Men raised by women

Any more reads like this?

after reading into stocism, I started with Nietzsche and like some of him.

Also, watch Jordan Peterson lectures.

kinda

I highly recommend giving this book to any lost beta nephew or little brother ect you have

unrelated, but I find it interesting that any sort of real male brotherhood or friendship is ridiculed in society with terms like "bromance" as if it was "gay" or to compare it to some catty fling friendship comparable to women gossiping in a nail salon.

I share a lot of similarities, especially the last part on having barely any emotion on events like the ones stated.

As well as impressing girls. I have had encountered a couple girls I felt like were worth going for but it doesn't go anywhere usually. Either its me or her.

more male teacher

stop giving little boys opium because they want to play outside and the 20 year old glorified baby sitter that is their teacher sucks and cant control them

schools need to teach kids actual life skills like personal finance

have sex education

parents need to start having family dinners and spending time together. Fathers need to be connected with their kids

yes, it's not very long
No, but it's short and a pretty easy read. It is worth the sunk cost of time and effort, as it requires very little of either, and the book is pretty good.

>be boomer
>be jew
>let women have sufferage
>"equal opportunity" aka women are better than guys except when they aren't ((which is never because men are always better in most situations))
>wonder why boomer kids don't give a shit about the smoldering ruins boomers created
>create stupid TED talk were they ignore the elephant in the room that THEYcreated

yup. 20ish more years of shit

Ordering it now, thanks!

Too long didn't watch. Our genes are pretty much the same as they were 10,000 years ago. Stop breeding with skinny bitchy women as they produce weak sons. Go after wide hipped high test women they create high test sons. Farming societies realized this a long time back.

>socrates
>plato
>aristotle
All worth checking out if you live in a western (Europe/America/Australia/Canada) country/culture
>Nietzsche
as this user recommended
Nietzsche was also salty about women though so if that's where your issues lie he's not really /your guy/
If you read him you could check out:
>kant
>hume
>russel
>wittgenstein
>frege
No problem user. It's not going to change your life but it's interesting to examine and engage in the stoic line of thought.

damn
too late for me then

>parents got divorced
>dad took me to a beahc, had a talk to 7 year old me
>ends up crying, explaining I have to live with my mother
>"dad, don't cry... I'll cry too"
>sister is too young to even remotely understand
>live with grandparents, sister, mother and aunt in 3 bedroom apartment
>mother worked odd jobs; was a housewife most of my life so far
>grandfather is emotionally and physically agressive to grandmother
>grandmother is expert at emotional blackmail
>mom abuses corporal punishment, way too violent and agressive
>one slap isn't enough; She doesn't hit us to discipline us, she does it because she gets angry and frustrated
>bullied at school for being a social retard
>this is partially due to helicopter family not letting me leave home unsupervised till I was 15
>meanwhile see dad on weekends
>tried cooking for us once but he sucked, so he orders pizza when we see him
>always fun ordering pizza
>also like to go fishing with him in his boat
>moved to England at age 12
>parents live together now, still divorced but share a house so they can both see us
>mother is still violent sometimes and extremely unhinged: Gave me a scar slamming a door on my toddler face once and hit me with a lead pipe and burst our crying after because she was hoovering and I was in the way
>is a complete alcoholic, drinks and drives, misses work deadlines, smokes weed
>had to carry her around when she was blackout drunk after a funeral
>is auschwitz mode because she hardly eats and just drinks wine and smokes
>has a boyfriend who is a complete liberal who disagrees with all my policies and encourages her to drink and is a borderline NEET
>sister grew up responsible, hard working and sane due to not wanting to be like my mother
>proud of her, she's a british acrobatic champion
>live alone now at university
>finally started reading, lifting, studying philosophy, meditating
>feel so much better
>seem to be regaining a sense of masculinity
sorry for blogposting, but I needeed to share.

yeah. also, you only use 10% of your brain and Marilyn Manson removed his ribcage so he could suck his own dick.

well at least you both made it out alive without letting your mothers black soul poisoning yall.

for all my parents faults, I still feel lucky to have them and love them even more especially when I got out into the real world and heard and saw how other peoples parents were.

I had a rough child and teenage hood, but I'm just now starting to develop into a good human being. It sucks because she's my mother and all but I really want her to improve. She's SO skinny and SO weak that I suggested she actually does SS, but she just bought a weight gainer power and thinks that'll make her develop her musculature somehow.

it's great you get to see your parents and love them. I wish I has a functional family. I don't want a "cool, hip, drug approving, sex approving, with it" mum, I want a stable, typical, mentally balanced, traditional mother who can take care of herself. Thank god my sister is leaving this year. she doesn't get along with her an hates her boyfriend.

Also

>sister doing IF
>skips breakfast
>aunt accuses her of starving herself
>"I can't believe you're pulling this scene on my birthday!"
>"I'm not pulling anything, it's just my diet"
>"WELL I'M NOT EATING EITHER. I'M ALSO NOT EATING LUNCH"
>"what the fuck what did I do?"
>"STOP STARVING YOURSELF!"

You are just jaded.

Try to focus on something you truly enjoy. If you dont have such activity, try something new you havent done yet.

*hugs you*
Keep good work kid. Learn from your parents mistakes.

;_; thanks user. I've been lifting since february and have finished mindfulness in plain English and I'm reading meditations atm and American psycho. I wanna be an excellent human being.

Thank god my family are a bunch of social butterflies so I never have to put with this kinda shit often. The one time me and my sister spent more than two hours in each others company she ended up throwing a massive fucking tantrum because I joked about having a bath before her and I giggled at an old guy missing his stop on the bus. She was 17 at the time.

Luckily she was almost always at her boyfriends place or spent all her time in her room.

Do you do friends?
Please dont tell you are alone.

My sister has never had a boyfriend. she just focuses on studying and working out, dancing, acrobatics, etc. She hardly drinks too and doesn't do drugs. I'm very proud of her. I want her to escape that toxic place as soon as possible. It's just sad we missed out on prime development time. I wish we had a more productive and sweet childhood, but I guess maybe it hardened us up.

I've lived in Spain studying abroad for a year now. I do have one friend, my lifting buddy. I lived in a house with 3 friends but they ALL got depressed. Two dropped out. I hardly evver interacted with them because they were in their rooms playing video games all the time and hardly ever wanted to socialize.

>I wish I has a functional family. I don't want a "cool, hip, drug approving, sex approving, with it" mum, I want a stable, typical, mentally balanced, traditional mother who can take care of herself.

my mom was exactly like that. A very "marge simpson" type of uncool mom, but very loving. But she was a hippy back her day which is kind of weird I guess.

I cringe whenever I look back on my teenage years when I was a dick to her for no real reason at all other than her not wanting me to be a drunk piece of shit.

I'm not supposed to know this, but my mother wwas a smuggler and a heroine addict. She was in jail for a while and I think she might have even been pregnant with me at the time.

I hate that she wants to try to portray herself as a "cool friend" mother. Putting condoms in my backpack, offering to drink and smoke weed with me, talking about drugs, swearing at me, etc. How can she expect me to respect her as a mother if she is so unhinged? swearing at me, slapping me and my sister (who are grown men and women who lift weights and could literally kill her) getting blackout drunk, missing deadlines, sleeping in, farting in front of me... At least my dad is responsible, succesful and masculine. I wish he had raised me. It sounds harsh to my mother, but its true.

Sorry, Its just I'd never be able to tell anyone this in real life. I needed to let it out. My mother isn't an AWFUL human being. I know she loves me and cares, but god damnit she's so fucking irresponsible. A teen who never grew.

It's because men, especially in large groups, feed off each others toxic masculinity.

Check out Seneca's letters. I always preferred him to Marcus, he's saying pretty much the same thing but it's more conversational (even funny at parts), plus he was an actual slave at one point so I feel like he's more qualified to talk about stoicism than anyone else.

>he was an actual slave at one point
Disregard that, I was thinking of someone else. He lived a kind of cushy life but he became an hero so that might be worth something.

Well done friend, you can fix yourself 100%

The only thing I can't fix is ADHD, which I was diagnosed with as a kid, but isn't in my medical records for some reason. I even got a ritalin prescription, but stopped taking it. I guess I shouldn't take anymore though, hopefully meditation will fix my attention problems.

>plus he was an actual slave

That was Epictetus

oh, let me just add, the scar she gave me on my forehead was accidental. She wasn't trying to kill a toddler.

Also, can anyone recommend me any good resources to learn to cook? people at my residence cook for me, so I never had to learn. I want to though.

Large part of cooking is intuition and experience, books won't take you very far, better off checking youtube for videos on how to cook.

Or better yet, watch and help someone cook.

you sound like me user

>father is one of many sons of some fucking drug running columbian family
>mother is from some scumbag south carolinan racist family
>father is druggy alcoholic my entire fucking life
>mother used to be qt when she was young, turned into an alcoholic wreck thanks to my father who abused the fuck out of her, total stockholm syndrome
>raised on burgerking and nights where both my parents were fucking blitzed out of their minds half the time
>asking why or how anything worked resulted in non answers and "because i said so", so no actual learning from them took place
>poor as fuck
>no money for decent clothes, nice things
>bullied at school because social retard

>be 27 now
>despite all of this, move out, ditch contact with family completely, have loyal loving girlfriend, a job and everything is coming up nice
>getting Veeky Forums

we're all gonna make it

This is super fucking true, the elementary and secondary school systems are incredibly biased against boys. For one, studies show that boys generally do better in test situations, while girls generally do better in coursework and assignments. One of the biggest fads in education right now is to move away from testing, and towards assignments. It's not really intentional, but it screws over boys a lot.

Furthermore, schools are having less and less outdoor recess time and gym classes. For boys, physical activity, specifically engaging physical activity is important for development, running around on a tarmac for 20 minutes a day doesn't cut it. But that's what north american schools are moving towards. The result of this is that boys can't sit still and focus in class, and by high school there is permanent developmental delay in many boys. It's not very strong, but there is a significant effect.

Furthermore, boys in elementary schools are put on a ton of add and adhd medication when they don't need it. The rate of attention disorders should be non-gender biased, but there's clearly a bias in prescription of the drugs, most of it is because the boys don't get enough activity time, and can't focus. Now they don't actually have the disorder, so the drugs don't actually help them focus, you just have half a class of boys stoned out of their minds, and the parents are happy because the teacher tells them how well behaved their sons are.

cont
The result of all of this is that in western schools boys have fallen way too far behind, to the point where ~60% of university students are female, and that number will only rise because of the media obsessing over "get more grills in stem" and "we need to educate our womens" bullshit. Women are far better educated than men, and everyone's happy about it. If you look at east asia, their school systems are organized 10 times as well as ours, funded better, taught better, they actually learn discipline, there are stressful testing environments, and they filter out substandard students from university paths by high school. The result is that their students are ten times the quality of ours. And about funding, our schools are notoriously underfunded. Not only that, but they suffer from horrible bureaucracy, where things happen like an administrator makes some deal with apple, and buys every grade 9 an iPad to use for school. Everyone applauds him for this, he gets promoted, and by the end of the year 85% of the iPads are stolen, and half of the remaining don't work. The admin has already gotten a new better position because of this, so nothing happens. A few years later, the same thing happens all over again. This is why there are no textbooks. Sorry about the rant, both my parents are teachers so I hear about a lot of the shit that goes on behind the scenes with funding and curriculum. It's literally just people screwing over the students to get a raise, and doing teaching styles which have no proven benefits, just because some admin who hasn't been in a classroom for 25 years has a friend who wrote a book on some retarded new way to "teach".

>loyal girlfriend
Breh I bet I could cuck you in a heartbeat lad. No bitch is loyal enough to say no to me and my money

yeah, my nephew is usually bumed out because hes "bad" for fidgetting around in boring ass class and these teachers are so fucking retarded that they cant grasp the reality that class is fucking boring and they suck at their job.

youtube.com/watch?v=avP8IyKw5_w

>Liked stoicism
>Liked NEET-Chan
Doesn´t check out, faggot. If you actually consider both positions compatible, you´re a fucking retard.

JBP is dope, though. Very nice, charming and clever man.

that is so great. Gives me a lot of hope dealing with my parents. I feel like a pussy because I *feel* like they are abusing me, but they dont even curse at me or beat me, so I dont think there is anything that is worth talking about.

/fitlit/ is back

Gotcha, thanks user. I might observe my aunt and ask my sister to teach me to bake. I tried baking my housemates a cake but they refused to try it (which hey, I get it, but cmon, I put effort and time into making something for them yknow?)

I think I'll also try growing my own greens.

I'm very proud of you user. We're like a phoenix, emerging from these ashes as being who are reborn. Speaking of stockholm syndrome, my grandad was like that with my grandma. He was a scumbag football player and coach who cheated on her, gambled, fucked whores and constantly asked her to go beg her neighbours for money.

>grandmother dies
>uses up her funeral money at a casino
>mother has savings to go on holiday with us
>he secretly has access to her account, does the same thing again
>aunt gives him access to her account so he can withdraw money to feed himself
>withdraws 2 thousand and spends it on hookers and the casino again
>hangs out with the literal thieves guild
>pulled some bullshit and made 30k from some rigged game
>spent it all in a month on... What? Yep, you've guessed it. Hookers and the Casino.

Stoicism teaches fatalism in the sense that some truths, and things such as death, are unavoidable, right? But it isn't nihilistic, it's almost absurdist in a way, like "there are things we cannot change and suffering is inevitable, but strive to improve yourself and life for others regardless"? I'm not sure if you're familiar with Theravada buddhism, but the similarities between being mindfull and not allowing yourself to be affected by passion and reconizing impernanence, suffering and insustainability seem to mesh well with Stoicism.

Tell us a bit about yourself and your issues, user.

I just kinda hate how my parents make YUGE problems out of every small issue, e.g. me not understanding something simple I never done or learnt about it. They dont yell everytime, tho. SOMETIMES they are cool about... sometimes.

Also, they would be the first to blame my social retardation/anxiety on. But thankfully I am improving every day and i was not THAT bad in the beginning, but bad to almost everyone around me. Thanks for giving me the chance :^)

My parents were like that too. I think that dysfunctional people struggle with raising kids because they have higher expectations and less patience. I also blame mine for my social retardation. They were extremely protective and overbearing.

I think we have a lot in common user, all of us. We just gotta try to take fate into our hands and escape this fate.

Many parents in this day and age are highly narcissistic.
If you're anything like me and my siblings you will learn to not care about them.
brainpickings.org/2015/03/05/franz-kafka-letter-father/
This letter always brings me strength and determination.

>you will learn to not care about them

YES! THIS! It is pretty easy to not care about them, but it is still hard to deal with. I'll try my best to endure it, and spend the least amount of time with them

Keep breeding with the frail broads, you'll meet your maker one day.

Cool ! My father is never happy with what I do, even tho my grades are pretty pretty good. I am not sure what they want from me, nothing makes them happy. Nothing will

Are you under age or otherwise dependant on them? if so, try to become independent. From then onwards, teach them with respect, but don't go out of your way to be kind to them. Simply live your life.

ok. Yup, im 16. and there are very little amount of people here who live alone. My brother for example is 26 and lives with us

It was my fault for asking if you were 16 and potentially getting you banned. I'm sorry. Mods, if you're reading this, please let this one slide. He has done nothing wrong and has been behaving just fine.

A woman cant raise a man , single mothers create the worst offspring in the world.
>think of most of the people in your school that only had one parent
>99% of them are losers/delinqients
>thats why society goes crazy whenever someone makes it when they only had a single mother (lebron)
>females will be the downfall of civilization

Are you Southern European? Portuguese or Greek or something?

SIngle parent child here This is all true, and although I hate attributing my faults to not having a father figure, it's undeniable that the lack of one is playing a huge, negative role, in mine, and so many others, lives. Fortunately, my mother was never physically or emotionally abusive and she has definitely tried her best with me, but she has a plethora of other problems that I've been thinking for a long time now that it's best for me to distance myself from her as much as possible.

A man and a women are supposed to balance each other out in many ways, and one of the most important ways is in the raising of a child. Family values like this have been lost in past couple of decades and at the rate society is going it's only going to get worse.

why haven't you killed your mother yet?

She's not evil, she's just broken. Stoicism teaches us we're all natural beings and all humans and must try to be empathetic to each other's plights. Theravada Buddhism is the same. She still loves me deep inside. I don't hate her, I pity her.

ٍSaudi Arabian

reading bullshit will only make you weaker, I've met plenty of those meditative guys... they pretend to manage it until something tougher than they are used to gets to them, and when that happens they cry back to alcohol and weed doubling down on self deprecation. pitiful
Your mother is wicked and a failure of a human being, your mental gymnastic to justify her just proves how incapable you are of being in control

ah, shit... They're notoriously harsh. I hope you have the strength to perservere. Try reading philosophical texts and meditating. It could help you.

As human beings, our purpose is to live life naturally in accordance to nature. That means doing the things human beings were meant to do and excelling at them. my mother is a natural byproduct of the human race: A failed human being. These happen naturally and are an inevitability. I don't hate her for being an inevitability. I pity her for having to take such a shitty spot in the natural order of things. She could have, however, through hard work and perserverance saved herself, but this was not the case.

Also, meditators aren't absolutely perfect and immune to passion. That is the ultimate goal, but until you achieve it, you won't be a sage. There are scientifically objective and proven benefits to meditation and a master will be utterly free from passion and suffering. It may sound like hoo haa and I understand why it would, but give mindfulness in plain English a read. It's only around 100 pages. It might change your perception on buddhism and mindfulness and if not, well, it at least culturally enlightened you.