Average middle class Roman house

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Nice fantasy though. Very few Romans were "middle class". Your average Roman lived like this.

>Equestrians
>Middle class

The equestrians were minor nobility.

Looks very similar to renaissance Italy.

Minor nobility is pretty much textbook definition of a middle class, no? My ancestors were members of lower gentry for like 800 years and they were never considered ultra rich as far as I know.

Which is superior? The grid system or the modern "arterial" system?

>planned cities

Grid is more aesthetic, organized and less maddening.

Both are shit, planned cities are AIDS.

Another pic

This right here is exactly why nuclear weapons got invented

>Average Roman House

>He doesn't like numbered streets and clear lanes that make it easy to find directions
Pleb

should be like veins

Enjoy your plastic crap. There isn't a single city in the New World worth taking a shit on, much less admiring.

>Europeans will literally, unironically defend their shit cities

It feels soulless, though desu I've only been to La Plata once when I was a kid.

>liking being in a matrix

No offense, I'm an American, and I really hate how the left one looks.

>planned faggotry created by a small group of autists vs structure that grew organically over hundreds of years

I’m going to show these to my architect
I want a Roman house

>structure that grew organically over hundreds of years
Like mold

no need unless you're a brainlet, there hasn't been a need at all since printing presses started churning out maps and certainly not now with satnavs

Am I blind or is there literally one road leading into the middle. Seems massively retarded

>live in the center
>have to drive in a circle a dozen times to get out of the suburbs
Jesus cheist

No that’s correct
It’s also why grid > spiral

>American """""""""""people""""""""""""
I'm about to have an anxiety attack just looking at this soulless human zoo.

Not really Its true in mediveil europe you could be gentry and not have a penny to your name as long as your blood was pure, but it was not like that in rome.

Equestrians for example constituted the upper crust of society, rich enough to serve as Calvary. There were very heavy property requirements and many equestrians went on to be senators or hold political posts.

American cities being planned from start to finish would be more meaningful if american city planning wasn't absolute dogshit.

The difference between mold and America is that mold has culture.

Neat angle, almost looks like a city in the middle of nowhere.

In real life, however, this block is connected to a larger inner city. This is a tiny part of las vegas.

All city planning is absolute dogshit by default.

because all the broke farmers didn't live in the city

The fields fit the contours taking into account drainage and other geographical features important in farming, the roads go efficiently from A to B instead of going NS EW.

The world isn't a spreadsheet, we organize things on grids on paper because the purpose is to be organized. When it comes to putting things into practice in the real world a grid is rarely more efficient.

Well the average Roman house is for like 50 people.

>Builds a metropolis into the desert
>When places in year round temperate climate, with no need for air conditioning or water pipelines exist
>Because the shithole of a state legalized gambling while the rest of the country didn't
Truly, if god were to smite any place on earth...

slaves and indentured plebs aren't real people

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actually clever and on point yuropoor, well done

Have you ever been to Eastern Europe? Or Brazil? Planned cities look awful everywhere.

Can't find that one in particular, but here are some others.
google.com/maps/@33.2342653,-111.867693,7845m/data=!3m1!1e3

>middle class Roman
Tiny part of the population

>middle class modern

Significant part of the population.

>this is what romaboos actually belive

It's all about taste and reason.

>that traffic
>that madness
not aesthetic

Looked better before the perfidious anglo burned it down.

>Minor nobility is pretty much textbook definition of a middle class, no?

It's difficult to say. If you define middle class as those that make the avarage income then no. Nobles were 1-2 percent of the total population, the vast majority being poor farmers. Slaves were about 15 percent at the peak of the empire.

Equites was in rank and wealth akin to a modern CEO while senators would be heads of fortune 500 companies.

>when your culture has spread so far that it is now common for everyone else and thus leads people to believe its origin has none.

lotta people ITT have never played sim city.
unplanned cities are god awful, traffic, unorganized, cramped and chaotic.

FUCK. I found it. It's worse than I imagined because it is not alone.
google.com/maps/@33.637221,-112.2835057,6326m/data=!3m1!1e3

Beautiful

Autistic contrarians.

Might as well be Arizona. In Phoenix area these neighborhoods pop up like crazy but they're largely a gigantic real estate scam.
>company buys a supercheap plot of land in the middle of nowhere
>builds a planned suburban neighborhood full of cookie cutter cardboard houses
>ropes people into buying because it's super cheap compared to proper houses elsewhere
>barely even connected to utilities
>all drawbacks of rural desert life (snakes, scorpions, shit internet, an hour worth of drive from proper civilization) and none of the benefits
>on top of that HOA'd to death with USSR tier regulation
Entire West Valley (pic) is full of shit like that.

>muh soul
The defense of the that hates practical living

imagining the traffic in that city makes me cringe

Eastern Europe tier.

Are those Kekistani flags in the middle

Yeah that's cool but I have access to BLACKED porn and Tostino pizza rolls at the touch of my fingertips so who came out on top here huh?

>grids
>practical

So did Rotterdam until the Luftwaffe flattened it.

>Misshapen blobs of curved and narrow streets with no order
>Practical

t. utilitarian faggot

But now there is less developable land.

Grid is the superior system. Blocks simplify life so much it's insane. Makes navigating less stressful and you always know where you are. Plus it's more authentically urban, unless you're in Europe.

>implying purple is best

flowing organic arteries, highways smoothly diverge into main roads which deposit commuters into comfy low traffic capillaries they can easily negotiate on foot after parking, likewise it does not take long to get back to a main road or highway for unfettered high speed travel without constant clashing with smaller roads, pedestrians and cyclists

practical, efficient, aesthetic, wholesome

more efficient roads means less roads and more space, any little triangles left over can have benches, trash cans, food stands, paper stands, statues and foliage

Utilitarianism is best

Keeping cities always small is not always possible and even then, they would also be best with a grid.

beautiful cities like Alexandria were planned.

>Utilitarianism is best
If you're a faggot without eyes, or brain.

Alexandria was ugly as shit. One meme lighthouse doesn't make up for that fact.
Probably the only planned city that actually ended up being great was St. Petersburg, notice the past tense.

>be europoor
>Mum sends me a telegram to come over because the designated migrants have ran off with cutlery (spoons, forks, and sporks)
>Hop in my 1980's toyato manual (the newest car in town) and begin my drive over to mum's
>1.2 Bingometers away as the crow flies, but 47.91 Dongometers using the streets
>Arrive at mum's house, a one bedroom with half-bathroom (the biggest house in town)
>Hand her a brown paper bag wrapped in plastic wrap
>She opens it, uncovering a plastic knife I bought on the Asian market
>Hop on the bus and head home

What do you mean?

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fuck

Mold is antibacterial.

t. Guy posting on American imageboard

Do you need to visit every convenience store and gay oriented gym in the city? You find one near you and this accounts for most of your movement. You live in a village in a city.

>hiroshimoot
>american

Veeky Forums has evolved way beyond 2ch. There used to be this guy named Moot here but you might be too young to know who that is

isn't the whole autism approach to creating cities on of the reasons latin america and former soviet bloc countries have such a high criminal violence rate?

People have an inherent need to differentiate themselves from others, in order to achieve status. When every building looks the same, and a city have no "soul" so to speak of, it dehumanizes the individual in that city, and they start to see less of their common man too, making psychologically easier to do awful things to each other.

I guess it's easier to hurt each other, when you perceive the humans around you as just an other ant in the colony, which I guess these cities could make one think.

You are the one with no brain, wanting to make everyone's life more difficult just to sate your unique snowflakeism.

I like having options. I don't want to be constrained to just my immediacy.

I'm willing to bet the latter has a million times the technology of the former in it

Can someone explain to me why arent houses built like this anymore? I want a fucking interior pool

There is plenty of houses like that or bigger on latinamerican old towns.

Jew S A cant into comfyness

AmeriCAN'T

>Moot
who?

Average Roman's house.
Seriously pal, being middle class was still rare back then, but now it's the norm

families dont live togather, those mansions housed generations of rich romans or unrelated families living next to eachother by the dozens

The modern house is not middle class in any case.

Left is just autism, makes me feel claustrophobic

>those images
How to spot cancer.

muh individualism

in the american house only 2 people live with their 1-2 kids whom they kick out once they reach adulthood

in the roman house an entire family lives with parents, grandparents, children

most plebs lived in apartment buildings pic related(Insula)