Apart from Kickboxing and Judo why don't we ever see any other martial arts in MMA?

Thanks for your brain dead simpleton analysis of multiple martial arts

Wrong. Wrestling base with training in BJJ (I believe other wrestling styles incorporate chokes though) > every other form

Please demonstrate in what way kickboxing is better than Muay thai? And why continually they needed to mix up the rules for kickboxers cause muay thai specialists would smash them whenever they competed.

>What is low kick?
>What is clinch?

I do muay thai and I'm almost certain I'd beat myself if I studied kickboxing the same amount of time.

youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1f_o2moKA

fuck is low kick?
fuck is clinch?

fuck outta my dojo binch

can training in martial arts cure Veeky Forums autism? how to overcome fear of getting on the mats?

>kickboxing > muay thai

W E W

wuving evewy waff

What do you have to fear? You're there to learn. Getting roughed up in the mat lessens the chance of getting hurt even worse on the street

could be for bigger guys (i.e. over 195 lbs), some say styles like dutch kickboxing are more suited to these types of athletes then the strategy and tactics used in MT.

lmao lyoto machida, big cheater

>I watched a video on mma once

social retardation and general lack of coordination, plus being a bigger guy and a complete white belt.

To be fair, the real answer to the which style is better question is dependent on the practicant. The best martial artist is the person that takes whatever works for them and integrates it in their own style. That's why MMA exists.

It's a matter of effectiveness. We're not going to see obscure martial arts with 0 effectiveness at the elite levels of martial arts, because the practitioners of these arts wouldn't have even gotten past their regional MMA circuits. There's only so many ways you can throw a punch, land a kick, and grapple another human being.

Everyone starts somewhere. Just go for it. You can only get respect for trying.

How's he a cheater?

>dojo

>BJJ
>Muay Thai
>Wrestling
>Sambo
>Boxing

Shit's out there, but usually MMA only includes simple strait forward techniques to reduce energy expenditure - most fights come down to whoever has the better energy economy.
Flashy shit is easy to counter and uses way too much energy, or is incompatible with the rules of the sport.

In a street fight a lot of professional MMA guys would get wrecked because the GI to ground top quickly due to energy economy - they would basically 100% win the grapple, but ultimately lose to the boot through the back of their skull.

Finally someone gave the right answer!
All you other niggas in this tread must be trolling, or you just don't know shit

Eh, a lot of people are ignorant about the more macro parts of the sport.
Energy economy and weight efficiency are basically the deciding factors in many of the elite tier fights.

lol are you saying a professional MMA fighter would lose in a fight to Janine Grapplo?

...

No, he'd win the grapple with no effort.
He'd get his head kicked in whilst he's on the ground.

Street fights aren't about winning in spectacular fashion, like in professional sports, they're about survival and usually last about 30-60 seconds for a more serious one.
By that point the loser's friends have arrived and at least one of them is armed or wearing steel toe boots.

Real life fights require disengagement as fast as possible and as much manpower as possible.

t. Ex Bouncer.

Yeah... did you misunderstand me or something? I agreed with that post...

I was making it a bit more clear for other reading.
A lot of people don't understand the economies at play in a lot of sports, particularly fighting sports.

>Ex

What happened user?

>aside from the only martial arts i can name why arent there other ones in MMA?

Better job, better industry.

Surprisingly, having "Crowd Security Team Leader" on your resume is a really good thing for companies looking for assertive managers.

OK. On a side note, is Jimmy Garoppolo related to Jeanine Garofalo? I understand the names are different but I think it's one of those gendered names, where you put a P for males because they have a Penis (Jimmy Garoppolo must have either a really big penis or two penises) and you put an F for females because they have a Fuckhole. Anyway you seem like an expert on things so can you help me out with this?

implying most of the muay thai guys in MMA could beat "wonderboy" stephen thompson when he uses his kickboxing to drop you in the first round with a foot to your skull

same thing with yair rodriguez and his Taekwondo, although frankie edgar ripped him a new asshole recently with superior ground game

Not much difference between the two, I'd fuck both.

>In a street fight a lot of professional MMA guys would get wrecked because the GI to ground top quickly due to energy economy - they would basically 100% win the grapple, but ultimately lose to the boot through the back of their skull.

if you were even breathing, or even THINKING the words "krav maga" as you typed this, you are the most autistic piece of garbage that exists in this world, and you would have nothing but faith to back up these words

ok then

Do you think Yair has Hair down Thair?

he's still a growing boy

He's old enough to have pubes silly. I just want to know if homie be trimmin.

I'm afraid that if I go to karate class I'll be a 33 year old man with a bunch of 12 year olds.

same desu

>Nothing but faith.
I'm an ex bouncer.

I worked door, floor and perimeter, if it happens in a bar fight I've seen it.

Every single time someone goes to ground, within 10-15 seconds either security is on them and they get an assault charge courtesy of the million cameras and agreement with the cops, or the dude who's losing has a friend who's got s bottle in his hand or a boot on his foot - shit ends badly.

1v1 may be different, but it's never like that in the real world - there's always some dickhead ready to amp it up.

In reference to Krav, it's literally Boxing and Wrestling with a big of positional awareness thrown in.
It's not some Jewish kung fu magic, it's as simple as can be - literally no idea where this has come from.

Just do it now. In 5 years you won't regret it. Stop making excuses.

But I don't wanna. Didn't you hear me, faggot?

>beating up drunk faggots who literally don't know how to fight proves that your autistic jew magic could beat real martial arts against professional athletes

>In reference to Krav, it's literally Boxing and Wrestling with a big of positional awareness thrown in.

why do I feel like a professional boxer would beat any krav maga guy 999999/1000000 attempts?

I would literally be willing to bet my life's savings on that.

bitch i wouldn't take your life savings if you stuck it between your wife's cunt lips.

I bet a fucking flyweight boxer would FUCK YOU UP against your autistic little pretend style.

>b-but i'd have my boot on his foot

he'd probably land 10 jabs/crosses/counter-punches on you before your head hit the ground

OP doesn't really watch any mma and is trying to bait us. My mate is getting into the UFC on a background of tkd, Thai boxing, jiu jitsu and arnis. Used to spar with the fucker all the time ato a hybrid tkd club but currently boxing

You really don't understand my point do you?
Most fights are over in seconds, regardless of state of mind - sports are a rare exception where it's forced 1v1 and the fights last longer than a handful of blows.

In reference to Krav vs Boxing - if you were following a standardised ruleset that's fair to both (upper body striking only) and you had two people of equal skill levels it would go either way.
You'll find all the footwork is the same, all the basic strikes are the same, all the guards are the same - Krav is just based on disengagement as quick as possible - it's not really good sport or MMA material because the mentality is entirely different.

I did Krav for a short while, but I found grappling to be more beneficial to my job role (we had severe restrictions on striking, but holds and locks were approved so long as we didn't cause ligament/joint damage), but from what I saw it was simple and logical - ideal for someone not looking to win a street fight, just survive one.

>Boot on his foot
What?
Who the hell said anything about that, ever?

oh... no i don't care about your argument, i just don't want your life's savings. and also your life's savings is pathetic enough to fit in a vagina, that or your wife's cunt is stretched-out enough to fit a respectable amount of cash.

Practicing martial arts when you dont compete is literally the biggest waste of time there is.

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Pulls out knife
>Ded

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Pulls out gun
>Ded

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Throws high kick
>Miss
>Get fucked

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Robbers friends show up
>Get fuck stomped

>
>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>pulls out dildo
>Gets mauled

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Robber lifts more than 4pl8
>Get destroyed

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Be manlet
>Get fucked

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Robber turns out to be a trap
>Fall for her charms and suck the dickie

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Yakuza
>Wake up with your dick in a cheese grinder

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Itallian mafia
>Wake up with your balls mashed for tonights spagethi

>Guy wants to rob you in alley
>"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice."
>Robber throws pigeon
>Get kaw kawed

You fucktards

>all these third grade-level insults out of nowhere
It's clear why you had to work as a bouncer you fucking brainlet

Bruh, he's trolling you, he's not me.

Wew lad
This board is full of wrestlers/boxers

He's not me either. What a little faggot

Yeah, it's what everyone got into during late highschool.
5 years time this board will be flooded with MT fags.

I kind of agree with you. My old instructor was stabbed in the gut and survived by chance. An inch to the left and he would have cut the thorasic artery and my mate would have died in less than a minute.

On the other hand it's better than nothing. If you can get a hold of the knife arm attack a pressure point break his knee and stomp on his throat instinctively, then that's something. Assuming there's no oprion to make distance when it comes out that's better than nothing. I was taught military martial arts on top of a background of tkd,thai boxing, boxing, arnis, jiu-jitsu. The thing about military styles is they are simple as fuck. Almost everything boiled down to a broken knee, a takedown or knockout if they're still up, and then a stomp on the head or throat. End the threat asap, keep it simple due realities of stress and worn equipment that lowers mobility.

Better to know a few techniques well than many techniques poorly. Imo

Trolls trolling trolls?

>still defending krav maga like it's just "another martial art"

you're one of those people that think in a know rules fight just because you'd try to gouge their eye, kick them in the groin, or go for their knees that a krav maga guy would beat anyone in a street fight

ALL that is, is fighting like a complete pussy. Defending your life is the ONLY excuse to act like such a complete pussy.

an equally skilled kickboxer/muai thai/taekwondo expert would beat the krav guy 99.999% of the time unless by sheer luckhe caught them off guard by going straight for a pussy move like an eye-gouge before they were even ready to fight yet

You should of course compete but it's a young man's game. One day you'll be 70 and perhaps still be practicing. And still want to defend yourself. I've trained with 65 year old men who could knock me out before I knew what was happening and I have 5 wins in boxing

how the fuck do i even start learning kickboxing?

there's a gym that has about 6 classes a week, do i just sign up for them? wont i be thrown in with dudes with 10 years experience

Did you consider them your boyfriends? The old men I mean. Or was it just playful rough sex with no strings? I'm... friends with the most recent one you "trained with."

You will just need to suck their dicks in the locker room and it'll be fine.

Where are you pulling this from man?

Look up Krav Maga, it was created by a professional Boxer and Wrestler, what else would he build a system around?

You'd find in a ring someone who trained in Krav from anywhere that isn't a McDojo would perform pretty similarly to someone who trained in boxing and wrestling.

In regards to eye gouges, those are very situational, and really only done in response to very specific things - it's drastically overstated in importance in media.
In regards to groin strikes, they're really only done because it's quicker and easier to hit the groin then anywhere else with a rapid strike, or to open someone up.
Say you have someone in a seatbelt grip, ala Muay Thai, and you try to knee them in the head/chest but they've managed to put up a decent guard - your shin can easily reach their groin and can make them drop their guard enough to get a strike in.

Anyone going repeatedly for the groin will just get blocked.

I only trained with that guy 3 times. He was 8th dan black belt in both tkd and karate and the originator of tkd in my country. He hit a series of pressure points up my arm ending on the neck and I dropped like a sack of wet shit before I could even react to him hitting my forearm

>Gutpunching

Do we have a vid, Houston?

If they've got experience they can spar with control. More dodgy to fight an amateur friend in your backyard who doesn't know the difference between hitting to teach and trying to knock your teeth out.

They'll teach you don't be afraid. Find a club with an environment you like, they're all different, the people are more important than the style especially if it's anllre hybrid of several traditional martial arts a place that focuses on competition like a boxing gym

They'll run you on basics and then put you with someone who cab train at your pace for you.

At my gym we all take turns sparring/leading the new guys - anyone who acts like a cunt is kicked out.

Some of us aren't fortunate enough to live in an area where we can legally carry a firearm user, so your point is exaggerated and otherwise moot.

What you didn't bother to find out was that he's a 9th dan black belt in falling in love with you.

>JLB
>legend

So your mother then, for example: kicked out for sure, right?

Yeah, she can be a right cunt sometimes.

Don't I know it. A real pro at sucking dick though, top notch.

Serious?
Bitch hasn't sucked me off since I turned 16, said I was old enough to make my own cummies.

Yeah, it's annoying, you have to fuck her butt first. Bitch loves the taste of her own feces. Not surprised she's too retarded to communicate that to you.

You sure you have the right lady?
She has a colostomy bag after her car accident.

Martial arts threads should stay on /asp/.

It attracts too many try hards who don't seem to get the atmosphere here.

everything else practical for fighting and killing someone has been sporterized
it wouldnt be a tv sport if you had guys immediately going for eye gouges, armbreaks, etc

you guys are fucking pathetic

>doing something you enjoy simply because you enjoy doing it is literally the biggest waste of time
Ok.

Not many people with a judo base in mma, also this thread is just garbage

>He never got a gobby from my mum.
Kek, never gonna make it.

What up now MMApussies?

youtube.com/watch?v=1Xw5wjwVkFc&t=55s

>bigger guys
for y-you

only french and dutch kickboxing holds a candle to muay thai, the sheer emphasis on points and constant bouncing is sort of ridiculous and detrimental; for normies especially, kickboxing is absolutely entry level

muay thai requries more time and effort to be well versed, but the rewards are immense

Name 5 gyms that practice "real Krav Maga." I've never heard of any of them.
>just as good as a boxer and wrestler
Kek fucking delusional

Is Boxing a useless form of MA?

The problem is that there are no KM places that are not McDojos. All you fuckers do is pride yourself on your dirty fighting but never pressure test it because it's "too deadly for the street."

Help, I can get uchimata to work properly. I can enter fine but when it comes to actually throwing my opponent I fail miserably.

That will happen unless you do one of the knockdown styles (kyokushin, seidokaikan, ashihara, enshin or kudo/daido juku). Sign up for one of them and you'll find yourself in a room full of 18-30 year old men who lift on the side who want to spar seriously and compete.

Again, where are you getting your info from?

There's a few worldwide federations that provide accreditations for instructors that meet set standards, due to the prevalence of McDojos any instructor worth using will be happy to show you their accreditation/have you check their accreditation with their federation.

Look for KMG, IKMF, SAKMF as the big three - there's also IKMA and KMW/A, but they train entirely differently to what you would want from a street fight point of view.

In regards to "pressure tests" we spar, just like any other martial art, there's a few rules in sparring (ie, no eye gouges, no strikes to the side of the knee, no spitting) but it's largely similar to kickboxing sparring.
The reason you don't see Krav Maga in tournaments etc is because there's no point - there's already boxing, kick boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai, etc tournaments - there is no niche to fill, so why make an oddly specific MMA style sport?

You have to believe in the heart of the cards.

No, it's very good for teaching guards, basic striking and movement.
Just combine it with a kicking sport and a grappling sport.

>tfw I can't stop apologising after a beat someone during a match or sparring session.

When I see then flop onto the ground I just feel so bad.