Is nofap just a meme or has there ever been a study on it showing physiological or psychological improvement?

its a meme perpetuated exclusively by loser turbovirgin who want to believe stopping masturbation will turn them into men they never were.

Is noporn good too? I'll still fap when horny but not to any porn, only my mind

Noporn is also a huge meme.

>Is nofap just a meme
YES. It's a stupid troll/meme intended to make you miserable for the amusement of trolls.

>has there ever been a study on it showing physiological or psychological improvement?
NO. Masturbation is NORMAL and NATURAL and BENEFICIAL -- IN MODERATION.

IF YOU ARE ADDICTED TO PORN: Quit being a dumb shit and knock that off. Get AWAY from porn.

IFYOU ARE FAPPING >9000 TIMES A DAY: Knock that shit off, too. Find something else to do, you are BORED. ONCE a day is acceptable. Otherwise you're being a dumb shit.

EXTREME ANSWERS ARE NEVER THE SOLUTION. Beware of them.

b6 lowers prolactin levels, do you think it would be enough to counter the effects of a fap session?

>he actually thinks he can convince dumb shits that masturbating a few times a week is bad for your health
>none of those articles says a goddamned things about masturbation
trolololololol

No fap is plain retarded, just look up what porn addiction does to you and quit porn. Once you've been abstaining from porn for a week or so and fapping only on imagination, you'll not only fap less often but you'll also have less sexual thoughts and craving for porn which will free up some time in your schedule.

I wake up with rock hard erections every morning. Why shouldn't i jerk off to make it go away?

Just go pee, it'll go away.

There's nothing wrong with watching porn. Stop that bullshit already.

NoFap is a meme but fapping twice a day erryday is worse. NoFap is for weak cunts that can't just lower fap-per-week volume. Couple of times a week is more than enough if tou have sex/get bjs.

You guys know what? With all this talk and hype about nofap and masturbation. Why can't we put together indiegogo page and found new research on this?

This topic is debated almost everywhere where men get together on the internet. Veeky Forums reddit, fittness forums, self improvement sites, twitter and so on. Then there is the youtube video about porn and how bad it is which has millions of views.

Why not get in contact with some researchers that has the relevant competence and found them to do the research?

We could get big internet names on board with this. People like Dr Jordan B Peterson would probably retweet it and help it get attention.

Pretty sure this is doable. Thoughts?

Just wondering what would a porn addiction look like?

Because I personally got way too much porn on my computer and keep downloading more, even tho I fap only once or twice a week.

Looking at porn and masturbating is not natural. Fucking kike

Because you're spilling your seed which contains the lifeforce and receiving no fluid exchange from a partner. No one is saying no sex. Don't be a wanker and just fuck some puss.

You would be called an anti semite

How does the thought of deleting all this porn and abstaining make you feel? Can you masturbate without it? Do real women you come across in your day-to-day make you feel horny?

>thought of deleting
Feels like a waste after downloading all that. I want to delete the shit I dislike so I can have more space and not have to sift through things I dislike when I want to fap

>abstaining
It's fine, sometimes I go a couple of weeks without fapping, sometimes twice in one day. Never had an issue with HAVING to fap.

>masturbate without
Yeah, tho most time I go without it's when reading some erotic story kinda deal.

>Do real women make you horny
Oh, yeah. Never had an issue there.

It's just that the porn tracker I use has a top 100 list of weekly torrents that I usually check out and download maybe 10 torrents out of all that. Then next time I download more, and most of the time the old stuff just sits there.

So what I'm wondering is if I got a porn issue or is it just digital hoarding, which would be fucking annoying.

Sounds like hoarding.

Addiction would mean you couldn't go 1 month+ without fapping to porn and in some cases feeling a need to synchronize to what you see by imitating the actions.

To check for porn damage:
A. Just fuck a girl and see if any problems occur when trying to enter the pussy

To check for addiction
1. Just fap whenever without porn and see if you start to make up reasons on why to use it. Keep track of the days so you don't blur the line.

He's certainly got that 9 day no fap stare

That would just make even more fun

Nah man. All these people's lives suddenly became more fulfilling and lively because they stopped grabbing their dick and tugging it. This self-pleasure really ruins their lives.

jerk it to porn or just mind?

The major reason i can come up with is that you brain litterally thinks you are having sex with a women every day. So while talking to real girls you feel no need to advance on them and you automatically put yourself in a beta position.

It is literal pseudoscience. So is "noporn" except in the case of addiction, which isn't the porn but the addiction being the problem.

Mind. Or porn if you do it in moderation, like once a month.

The only benefit of nofap is that when you do fap after a long time it feels fucking amazing.

I think there's a shred of rationality behind the idea of noporn. Not only does your brain become accustomed to extremely explicit acts and "idealist" hot women as arousal, but it also removes you from the sexuality, often viewing another man have sex with the girl (don't know how POV would be regarded in this case). I think over time your brain will react less sexually to every day things, makes it harder to have sexual arousal and interest to chase women who are just hot rather than bare or nearly nude performing acts on your screen on demand.

Just my 2 cents. NoFap is a meme though.

I've deleted my porn folder several times but I always end up starting a new one.

Is it true that fapping a lot gives you mantits?

Personally it helped me. Maybe its placebo, maybe not, I'd try it out.

As a jew, calling someone an anti semite for FUCKING RESEARCH would be the stupidest most retarded thing in the history of mankind.

Seriously, research is an objective means, it can't be anything-ist, not racist, not sexist, not anti-semetic, anything. (Assuming that your researchers are bona fide of course...)

i did a 7 day no fap because my girlfriend had to get her IUD taken out, and i wasnt able to come with a condom on. day 8 we had sex with a condom and it felt a lot more sensitive, and i didnt have any problems. gonna limit myself to 2x a week jerkin off to try and maintain the sensitivity

its a meme. ONE study showed increased test levels after 7 days. It was a small peak and wont do shit for your gains. At all. Its god damn useless. And after those 7 days it went back down to normal.

quitting porn is only for people who are addicted. Normal people can watch porn without any issues at all.

because it has been studied, and the findings doesnt affect muscle gain or your feeling of "alphaness", at all.
The only reason why its still debated its because people are god damn retarded, and think temporary increase or decreases in hormones have any effect on your body. it doesnt.
And there is a second group of retards who think studies on people with porn addiction applies to normal people. It does not. Then somehow this is also linked with muscle gains, because they lack loic and jump to magical conclusion like a flat earth believer.

Fuck noporn and nofap. They are both god damn useless for normal people. The only ones who benefits from it are addicts.

It's good to masturbate in moderation, every other day. And if you feel tired, take a week off to discipline yourself and recharge.

But to do it for months...

nofap is a meme, but no porn is real

You're right, but that doesn't stop researchers who do controversial studies from losing their careers by being essentially blacklisted after being labeled racist, sexist, etc.

Remember that science is run by humans, and is therefore susceptible to human issues such as, like in this case, cultural taboos.

There doesn't exist any reliable proof to this assumption. Noporn is something like vegetarianism. There is some research and some adepts, but they don't have any scientificaly strong arguments.

It is unscientific to draw conclusions on no-fap from forums, blog posts and a singular chinese study, but it's also unscientific to dismiss the entire idea of no-fap as pseudoscience. Just because a field of study lacks data doesn't make it hogwash. It just means we have to try, explore and and see for ourselves what knowledge can be gained. There are plenty of hypotheses on why it works or why it doesn't. Are the benefits purely psychological? Placebo? Or are there neurotransmitters and hormonal changes at work? Dopamine/Testosterone? Does it tie in with pornography and sex addiction? Who's the target patient and what parameters are relevant?

It's all in the hips bro

...

I have a pretty serious porn/masturbation addiction that is negatively affecting my life, and I want to stop watching porn (and perhaps even masturbation altogether).

The problem is, I'm a "hikkikomori" and I literally never leave the house (if not once every few years for burocracy), and I havee no way of changing this fact, at least for now.

The only female I see IRL is my mother.
I'm 24, so my body is telling me to reproduce, and I'm a very horny guy (and always been), but have no way to calm those urges outside of fapping, so I'm afraid that if I quit porn/masturbation my life would just become worse from the accumulating frustration that would result from basically cutting myself completely from women.

What would you do if you were in my situation?

Please keep in mind that I can't lift or do any exercise, because of the health problems that got me stuck in my house in the first place.

>has there ever been a study on it showing physiological or psychological improvement?

no of course not, nofap is pushed by desperate virgins who think it will magically solve their problems

It's a meme created and proliferated by religious zealotry, misinformation and pseudoscientists who don't know a thing about what they talk about.
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>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

posted like a TRUE BRAINLET

i can't imagine anyone with an iq above 90 TYPING LIKE YOU DO

Why can't you leave the house? Physical issue or psychological one?

Try to get a job, even if it's some dead end flippin burgers deal. Daily interaction with people can get you better.

From there work on improving your social skills, not sperging around good looking women.

When I was even more socially inept than now(not that good now either but ehh) I just made myself not think about how hot girls are when talking to them and just talk as if they are some random person. Pick normal topics, avoid staring and so on, but don't go full autism and don't even look at them or look at your shoes 24/7.

But if you stay at home all the time then you may not have many ways to improve.

noporn is legit

masturbating to porn fucks up your perception and sex drive, to the point that extended porn use will cause you to lose interest in women and sex outside of porn

masturbate to your imagination or girls youve already fucked, you'll be a lot better off

Glorious nofap redpill poster here you finally fucking are
i always try and tell people in these threads that it's bullshit which will kill your sex drive,erections,among other things but didn't have the links to the papers,thank you

Guys,this is coming from a former advocate of NoFap : QUIT.THIS.SHIT,period.NoPorn has way more benefits.

Masturbating with a healthy frequence is normal and healthy,keep doing it ffs. Moreover,after day 30,you'll start to experience bad shit like semen in your urine,globs of semen which will make your piss thick and painful when transiting through your urethra

does vidia fuck your dopamine receptors too?

>nofap for two months
>first week feel amazing, killing it in the gym
>have surgery for hip problem
>rehab in local 'health club' filled with rich, middle-aged women
>no more benefits, can't stop thinking about sex
>woman (50-60 years old) with mondo gazungas gets in pool
>lose my fucking mind
>go home and have the best wank of my life
>back to porn addiction

pic related

Just a reminder

Personally, I notice a difference in confidence and energy, but it might be a placebo

You have to break the loop at some point, just force yourself to go out.

Also even if you're home all the time, try to spend less time on the internet, limit it down, and in the hours that you have left do something else, read a book, do some workouts in your room, etc, occupy yourself with something else other then internet.

quitting porn has for lack of a better word recalibrated my sex drive

i don't feel like jerking it to traps or any of the other stupid shit i got into, just imaging a hot girl that i saw on the street that day is enough for me now (something that hasn't been possible for me since i first started watching porn like a decade ago)

i wouldn't recommend doing noporn and nofap at the same time though, just quitting porn on its own is hard enough, definitely would not have been able to do so if i wasn't still jerking it regularly

also there are a lot of porn addicts on this site who have given up on life, don't listen to them and power through it.

Thank you very much for the advice, but it's physical, not mental (altough I do have mental problems from staying many years inside the house, but they don't prevent me from doing anything).
Also not socially awkward. My problem with women is that I don't even meet them in the first place (and that I'm pretty ugly, but that's a non-issue for now).

My situation won't change anytime soon, so I'm not asking how to fix it (as I'm already doing everything that's within my possibilities to improve it), but whether it's a good idea or not to give up porn and masturbation, when they're my only alternatives to interacting with actual women, and without those I'd just have no sexuality, so I was wondering if my life would be better or worse in this "total repression mode".

I did nofap, around 20 days i got the balls to ask out my oneitis.
Turns out we traveled together and lost my kiss virginity to her at 35 days.
But still i was too retarded to fuck her when she asked for sex.
Nofap wont cure you of your social retardation, just makes you a bit more aggressive to get what you want.

Nofap just makes my more perverted fetishes come to the surface and take over my life

By day 7 or 8, 80% of my thoughts are perverted shit that distracts my normal life

I do this and its working great so far.

No fap killed my labido after awhile.

No porn is the cure.

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP

im nutting

You gotta wack it every now and then to make sure it's still working properly, not more than 4 times a day though