If we accept that there is no clear-cut good and evil, and that victory is written by the winners...

>with one ball
Propaganda.
>shit on democracy
bad?

There is such a thing as incompetence, and they will always be remembered as a shining example.

>ummm guys did you know that there is no good or bad because winners rewrite history
>oh and nazis were actually good guys
jesus fucking christ i wish all the wehraboos could just fuck off back to pol you're so fucking toxic

that they were weak

That they fall into what most people percieve as evil?

That Hitler was trying to prevent the NWO.

That you're a cuck

>Victory is written by the winners
What did you mean by this? Much of what we know about WWII is from German historians, German documents, and German veterans

>victory is written by the winners

>If we accept that there is no clear-cut good and evil

we don't Nazis were clear-cut evil...so were the Bolsheviks.

>If we accept that there is no clear-cut good and evil,
post modern garbage from post war french pedophiles who were trying to justify their perversions

>and that victory is written by the winners,
dishonest and psuedo-maxim that stormfags spout out every time they are confronted about having no actual evidence of any of their revisionist memes

I thought it was claiming everyone and everything arguing against them is Jewish and/or Communist.

That they lost.

So what the US did to Native Americans?

The stipulations of a state being evil is if the state is wildly corrupt or maybe if it exercises Sternian Egoism.
The state has the right to whatever it thinks it has the right to(as long as it's done for an ideological purpose), its your job to oppose it as an unjust violation of rights, don't just cry that it's "ebul :(".
That said, Third Reich wasn't evil.

That the Nutzis sucked ass even by their own logic and that of their apologists.

That it is still shitty overall because of all the reasons that it lost. It also tells me that you are a shitty historian.

Indeed, as did the Spabish, Portuguese, French, English, Dutch, Russians, and there after.

If there is no good and evil just social darwinism than Nazism and the German race got btfo'd by superior ideologies and people because they and their system were more fit to survive.

Sure the United States had unsanctioned massacres of Natives but genocide was not the mind set. There was a large push for integration into the American public population where as the reason the Nazi's are so hated is because over the span of five years, six million people faced execution, worked to death, starved or died of sickness all by a means to an endgame that proposed total eradication of peoples.

Why don't you learn for yourself?

Talking of Peace and War
youtu.be/gbwIvh3WGgU

youtu.be/ikgf9Ea2sQw
Declaring war on USSR

youtu.be/Dh3vskNCDKc
Declaring war on England

youtu.be/50uRdK76ZQM
Talking about Warmongers

youtu.be/niiiHjIQu8s
Declaring war on USA

youtu.be/pM1h_2ujsvs
Declaring war on Poland

youtu.be/30IXvVBZLgY
On the National Socialist Revolution

youtu.be/T7O6PBL-Rbg
Another on the Revolution

youtu.be/iNbd_DuKiTo
Talking about Liberalism and it's effect on German culture

Talking about what is Europe
youtu.be/rqu3bndYiYg

Talking about the Synagogue of Satan and Banking
youtu.be/MCNHaLziBQw

youtu.be/lo5-SAzxJaA
Goebells final speech

Hitler final speech
Https://youtu.be/5Bc_zvcsuus

Benjamin Freedman on WW1 and WW2
youtu.be/aY90MSkQtrE

Ukrainian woman describing German invasion of USSR
youtu.be/pmCUaNRS7ZQ

Leader of Belgium during WW2 talking of german racialism
youtu.be/Enpdpv5PXac

Multicultural SS and Wehrmacht
youtu.be/YLz7PD8od8w

Mosley on Globalism
youtu.be/Isq6YltjRRU

Rockwell on American Natsoc
youtu.be/aAwgIwjhEvI

youtu.be/KJN40-npDR4

You mean because the public is brainwashed since 3rd grade?
> Spend 2 weeks covering WW2 in American schools
> Spend 3 weeks on the Holocaust in American schools

> History channel, hollywood all have new propaganda every year, despite the war ending over 70 years ago and the so called holocaust being a relatively minor genocide in human history even if it did happen. Neither the most casualties, nor the most recent, yet the only one which is illegal to question.

>started a war that ended up killing 50+ million people
>created a system of genocide on the industrial scale

I don't know of anyone who would say that was anything other than evil.

>CRY FOR US GOYIM!
Fuck off jew you people have caused the most genocides in human history.

Here is another one you can add to your list:

youtube.com/watch?v=11fl8AykFqo
Talking about annihilating the Jews in Europe if war breaks out.

Imagine being this stupid, to not investigate anything and to blindly believe what the public school system and tv tells you.

You would have persecuted Copernicus.

Pure good and evil are like the speed of light. It's impossible for you to reach it. It's possible, however, to get very close it. I'd say the Nazis got pretty close to pure evil

Why does he say that the Jews are planning a Communist takeover of the world?

Looks like you are missing half the picture, friend.

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The Germans pushed a ton of paper. Records on everything from military manufacturing to the führer's drug regimen.

youtu.be/XLvOBPijaqE

youtu.be/pYvbIAXveVk

it tells us exactly what you just wrote
evil doesn't exist, its always a matter of perspective

>social darwinism applies when the entire world fights a single nation and still manages to get BTFO until the last year
lol okay

That quote is not Goebells.
It is from Mein Kampf, as follows.

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
—Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]

>Why does he say that the Jews are planning a Communist takeover of the world?
Because he grew up in an time in which Europe was rich with antisemitism and being unable to accept his own failures he picked an easy scapegoat.

I watched your video.
Watch mine.

youtu.be/aY90MSkQtrE

>My Twisted World by Adolf Hitler

And I am sure every single Jewish person living in Eastern Europe at the time was in on the plot?

they were cunts and not even competent

>43 minutes
C'mon man, this is an entirely unreasonable request.

Pic is Babe Ruth's last appearance at Yankee stadium weeks before he died of cancer (1948 I believe)

No, but when brainwashed peasant partisans are blowing up your friends day after day and the enemy which seeks to conquer the world and enslave it is advancing every day using an army of brainwashed peasants against you also, you tend to cut corners.

Here is an account by an Eastern european.

youtu.be/pmCUaNRS7ZQ

It was aesthetic.

> Spend a lifetime being brainwashed without listening to opposing arguements
> Those who profess the opposing arguement are the most vilified people in the world, they lose jobs, friends and even personal freedom for professing said viewpoints.
>Cannot listen for less than an hour
> Be a proponent of flat earth and a hater of Copernicus, WW2 revisionism not related

You'd think an open and inquisitive mind would reconsider their position whenever the vast majority supports it as religious truth yet the opposing side is not allowed reasonable debate.

That feel when one is a heretic to be burnt at the stake. :^)

Do it again bomber harris

Ask yourself why would a peasant (in let's say Belarusia) turn into a partisan and fight and do the things you say they were doing? (I think there were upwards of 1 million partisans in German held territory by 1944 IIRC)

They were of course fighting an invading army who was trying to conquer them and their country. It didn't help the invaders that they would routinely engage in collective reprisals against the local populace.

Wouldn't you do the SAME thing if you were in their shoes?

>The United States (who wasn't directly involved before 1944) and the USSR are the "whole world"

>If we accept that there is no clear-cut good and evil
I don't accept that

>delusional /pol/tards posting their retarded infographics that have been debunked a million times on this board

Illiteracy, nisience and trust in government propaganda.

Collective reprisal occurred mainly in the last 2 years of the war, due to the reasons I stated in the post that you replied to.

Why did Germany invade?

Here is Hitler declaring war.
youtu.be/ikgf9Ea2sQw

This is what he was observing.
Also, the USSR was an aggressor nation, do your research on how many nations it invaded between it's inception and prior to "World war 2". You might learn something.

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

>who wasn't directly involved before 1944

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Normandy

youtu.be/niiiHjIQu8s

You are gonna learn today Plebian.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_invasion_of_Sicily

> Using greentext, these ebil nabzees will never be able to argue against my position because I am so smug in my 100% history channel verified historical hugbox

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Nonsense. Here is a memo sent to Stalin by his defense minister saying that sources on the border say German invasion "will happen any day".

Scribbled on top was Stalin's response of "You can tell your source to go fuck his mother" and (paraphrasing here) that he was a disinformation not a source.

There is absolutely no credible evidence (youtube vids are not evidence) that USSR was preparing for an offensive war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II#US_bombing_in_Europe

Here is a Soviet letter denying Katyn.
Absolutely no credible evidence that it wasn't just German propaganda. :^)

Also, denying youtube as a source isn't gonna fly friend. I know you enjoy the history channel but academia is much broader than for profit corporate documentaries.

youtu.be/6Clv-c6QdBs

youtu.be/kQkppjOE7z4
Watching this now, thanks

>Invasion of Sicily
That is the most indirect way of getting involved. Sicily was a poor backwater, it was chosen specifically it was weak and an easy target.

You were wrong user, admit it and move on

All these pleb as fuck answers
It doesn't just boil down to history being written by the winners, it also is a matter of how ideologically opposed the winners are to the losers, and this is especially true where propaganda is heavily used by the winners or their successors.

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kill yourself you repulsive obese neckbeard

>muh jewish bolshevik meme

Do you jerk off to this?

they had cool uniforms

fuck off nazi nobody wants to debate with you because Nazis don't argue in good faith, first they say the holocaust never happened then it didn't happen but it should have then it did happen but it only killed 1 million people then shut up jew all your sources are fake JEW JEW JEW

Napoleon didn’t commit genocides. Nice try, kraut.

>unsanctioned European Conquest

As opposed to ‘sanctioned’? Lol

>The stipulations of a state being evil is if the state is wildly corrupt or maybe if it exercises Sternian Egoism.
>That said, Third Reich wasn't evil.

>The absolute state of brainlets

Shitting on democracy was the norm til after WW2, that’s really not exceptional
Even then..

That is totally disingenuous. The Nazis never fought all of those countries at once, most of them were rolled over quickly in a blitzkreig. Others like China were in a totally different theater then the Nazis. The lengths that Wehraboos will go to DENY that their precious Wehrmacht was crushed by the Soviets (with some American lend lease aid).

This

500 years from now people will talk about how ISIS was fearsome warriors n shiet even though they were just rapist niggers like the Vikangz who got btfo when they finally met a real army.

the jews deserved it

A wreathe with a bow inscribed,
You were victorious in the end.

as a nation maybe, but not as individuals, tons of whom fought for the kaizer in WWI, weren't actually bankers or media monopolists, and had families living in german land for centuries.

genocide has its perks but will never be an absolute right, because of this inevitable variation in population.

The Soviets would have been fucked, were it not for that lend-lease aid. It was literally a global conspiracy against Germany.

Except it's not disingenuous because in addition to having to worry about American and British invasions while simultaneously invading the Soviet Union, Germany also had to deal with controlling occupied territory. Now, in some places this wasn't a big deal because nazi autism did not dictate stupid shit needed to be done to the french, belgians danes and other assorted western europeans. But it was a very serious problem in eastern europe and one of the reasons why partisan activity was more of a problem there.

Oh and the soviets only started to seriously defeat germany and roll back most of the german territorial gains in and after mid 1943. After america and britain had invaded italy and when the invasion of france had become a matter of if and not when.

it means they're losers

>Declare war on the Soviets with their huge manpower reserves and America with its huge industrial potential
>wtf? This is a conspiracy!
Fuck you cunts are delusional

What Germany did to the Jews is not even remotely comparable to anything western nations in general did in the Americas for one simple reason. The holocaust was the planned extermination of an entire ethnic group. There was no plan to dramatically reduce the population of natives in the Americas by contrast, the main slaughter took place due to diseases that nobody knew the natives had no resistance to.

Because the jews were of lighter skin. Not /pol/ but the international community was and is always centered on the west and cares little for natives or developong nations.

Idiot.

Do It Again

That they were retarded faggots, disconnected from their past; living on a made up idillic fantasy and whom threathened the stability of the european states for this.
The disconnection between the prussian officer corps and the SS div was a horrible examole of this; where ideological lines got inbetween the reality of their strengths.
Their pretended noble goals were one by one turned into lies and their hegemonic totalitarism collapsed on the face of self isolation and poor leadership decisions.
Their enemies were old rivals and ideological rivals; and they stood wrong in their self delusionment when they wrongly gauged the threat and strength of the soviet union.
The only allies they got not by coups or conquering, turned out to be incompetent assholes and on the other side of the world, absolutely retarded.

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Napoleon wasnt seen as "objectively evil" as the third reich was.
After all he was just a shit stirrer; challenging the british dominance of the powerbalance.

They dont even fucking try to pass off lightly lol