Communism is the most Veeky Forums ideology

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good post

No, fascism is clearly the most Veeky Forums. Not that we should do it...

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this thread is so reddit it hurts

who here /lrg/?

Yeah if you want to work all day but eat nothing.

>Selling your wife for a piece of cheese

>says the tripcode
ok

Isn't it the best music for lifting heavy things?
youtube.com/watch?v=V4GWyd7vhj0

The great thing about capitalism is that you don't have to work for a guy that'll fuck your wife. Commiecucks would insist that her means of production be shared with the community though.

It's time to stop, friend. Let the delusion end here, and stop letting your supervisor metaphorically and literally fuck your wife.

Can't redistribute gains, faggot. Can't eat big to get big if there's no food.

All you've got is your nation of under nourished manlet skele-fags.

nah

not user, but i'll break down capitalism for you in terms of fucking wives since that's on your mind.

capitalism works as such: you are born into this world with whatever is given to you. some are born into a world where they can fuck whichever wife they choose, some are born into a world where they don't even have one wife to fuck. it's shitty, but there's a plus side; put in hard work, gain skills, and be personable and you will eventually begin to gain the right to fuck others wives. if you're really smart and lucky, you can reach a point where no one can touch your wife, but you can fuck thousands of wives. hell if you work hard enough and smart enough you can reach a point where no one can fuck your wife and you can still fuck a handful of wives(small business if you aren't following). or you can reach a point where people will pay you to fuck their wives (self employment). that's the deal, it might not be great, but you have the ability to change your position if you have enough willpower.

how communism works:
you can occasionally fuck your wife, and you fuck other peoples wives, but you will never reach a point where there isn't someone fucking your wife, and you'll never be able to escape that truth.

>Haven't eaten in 8 months
privileged capitalist swine! i haven't eaten in 10! you are clearly hoarding wealth. the commissar is on his way to your home to execute you for crimes against the proletariat

Reminder that communism is literal slavery.

but lifting is a testament to inequality and hierarchy though

theres a reason the manlets are segregated in concentration pits you know

communism is literally the most cuck tier ideology possible.

capitalism is the only system that respects the free will of the individual.

Dude it's a joke

>tripcode
>doesn't get old Veeky Forums memes
>calls people reddit
Go back to sharing your gf with jamal

>gym starts new policy to redistribute gains
>every week, the total amount of gains is equally divided amongst the members
>gym owner promises that this will somehow raise everybody's gains
>10 years down the line
>gyms are flooded with immigrants from gyms two towns over
>immigrants have no stake in the gains in the gym
>original hard working citizens are working their asses off to see a little bit of gains
>some of the bigger guys either left or became much smaller

>but hey, at least we get our gains for free, unlike those savages at the Unified Streets of Barbells

I can taste the fear in your anus

Ok, let's assume this is true. What if it were somehow possible to share your gains with your Auschwitzes and your hamplanets? Wouldn't you want to do this to better the average standing of the people?

The likeliest answer to that is going to be "no", as you've spent years, and sacrificed time and effort for this goal. The rest did so only haphazardly. Granted, there are the fair few with thyroid disorders, but the vast majority are unproductive and lazy. Why would you want to help those people out?

places like Veeky Forums and /pol/ think that socialism means the governments takes everything

but socialism is actually about the workers owning the workplace and the capital, so they get paid fairly for the work they accomplish. Instead of the capitalist profiting off of others work and paying workers a shitty low wage.

capitalist propaganda too stronk

it's more like the gym ruling class takes all the gains while the working class has to lift weights all day. Then the gym capitalists give the lifting class a small amount of gains as wages, as opposed to the gains they actually created.

What are stock options?

Oh wait, that's "evil capitalism" and somehow completely different

>communism: take what the government gives you, no questions asked, otherwise you get killed
>capitalism: take what you earn for yourself, no questions asked, otherwise you starve

nice try, you puerile, uneducated retard.

>but socialism is actually about the workers owning the workplace and the capital, so they get paid fairly for the work they accomplish

IRL example of aforementioned economic system being successful?

>the swoletariat

Classic Hayek shit. It's total crap tho, only someone as autismo and trust fund as him would think workers have any real choice over their jobs under capitalism.

>but socialism is actually about the workers owning the workplace and the capital, so they get paid fairly for the work they accomplish.

No, that's a meritocracy, you fucking moron.

protip: capitalism is more meritocratic than communism/socialism

The Communist Manifesto was written with westerners in mind, not subhuman slavs

You see, you need to read marx late letters. that is where its at. thats REAL communism, not the ones that were practiced and unanimously failed.

I swear Veeky Forums is worse than /r9k/. At least the robots are aware that their depression stems from loneliness.

There are several business models with worker owned stuff. Famous examples would be Arup, John Lewis, Waitrose and many cooperative businesses. They tend to be more on the whiggish middle class end of socialism tho.

For national level type change usual touch stones are Yugoslavia, Cuba, anarchist Catalonia. We're currently seeing one potentially develop in opposition to ISIS in the middle east too.

>any real choice over their jobs under capitalism.

it's pretty fucking easy to switch jobs in the US. you just have to be willing to do shit you might not necessarily be happy with, like move, take out a loan, etc.

Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch
Working men of all countries, Unite! Sounds better in German, but at heart its still utter dog shit.

come on mate.

Anarchist Catalonia was a complete shitshow with factions more likely to kill each other than the fascist government they were supposedly at war with. Read Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" and you'll see just what a waste that whole system was.

In either case, Yugoslavia and fucking Cuba shouldn't be a "touch stone" in any shape or form though as they were unmitigated disasters as well...

>Yugoslavia
Fucking kys

From what i've seen most fit people are right leaning

anyone have any examples of leftist fit people?

>Famous examples would be Arup, John Lewis, Waitrose and many cooperative businesses.

so the successful iterations of this would be capitalist businesses, willingly driven by profit.

>For national level type change usual touch stones are Yugoslavia

ah yes, Yugoslavia, now several separate countries where nothing bad ever happened and are still totally socialists.

>Cuba

an authoritarian dictatorship which hasn't been able to keep up with the development of the rest of Latin America and is famous for throwing homosexuals in concentration camps. solid.

>Catalonia

for the short time it existed, i'll give you that one. I do legitimately wonder what would have happened if it had been given more time.

Nothing wrong with Tito. Lead a massive chunk of the world, and now look where we are without that leadership: massive moves away from Islamic secularism to extremism, droves of African and Middle Eastern immigrants. Imagine if that had happened in the cold war.

Anyway, best example of bottom up communism that held its own against sovietism.

You've not read it, you're giving second hand opinions. Someone's confused HtC with the later shit about Orwell working for the British govt and fucking over a bunch on the left.

Jews aren't white

Are you from America?

I have read it, I love George Orwell.

In either case, he said that at first Catalonia had a magnificent utopian feel to it, but it quickly devolved to sectarian fighting because the parties all wanted more power. So they were more likely to fight each other than their common enemy, even when the fascists were at their doorstep.

>capitalist businesses, willingly driven by profit.
You're confusing one specific iteration of socialism (early 20th century around the inter war period that the Austrian school argued against), with worker owned initiatives (which aren't necessarily socialist). Workers, according to Marx et al, are to own the means of production because they're entitled to the fruits of their labour. It's not at all incompatible with Lockean property rights. It's more about whether someone who claims ownership of the means of production is entitled to work product without doing any work/creating value.

>rest of Latin America
Famously deeply capitalist Latin America? Huehue.

>now several separate countries where nothing bad ever happened and are still totally socialists.
Exactly. Thanks capitalism!

Are you about to claim to be Yugo you cheeky fucking stranac?

One piece of context you may need is the USSR funding pro Franco groups. The Soviets were strongly authoritarian socialists, they feared above all any kind of anarchist style socialism coming about. So where he's lamenting certain groups being called pro fascist, it's probably true.

The fact of the matter doesn't change that any attempt at such a socialist utopia is incredibly fragile. Critique it all you want, but capitalism is an extremely robust framework, which more or less efficiently distributes resources and allows for a degree of meritocracy.

It's certainly not perfect, but I fail to see an even remotely viable alternative, except for very constrained samples, which were either tiny, or lasted very small amount of time.

It baffles me how people conflate Marx criticism of capitalism, which is outstanding, with the proposed solution to the capitalist problem.
Capitalism in its current form is shit, but that doesnt necessitate communism.

As long as automation can't replace human labour I'm against communism. When we can enter a Star Trek-esque utopia without having to base our economic systems on "good will" or being charitable, I'll be first in line to be called a communist.

Well done

>The fact of the matter doesn't change that any attempt at such a socialist utopia is incredibly fragile.
Where you've got to be careful tho is that capitalism itself is fragile enough. We live in a time where we know previous great civilizations rose and fell, and we're currently trying to outrun our own civilization's demise in many ways.

Capitalism right now tho is far more robust than it was, but it fucks itself up every few years and had to change massively a little less than a century ago.

Despite the fact that it spasms every so often, once can hardly look at the alternatives and say that they're any better. Capitalism has arguably had the most solid run out of all the economic systems out there (if we don't include pre agricultural times, we shouldn't as the societies were very different back then)

I'm almost the other way. I feel like post scarcity will aways be limited in some way (there'll always be some gold pressed latinum) and that means we'll be limiting our own creative efforts by having a reduced toolset or palette or whatever metaphor you want to use. I also find the idea that economics has to be done away with a little weird.

In a practical sense, I like Chomsky on this. We have the ability to do things like feed ourselves in a post scarcity sense, that's enough to free people up to work as they want. I find it troubling in its own way but it's alright.

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>Communism is the only ideology for me
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I am not Communist anymore ;_;. I want to be a communist but not being a faggot is making it very hard

These.

>that is where its at. thats REAL communism

take your meme ideology elsewhere

I hate commies more than anything. People who even joke about communism are normalising it and should be hanged, drawn and quartered for high treason.

Post your Five Year Plan comrades.

How can you be swole under communism? It's perma-cut all day erry day. Here are some authentic jokes from the Soviet union:

Midnight Petrograd... A Red Guards night watch spots a shadow trying to sneak by. "Stop! Who goes there? Documents!" The frightened person chaotically rummages through his pockets and drops a paper. The Guards chief picks it up and reads slowly, with difficulty: "U.ri.ne A.na.ly.sis"... "Hmm... a foreigner, sounds like ..." "A spy, looks like.... Let's shoot him on the spot!" Then he reads further: "'Proteins: none, Sugars: none, Fats: none...' You are free to go, proletarian comrade! Long live the World revolution!"

Q: How do you deal with mice in the Kremlin?
A: Put up a sign saying "collective farm". Then half the mice will starve, and the rest will run away.

During the famine of the civil war, a delegation of starving peasants comes to the Smolny, wanting to file a petition. "We have even started eating grass like horses," says one peasant. "Soon we will start neighing like horses!" "Come now! Don't worry!" says Lenin reassuringly. "We are drinking tea with honey here, and we're not buzzing like bees, are we?"

An old woman asks her granddaughter: "Granddaughter, please explain Communism to me. How will people live under it? They probably teach you all about it in school." "Of course they do, Granny. When we reach Communism, the shops will be full – there'll be butter, and meat, and sausage … you'll be able to go and buy anything you want..." "Ah!" exclaimed the old woman joyfully. "Just like under the Tsar!"

A man walks into a shop and asks, "You wouldn't happen to have fish, would you?". The shop assistant replies, "You've got it wrong – ours is a butcher's shop: we wouldn't happen to have meat. You're looking for the fish shop across the road. There they wouldn't happen to have fish!"

That's not how you spell Nazism

well done