OP is that it says no ejaculation at all
like, if i get laid does it ruin everything? if so, why not just avoid women altogether or go full bible and only have sex for procreation
Chase Gray
Did this nigga even run a two sample t test baka
Hunter Taylor
u can practice dry orgasms
Andrew Rivera
Let me tell you my experience with a 3 week nofap.
It's bullshit. I have no proof but I'm pretty sure my test levels tanked.
>23 yo >sexually active >fap everyday once or twice minimum. (rarely 0) >Gets turned on at sight of something attractive and imagination, without touching my dick > some days I go crazy and fap 8 or more >morning wood quite often
NoFap - no sex > no fucking boners after like 5 days While on reddit I'm subbed to many NSFW subs and I always just glanced over them, I didn't get turned on whatsoever. I kept looking at porn for a good 10 min without any stimulation and my dick was as limp as ever. > no sexual thoughts whatsoever, at some point I felt like I had to provoke it. > went out clubbing thinking you're in primal mode now or some shit, nope - same as always sex wasn't even on my mind.didnt care to hit on anyone, Night was average af.
This was MY experience, never doing "NoFap" again. The only thing I did learn from this is that I shouldn't always fap because I'm bored. Find something better to do.
Eli Johnson
>tfw when an 8 year old should be ejaculating 4 times a day
Dominic Cook
delete this goy
Zachary Fisher
This desu. My panda backlog is enormous and I can't stop downloading Fakku rips.
Logan Green
>mongolian book binding forum Fucking kek
William Thomas
If you fap, you become pic related
Lucas Peterson
you´re welcome!
Justin Jackson
Mantak Chia also wrote a lot on this. The cultivation of sexual energy is a taoist teaching, and if you want to look further into this, I recommend checking out his books OP
Liam Baker
sounds great gonna check it out thanks
lol keep sleeping
Joseph Hill
>not fapping >more attention from women Am I supposed to yell out: "I just came!" Everytime I jerk it off? Can't see any other reason why women would pay me more attention when I don't choke my dick for a few days.
Kevin Gray
just looked up how to do this. it requires fapping and many failed attempts to do right, but otherwise it seems cool
ill try it after no fap may
Easton Perry
This man has >ASCENDED
Michael Phillips
>mfw 2 more days till i can bust again
Carson Gutierrez
stop making nofap threads, let people wank there life juice away. Be happy they do. More power to you! Nothing more fun than when the competition is literally fucking themselves over
Jordan Russell
i'll wank how much I want, don't tell me what to do with your stupid tard science boi logic.
I don't fap cause I'm not a piece of shit degenerate that needs to cum in my hand
When I cum I cum with or in a girl. Like a real fucking man
fucking wanking kids for fuck sake losers
Carter Perez
Veeky Forums is a brotherhood. We empower each other to eradicate degeneracy from this world.
Connor Morales
I don't think I have porn related problems in the sense that I can function fine sexualy without yet I think I'm addicted to it. Not eating shit food was hard to cut out but I ended up being strong enfough to do it. Not fapping seems way to rough as a 20m without gf.
Robert Reed
i have not played with my cock for 2 days
Carter Lopez
Nofap is useless if you don't use your drive to have sex. If you did nofap but didn't have sex, you failed and your experiences are void. Nofap is honestly just a lot of old knowledge about sex and drive resurfacing into the contemporary consciousness. Sperm is the water of life and willfully and consciously getting rid of it on a regular basis simply because you've penciled it into your scheduled on a 15 minute window is doing yourself a lot of disservice. Doing nofap and not using your drive and then complaining you got no benefits is a lot like fatties who 'give up' cola but binge on other non-carbonated sugary drinks and say they didn't lose any weight. Sexual energy is real and it can be focused like anger can be productively focused as well. Or it can be thrown away into a rag at the end of fifteen minutes.