/supplements thread/

They're both pretty common in a good daily diet. Studies show that people benefit from having them as opposed to not having them, but no benefit from a surplus of them. I only take them on fasting days.

as you can see i put ZMA as a "fun" or non-essential, ZMA contains Zinc, Magnesium and usually something like Vitamin B6 as can be seen in the Optimum Nutrition one

If you get deep enough into the supplement game youve got to get bloodwork done to check the individual levels of things - i wasnt lacking Zinc, Magnesium or any Vitamin B6 so i dont take it as an essential

Squat with proper form and you won't get knee pain brah

There isn't any harm in trying; I started taking it about two weeks ago so I haven't seen results yet. For all I know it could be a meme but I'll try anything that will make my joints feel better

for anons sitting at your desk for most of the day: sitting cross-legged isn't harmful short-term, but when you do it all-day everyday for 20+ years, it wears them down.

Good sitting posture isn't only for your back, it takes stress off your knees too.

best pain relief is rest. rest that bitch for a week. if you need to, take 2

I had a fucked up elbow last summer from playing tennis every day. I took glucosamine for about 2 months and the pain was completely gone. The only thing was that I dealt with insomnia during those 2 months as a side effect of these pills.

>The only thing was that I dealt with insomnia during those 2 months as a side effect of these pills.

woah. I've never heard of this happening. Sounds awful. How common is that?

Also, to reassure this was a real elbow problem, it gave me hell throughout high school tennis which was 5 years ago. The elbow problems never actually went away, but I wasn't playing tennis for quite some time between those years so it was never an issue until I got back into it last year.

I wasn't too sure that it was a result of the pills or not so I did a little digging online and found out that it in fact is a side effect. I don't really know how common it is. Whether it would happen to you or not is all a gamble.

Glucosamine,chondrotin,MSM,hyaluronic acid,etc., all those supplements people claim help the joints are just idiots. "I TOOK SUCH AND SUCH AND FIVE MONTHS LATER I FELT BETTER". Couldn't have been the five fucking months of slow healing, nah, it was the pills. The parts of joints that are commonly injured have little or no blood flow. There isn't a supplement you're going to take that's going to affect these areas unless you're fucking overdosing on them. That includes NSAID's. If you have a ligament issue, a meniscus tear or inflammation, there isn't anything you can fucking do except rest and proper treatment. RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) is also fucking bullshit. RICE prolongs injuries and creates chronic problems. RICE should only be used immediately after an injury to slow the first stages of swelling. Afterward, swelling is beneficial, and you should start to stretch and massage the area however you can without causing pain, and apply wet HEAT to the area several times a day.

If you are having knee pain:
If it's on the SIDE of your knee and not directly under the patella, it's likely an easy fix
Begin rolling your muscles and ligaments - Don't use a floor roller, those suck, get a rolling stick
If it's UNDER your patella, you may have a simple tracking problem due to muscle imbalance or
tightness in your ITB. ROLL YOUR FUCKING LEGS, stretch, and then do some strength training
If you roll your legs and the pain, clicking, whatever magically goes away for 10 minutes? Guess what? You don't have a real knee injury, you just need to roll, stretch, and strengthen daily.

If rolling doesn't affect your pain, see a Dr for X-rays so they can see if there's any damage to the cartilage. If not:
ROLL

Reminder: If a doctor recommends you take ibuprofin to treat an injury, find a new doctor, or ask to see a
sports medicine specialist who knows the basics of how joints receive nutrients through fluid sac membranes.

Melatonin isn't essential but I'll be damned if I haven't been having the best sleep of my life since I started taking it. About 15 min after I take about 10mg I'm ready to pass out. No more lying awake in bed waiting to fall asleep. Also I wake up without an alarm now 7 am everyday.
The carry over to energy levels throughout the day is unreal.

Also I would say zinc is essential for the test gains.

Currently taking
>Creatine
>Whey/casein
>Zinc
>Vit d3 5000 IU
>4g fish oil
>10g melatonin right before sleep

>day 4 of 500mg DNP
>stopped sweating completely

whats going ON

do you also run after your workout? I noticed after lifting, if i run, my kness get real fucked up. I just to those HIIT things now

Melatonin eventually stops working. You're going to really fuck your ability to sleep long-term. Seriously. Read about the supplements you're taking. Vitamin D? Really? What fucking idiot told you that you need vitamin D? The sticky? Veeky Forums is a terrible source of nutrition information. Irony recognized.

Well what is a good source of nutrition information then?
And can you provide any source for melatonin harm?

>Set up a good sleeping schedule and routine
>Fuck up your ability to sleep
What kind of logic is that? And how is vitamin d not good? I work for most of the day inside and only get one hour of sunlight when I walk my dog.

It's under my kneecap. I'll try roll and stretch my ITB.

Nah my left knee has been whack for years so I avoid running. I usually swim for cardio. It sucks cause I want big quads but high-bar squats will almost always trigger my knee pain within varying degrees of footing positions. I noticed warming up on those gay elliptical machines make my quads burn so I might try longer sets on those until I can figure out what's what with my knee - gonna make an appointment for x-rays.