>26 year old male >5'9" (Manlet status) >148 pounds (month ago I was 140) >9% bodyfat >127 Ibs of muscle mass >Currently on week one of Ice cream 5x5 >7 year long distance running background >PRs include: 1600 m: 4:44 3200 m: 10:16 5000 m: 16:30 50k trail: 4 hr 54 min
I recently dropped all cardio and have been focusing on gaining mass. My goal is 160 at the moment but once I reach that I'd like to possibly encroach on 180 Ibs as ultimate goal
My current working weights for my strength program are as follow:
Squat 5x5: 140 Bench 5x5: 120 Shrugs 3x8: 135 (might need to drop weight) Bent over row 5x5: 90 Pull ups: I can do 3 sets of 6 reps fairly easily Over-head press 5x5: 70
Dead lift is around my bench working weight right now but because of my job (EMT) I've been reluctant to start deadlifting because I recently strained my back deadlifting a patient off the floor. The guy weighs about 180 but I had a partner helping me out.
My goals are to get bigger and get all my heavy lifts above my body weight of 150 by the end of summer. Is all this realistic?
William Mitchell
Why even lift manlet?
You're below 6'0 so it's all useless.
And 150 pounds is nothing, you need to be 175+ muscle with 15% bodyfat.
I would say post pics, but LOOL.
Dominic Reyes
> Is all this realistic?
Yes
Alexander Gutierrez
Your body has bones and shit in it besides muscle and fat you faggot
Colton Cook
I can't control height but I can control gains. I know I need to gain weight but first I have to starve my cardio. I have been running at a fairly competitive level for 5-7 years longer than marathon so my body has been depleted but that doesn't mean I can't make proper gains. Just look at Ryan Hall's gains he made after being an anorexic 2:04 marathoner for 10+ years. He's now near 180 pounds a significantly larger.
Austin Cook
Just eat 3 packets of Raman a day for 2 days and you will be at 150 bro
Nolan Morris
You gained 8 pounds in a month? You are still really weak, don't do what I did and bulk like crazy. Keep up the cardio (just don't let it interfere with your lifting) and don't eat more than 500 Calories over maintenance.
Bentley Nguyen
I don't believe I can keep the cardio at which I had it (50-60 miles per week). I think that'd kill my gains. I know I am pretty significantly weak. This is all really new to me. I now know what it feels like to be one of those hobby joggers slogging away at 9 min mile pace when I came trucking along 6:30 pace - it's the same feeling I get when I approach the weight rack.
Wyatt Lee
This is what I am trying to build on.
Brody Williams
If you can, bulk through the cardio.
Juan Richardson
How would I bulk through cardio? I don't believe I could bulk on my standard cardio regimen. Do you mean small cardio on off days such as 2 miles? I probably will continue to keep my cardio canceled the rest of this month in order to abate my intense ultra distance cardio.
Evan Gutierrez
Not him but you can do a few miles at least 5x a week probably. Just eat a little extra if you're that concerned. It's only like 200 calories for a few miles.
If you bulk to 180 unless you're repping 1/2/3/4 at 5x5 with possible exception of deadlift you're probably not gonna like how you look. I way overbulked on my first bulk and had way less muscle than I imagined once I cut. Its much better IMO to take it easier so you don't end up spending 3 or 4 months cutting. If it's gonna take more than 6 weeks to get to sub 15%bf then you are overbulking in my opinion. Only start to eat more if your lifts are struggling and you aren't gaining any weight for 2 weeks or so.
Wyatt Rivera
why do you have hair just around your nipples
Adam Morgan
low-quality photo doesn't reveal other hair but admittedly it is longer around my nipple area. I have no idea? Never really considered it.
William Miller
So the ice cream strength that I am currently doing A/B/A week one, and B/A/B week 2 should have running interlaced throughout it and I should just focus on getting good fats and protein in each day but not cramming loads of food down my throat because I'll only end up gaining bullshit mass?
Joshua Torres
OP get the fuck in the bathroom right fucking now and shave that nipple hair. Post back with results. I fucking mean it bitch, if you post one more time without a picture of your shaved nipples I will find you and kill you. Is your fucking goal to be as NON-aesthetic as possible. Christ..
Asher Morris
Shave just nipple hair or happy trail too? I'll deliver. Just give me a moment.
Isaac Garcia
personally i shave my entire front because if i didnt id be a gorilla. might as well get started on growing in a thicker shade once /bearmode/
Thomas Carter
Get rid of it all.
Carson Hill
yeah don't over analyze it. I try to do cardio every off day and a few days after lifting. If you only do cardio on your off days you'll be fine.
Make sure you are getting enough protein & fiber every day and not eating shit foods (fast food, etc) regularly. If you aren't good at judging yourself use myfitness pal or something similar for a few months until you get the hang of it. The idea of bulking like crazy and cutting to reveal a ripped body is perpetuated mostly by bodybuilders on steroids. You need to eat at a surplus to gain a lot of muscle but it's much slower than most people realize once your noob gains are already accomplished.
Zachary Price
I have no problem eating healthy. Again, I reiterate that I've been a competitive long distance runner for a couple of years. It's not easy maintaining a 50-60 mile per week schedule with average pace being around 7 flat miles. I know a thing or to about dedication but lifting and getting stronger upper body wise is definitely a whole new animal.
Ayden Wood
Didn't get rid of it all yet but here are the nipples shaved.
Oliver Torres
I get it. If I were you I wouldn't want to get any fatter than you already are. So don't go over 500 calories above maintenance. I'd try to keep that even lower. 200-300 should be just fine. Just get ~130g protein a day.
Julian Gray
good man.
Jordan Allen
I have a scale that sends an electrical pulse through your body and somehow separates bodyfat, water weight, bone mass, and muscle mass out. It also gives you your maintenance calories per day to maintain current weight. For my activity level and body specs it say 3,786 calories. So I should try to get in that many calories perday plus the 130ish grams of protein?
Hunter Wilson
I don't really know, I think those scales are probably BS. I weigh more than you and probably don't eat near that many calories.
If you're getting enough protein, your lifts are going up, and you're not getting fatter then you are headed in the right direction.
If your lifts are going up and you're getting fatter eat less.
If your lifts are stalling and you're not gaining any weight whatsoever or losing weight, eat more.
It's not rocket science. All that matters is getting enough protein and increasing your lifts. You shouldn't stall for a while based on your current lifts. Just take a look at yourself every week, you should notice how your body is changing. Biggest noob mistake however, is thinking all that weight you've been gaining is muscle. Unless you are getting a lot more definition a good amount is going to be fat.
Brayden Thomas
The high calories are based probably mostly on the activity level I have selected on the scale which is (highly-active) or 7 hour plus of exercise per week. I had it on that when I was hitting the training hard a couple of months back training for an ultra trail marathon that had a lot of elevation in it. I was round 70 mile weeks.
Lincoln Evans
>148 pounds >127 Ibs of muscle mass
>21 lbs of bones, organs, etc. yeah OP
Carson Brooks
Can't into fat mass dumbass
James Butler
Proud of you user
Carson Diaz
did you go to the beach with that nip hair before?
Logan Baker
Honestly I've never had comments about it and I've had my shirt off plenty of times when running around other people both guys and girls. But people unfortunately aren't as honest in person as they are on a user message board, haha.
Thanks for the heads up anons though!
David Myers
This manlet meme is pathetic and used by insecure men to make other people insecure. You are like that girl from a Reddit thread pic who couldn't lose weight and so fed her boyfriend so that he doesn't lose weight either. Basically, you are a pathetic insecure gain goblin who has to put down people around him to stand up among the crowd
Jace Harris
Just me that wouldn't call this 9%bf?
Nicholas Harris
Yeah I ignored the whole manlet meme but added it in my op because I knew it would come up. I've never had problems with my height and honestly been with plenty of girls (some actually taller than me) and never had any issues from them with my height.
There are both pros/cons to being very tall or very short or being on the average end.
Anthony Harris
What body fat % would you consider it? I honestly can't tell body fat %s by pics unless it's on one extreme spectrum or the other.
Brayden Smith
A bit above it, I'm not good at judging body fat % but it looks like he has a bit of a skinnyfat belly Might just be the angle or something
Daniel Reed
14-16% probably. People on this board tend to way underestimate their BF.
Gavin Nelson
No skinny fat. Could be the angle. Skinnyfats can't run sub-17 in 5ks. Skeletons can, but not skinnyfats.
Brayden Rogers
the people who try to force it dont realise it just make them appear incredibly insecure which is the exact opposite of what they want to achieve. i find it pretty amusing desu
Joshua Edwards
This. Negposting is the most beta thing around.
Jaxon Hughes
its much higher than that
18% or more
bf is a percentage of total body mass, and since there is no body mass, even a little fat will lead to incredibly high bf% numbers
Eli Wilson
those times are slow bro get back on the track
Kevin Bell
I want to get into Ryan Hall mode.
Hunter Collins
I dunno, slight ab definition and some arm vascularity. I'm giving benefit of the doubt he's not flexing.
Samuel Howard
5km 16:30 HOLY SHIT
Justin Sanders
They're definitely NCAA DIII times but decent for a midpack runner. And were solid for my Southern region.
Ian Foster
Not elite fast; but not slow either. Would get you a scholarship at a good University but probably not much. A small school would offer a full ride.
Jace Collins
I believe that's where the term gains goblin originated. From the same source of manlet, lanklet, and dyel.
Julian Clark
holy shit no one said "manlet detected" for once
Jace Cox
People generally just don't appreciate the use of manlet at all. It draws away from the actual topic discussion and makes it shitpost tier.
Parker Lopez
127 lbs of lean mass, dumb ass
Elijah Phillips
Semantics - lean mass, muscle mass, who cares mass
Anthony Price
Thing is dude, even if you get crazy huge mass and whatnot, you're still 5'6" until you can aford that shank-lengthening surgery.