Why did Europeans allow this to happen?

Yet byzantine never fully used those opportunities to strike back. Even when ottoman turns into a chaos during interregnum they only managed to regain one or two provinces in the balkans. Fucking pathetic

They didn’t allow. They had no choice. Eventually perfidious Anglos and Dutch betrayed their European brothers for Turks tho.

Turks are European

Here's your first (You)

Protestant Germans and Dutch supported Muslim Turks.

Luther quite literally opened gates of Europe for Ottoman conquests.

>Ottomans conquer the Balkans more than a century before Luther
>Only take Hungary when Austria is busy with CATHOLIC France
>Ottoman army supported and trained by France
sure, not wanting letters of indulgence and translating the Bible LITERALLY opened the gates of Europe for the Ottomans!

What kind of retarded wh*toid excuse is this? Europeans launched countless crusades and "holy leagues" against the ottomans and only managed to stop them at the Great Turkish War with every major European power had to combine their power and they still lost cyprus.

wh*Toids are really retarded when it comes to history.

the protestants were openly hoping that Vienna fell in 1683, both in the HRE and Poland.

and so? didn't they hope hard enough or what?
The only European nation that actually supported the Ottomans was, again, catholic France.

>1683
Is this one of those Islamic conquest meme theories? Even if Ottomans captured Vienna it wouldn't matter at all, they were already overextended and by all means a rotting corpse, nothing like the power they had in between 14th-16th centuries.
Also if Protestant Hungarians (majority of Hungarian independence fighters , mind you) preferred Turkish Muslim rule to the Catholic Austrian one there's really something off, isn't it?

>European brothers
hi mutt :)

Nice joke , Abdul.

(((Martin "Luther" Goldberg)))
>european monarchs
>hey those turks are getting pretty strong, we should do something about them
>indeed

>be martin goldberg
>turks offers tons of gold if europe is destabilized
>wtf i hate catholism now
>*spreads nasty lies about the pope*
>*revolts against the one true faith*
And so another two more centuries of european infighting and hatred began

Never trust the big-nose tribe

They were not united.

The French were allied with the Ottomans, since their rivals were the Habsburgs.

As for the English... England was not in a good state after all that time of Civil Wars. They were quite weak. Henry VII spent his reigning trying to solve the throne's fiscal issues. Henry VIII was too busy killing Catholics (for being loyal to the Pope), Protestants who disagreed with him (because they were heretics or made him marry someone he didn't like) and Protestants who agreed with him (because WTF, he was a good Catholic, why in the hell are those heretics agreeing with him?).

And being the Holy Roman Emperor was like herding cats, since the German Princes were always hard to control. For example, a few centuries back, Frederick II was by far the most powerful man in his era, as King of Sicily. And he couldn't control the German princes. And the heresy being spread and leading to a huge war between German princes didn't help.

And even if they were united, the Ottomans were very powerful.

Do you think crackers had a chance against us?

They feared the Turkish warrior

They couldn't really do much about it, actually. The Turks were always from stronk militarily until around the 18th century when they started getting left behind as other empires started industrializing.

...

This is unironically accurate in that Turks are a bunch of warlike meatheads who are only good at war and nothing else, and have no achievements in half a millennia to show for themselves because they just stole all their knowledge from the Persians. Turks are barely better than horsefuckers, they both have societies that focus exclusively on war and then they simply take credit for the accomplishments of the people they conquer

>attracted to woman

>(F)ersian text

You're acting like the French allying with the Ottomans was a huge benefit for the Ottomans or something while it was the Ottomans who were protecting France from being curbstomped. The Ottomans just used the alliance as an excuse to war the Habsburgs.

France has spent centuries sending crusader armies against Turks before that. Last one being in 1396.

So you're post is irrelevant to OP's question.

Kicking wh*toid ass and protecting the middle east, asia and africa from warmongering wh*toids until the 18th century is an achievement worth admiring.

Too bad wh*toids discovered the earth was round and could just sail to the west and started terrorizing america, africa and asia that way.

I seriously hope you don’t believe that using a professional army to conquer a bunch of divided european lords is somehow impressive or done in the name of “protecting the Middle East” you realize that Muslims have been trying to conquer Europe for hundreds of years before the first crusade, right? And that they continued to try to conquer Europe hundreds of years after the last crusade? And yet in your mind the Turks are on the defensive when they had the best army in the world and were actively conquering smaller entities? Muslims have always been on the offensive because their society cannot survive with the resources available to them, they need to take from civilized neighbors or they won’t have enough in that desert, it’s the same reason why the Middle East is so weak now, the position is only strong when it’s unified and when they’re actively supporting their infrastructure with a steady supply of loot. Soon as the loot dries up, middle eastern empires crumble because they’re completely unsustainable without war. Your entire society is built around going to war, and you convince yourself this is defense when you literally have to conquer people in order to survive with a social structure like that? Any reason is an excuse, the same was true for the Romans.

Turks couldn't even steal "knowledge" from Persians, they try to steal their history too. Hell their ancestry is so cucked they are basically Mongoloid Antaolian rape-babies and can't even read their own language from a century ago because "Ottoman" Turkish is literally mixed so heavily with Greek, Persian, and Arabic that its unintelligible to them.

Not him but you are retarded.

>be turkish horse tribe
>migrate west because overpopulation/not liking mongol hegemony of the steppes
>conquer and settle anatolia
>your christian neighbours take every chance to fuck you over with crusades
>conquer them too
>appearantly you're the bad guy now

Stop posting meme maps.

>rape baby

I bet you are 100% 'white'.
Or do you use another classification that was made up by actual identityless mutts.

This one is pretty accurate though.

They tried. But Nicopolis was absolutely devastating that Europeans stopped doing crusades entirely.

Also the Pope & Hapsburgs kept on reviving a meme crusade versus the Ottomans but by that point, everyone just saw in those plans "EBIL HAPSBURG PLAN TO RULE YURUP."

Nobody is the bad guy retard, it’s just claiming that the Turk were “fighting defensively” when they were actively fighting for control of an extremely important trade route is ridiculous revisionism. They were conquers, they conquered Anatolia, they conquered Greece, they conquered half the damn continent and all of North Africa, was that all defensive? Stop being ridiculous.

>ITT "muh Luther"

While that is correct, truth is the Turks were already holding most of that balkan and northafrican clay long before Luther even happened.

Back then, Castille was in the process of crusading North Africa all the way to Jerusalem, but America happened. France also wanted to Crusade the Turks but shit with Aragon in Italy happened. Isabella wished for peace and compromise with France in order to fight together against the Turks, but Fernando was too butthurt about muh kingdom of Naples.

As for the Balkan front, after the failure of the last Crusade in 1396, Hungary was pretty much left on their own against the Turks by their neighbours. The HRE was a mess that became an even bigger mess when Luther happened and Austria simply profited and scavenged on the tough luck of others, particularly Hungary, in its own benefit.

The rest of Europe, England, Scandis, Burgundians, didn't give a shit about Ottoman advances.

You can conquer pre emptively though.

Just stop

>Turks in Slovenia
Nope.

t. "Turkic" rape-baby with no 'slanted' eyes or oriental eye-folds, brown skin, and is genetically the same as most Semites while larping as a yurt-dwelling steppe-nig

>(F) screeching

Kek nice stereotypes but did I touch a nerve you seem slightly butthurt.
Don't worry though youre probably 16/36 european or something.

(You) aren't good at this, my T*rk friend. The fact you are so ass-pained over the truth is hilarious though.

The true eastern Roman empire beat the fake larpers

Why would I be asspained everyone knows that our ancestors bred with the women of the people around them.
Its funny how you try to dodge the fact that you are nothing to europeans aside from a caricature of the western world.

Turks and Bulgarians are not European

they were stopping it but the ottomans funded the Protestants to rise up and they were allies with the ottomans.

Luther hated the Turks you mongloid

[citation needed]

>Bulgarians aren't European
HMM. Genetics say different.

Think again

>the only place when european is an identity is burgerland
And now those filthy *Nglos are exporting that cancerous idea to Europe.

>blah blah blah
>"our ancestors"
Sure thing cuck.

people kept thinking the turks were just a faraway nuisance, they basically took the byzantines holding back the turks for granted and didn't consider what would happen if the turks took the important key economic city of constantinople and the rest of the balkans.

you could replace turks with muslims in general

No, turks are KARA BOGA

they arnt good at war. they are good at zerg rushing with overwhelming numbers. they knew how horses work cause of the step and its the only talent they ever had

shut up subhuman cracker

>Lmao, who cares about that shithole~ spain and england
Hapsburg Spain under Charles V and Philip II waged a losing war against the Ottomans and their Algerian proxies in the Mediterranean, culminating in the Battle of Lepanto.

>Venice hollowed out Byzantium that they couldn't do shit
They tried to stay "friends" until the very last minute, because they are treacherous bastards who just wanted to make money.

no u

>thousands drowned
what on earth was this battle?

the BLACK bull scared the crackers, they tried to run away from the BLACK bull, but they failed and fell in river.

>Christian coalition against Turks formed
>raised thousands of knights
>approach Ottoman capital of Edirne
>find out the Sultan and his whole army is fucking around in Anatolia
>tfw we cannot possibly lose this
>start celebrating the night before the battle
>drink a shit-load of rakija
>half the army passes out
>city garrison attacks in the middle of the night
>HOLY SHIT IT'S HAPPENING
>guys, I have an idea, let's sober up in the river so we can fight
>drowns