/fraud/ - I don't have any fraud related pics edition

/fraud/ - I don't have any fraud related pics edition

read all of reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

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>Forgot to put /fraud/ in the subject line again

I'm gonna fucking kill myself

>dnp day 5 update

still no sides halfway through day 5

just fapped and my cum is yellow

not pure yellow but theres definitely a noticeable tint

In retrospect I probably shouldn't have made a new one until people needed it. Otherwise it's gonna die in like 10 minutes.

is cutting on 250 mg test e ew enough not to lose muscle or is it worth it to increase the dose to 500 mg ew

Let's keep it alive then.

Which reminds me....

Guys, 600mg Deca is going to fuck you up, I ignored it now I have a gyno lump kek.

Gonna blast that shit out with Femara.

Cut is going well. No fucking drive or energy at the gym but I don't feel awful otherwise and I'm losing fat faster than I ever have before.

Only 3-4 weeks to go and I'll be shredded as fuck at this rate, provided no major slowdowns.

Then I up test from cruise, add tren a back in, and slowly start ramping up calories.

So fucking excited. I completely fucked my first blast by being too fat. This time around I can bulk properly and actually see the results, instead of being covered in fat and water constantly

Gotta blast (dem nips)

These threads talk about illegal and very unhealthy stuff, right? Why are mods allowing this?

If all else fails surgery :-)

You're going 500mg test right?

If we were selling or giving sources to get this stuff, it would be illegal. But discussion isn't illegal.

That'd be like saying talking about smoking weed is illegal.

That's the plan.

hey man, I'd be dead without roids.
Healthy is in the eye of the beholder.

DNP threads are fine tho am i rite?

>Blood work comes in, im in 290 Test Range
>second blood work done in morning, 340 Score
>doctor says im in normal range for 26 year old

decide to self medicate. pic related every 5 days.

how long do i keep doing it for?

Go with E, inject once a week at 200mg.

>How long?

Until you die

its good to take a break from roids once i year imo, i feel dehumanized if im for 9months straight

200-250mg is perfect test dosage, great strength gains, recomping

when I hop on the TRT cruise I'm never stopping. 150 mg a week should put you around 650-800 ng/dL total test

with those quantities I think subq is the way to go. if you blast with 300-500/week go IM

Inject a gram of Test into your ass every other day until you die
Pic kinda related?

>3.5g test a week

LIGHTWEIGHT BABAY WHATEVER IT TAKES

Since i start take protein shake bpi best smors and creatine dymtize i start have headach and tiredness. Should i stop one of them or both?

im guessing E stands for testosterone enanthate?
what would be the difference in the two? dont they both raise T?

>600-800
sounds good to me, im not doing it for the Gainz. just for the stability and normalization. waking up with a boner is a thing that hasnt happened since early high scool

Test is test.
What I'm describing is the ester.

Google, now, you are NOT ready for roids.

i alredy had gyno surgery. can i have it again due to gear?

Just to add, they dont raise, they replace.

Correct me when wrong, don't they remove the glands that cause gyno?

If so, no more gyno?

Any of you niggers have experience with bpc157?
Is it actually worth trying?
All the "logs" I come across on the internet, even old ones, are never updated.
Does it give them turbo cancer or something?

I didn't know they sold test with a pack of cigarettes, I'll have to get in on that deal.

I'd recommend doing a little research before sarting. Test is test, yeah, but the difference in esters is important. The reddit link in the OP should have all the info you need, but googling a little bit wouldn't hurt either.
Also if you're going for a self prescribed kind of TRT, then the answer for "how long" would be "your whole life" since your test levels will likey always be low, assuming your excercise and diet are in check. That's what TRT is.

Good luck my dude, I wish you the best.

>poor cunt somewhat knows what he's talking about now
they grow up so fast

I'm so proud

Same thing happened to me, though my levels were slightly higher. Fucking criminal of the doctors to do nothing, in my opinion.

Make sure you don't have a thyroid tumor or something before jumping to self-medication.

Start with 100-150 mg/wk for TRT, split into two doses.

Some people can go 200-250, but not everyone. It generally puts you above natural levels (maybe 1200-1300 on a scale of 300-1100), which can cause some long-term health issues involving health markers like lipids and RBC. Or you might need AI, which also has long-term health repercussions.

You're going to run it forever, basically. Some people like to come off for a month or two every year, while others like to just run HCG for a couple of months to wake up the balls.

>somewhat
It's not hard to go from completely retared to slightly less retarded if you just lurk the threads and read a bit. Also I wanna stop anyone from making the same big mistake that I did.

B-but thanks user.

How much additional lean mass do you guys normally get out of adding a dbol kickstarter to a test cycle? I know the weight gain would be much higher because of bloat and stuff, but I'm wondering about gains in lean mass. Haven't used it before.

idk thats why im asking

Honestly? Like .5-1lb a week. Maybe more depending on how hard you bulk and how well you respond.

Test takes so long to really take effect, it's not just blood levels but the upregulation of all the proteins and everything that test signals in the body. A Kickstarter is never a bad idea.

Is it worth fasting to lose fat if you're on gear? According to the scientific studies, fasting results in almost no muscle loss, compared to a fair bit from a caloric deficit. You also stop feeling hungry after 3-5 days.

Considering the steroids all but nullifies the muscle loss anyway on a cut, is it worth it, just for the fact that you stop feeling hungry, considering that's the main reason my cuts die off after a couple weeks?

I'd be fasting for a couple weeks. Supposedly the best way is to fast until you start to feel hungry again.

Ok, thanks. I'm really looking forward to it. Won't be for another couple of months, though.

Christ man, you let them cut into you and don't even know what they actually did.

You then come to a mongolian shit shoveling website and expect a quick answer.

Google it.

Recomping on roids is a thing. I've made some of my best gains while losing fat.

I'm this fag I would not recommend a recomp while on anything except tren, and even then I'm not entirely sold. But that's mostly because I haven't tried it lol

I tried to recomp on my first test e blast, I wasn't exceedingly fat just 16-18% (obviously fat as fuck but not obese is what I mean). I fucking wasted so much time on blast for that bullshit. Yeah, I did end up recomping. But barely and it wasn't worth it. Gained a total of 5-10lbs and lost maybe 4-5% bf at most. Over a period of 16 weeks.

Diet was on point. 1-1.5g/lb bodyweight protein, 30-100g fat (depending on protein choice, usually closer to 50g) the rest carbs from rice, cereal (not sugary it was wheat cereal, 0g sugar), bagels, etc at 14-16x total bodyweight for calories. Obviously lifted a ton. Could've done more cardio/conditioning though, and probably more volume in total but I was addicted to 75-90% 1RM work at the time.

I have the easiest recomps on a small stack. Yes Tren is amazing but some Deca, Mast and Var work wonders as well.

All in all, I'd rather have some very minor gains with fat loss then just fat loss. Makes me feel tiny if that makes sense.

>skip tren, say Ill stop pmsf
>next day pin tren, do pmsf
It keeps happening


>650-800 ng/dL total test
Maybe if you have underdosed test

If they removed every little bit of the gland youre gucci
Even a bit left and it can regrow
You need ai anyways though

Like a 1 or 2 day salt water fast isnt unheard of for some extra shreds

>make new thread just then
>realise one already exists
>cant delete shit on my mobile for whatever reason

We're both retarded

>extreme back pumps on 100mg anadrol from just walking my dog

I'm scared to do back day if it feels like this just walking around

is there a drug i can use to shut up that tiny littly whiny voice in the back of my head? fucking hate that negative son of a bitch and tren just makes it louder

Therapy

Modafinil does it for me. Allows me to stay focused on the task at hand and I constantly feel I want to be active

I've seen a lot of sources with verified gear showing a ratio of 5-6x dose to test, ofc if you combine with either compounds, e.g. Deca you can get to 8x or more

what is your estimate if you dose at 150 mg a week?

There's no one else I'd rather be retarded with, Crusader.

t-nation.com/workouts/bodybuildings-next-frontier

About to go on test and saw waterburys high freq method, would this be a good workout while on Test ?

Furry namefag

Jfc what the hell else is gonna hang out in /fraud/

>furry
That's a talking space rock, not an animal.
#owned

probably some little faggot who hates women and thinks his waifu is real

oh right

Hey /fraud/, I know that steroid usage isn't recommended for young people because of all the hormone problems. However, I was wondering if there is any kind of safer/low dosage cycle that would work better for an 18 y/o. Any advice?

>religious nutcase
Check
>gay pornstar
Check
>mentally ill bitch who miscarried
Check
>Drug addict who should be dead
Double check
>whatever the hell masT is
Check

There's too many characters to keep up with

>dbol
>lean mass

If you want non water balloon gains look for a dryer oral. On a side note idk why everyone reccomends dbol to newbies who dont know their ai dose or estrogen sensitivity

Jasper is real, she's just always helping Santa at the North Pole and never has time to visit me. Also the only woman I hate is my mother for bringing me into this god awful existence.

Please love me Jasper

response rates aren't linear. a 6x response on 500mg doesn't mean 6x on 100mg and 3g

check out blood reviews on sst or r/steroids for a better ballpark. it varies a lot from person to person, but 8-10x is a lot more common sub 200mg

No. Running AAS will shutdown your natty production and possibly fuse your growth plates.

So if you're willing to accept being on TRT for the rest of your life and being your current height forever, go ahead.

>I know I'm too young to do steroids, but can you tell me how to do steroids?
Please wait. Even a low dose could fuck up your endocrine system for life, not to mention potentially stunting your height growth. Then you'd be the eternally low test manlet, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
>mentally ill bitch that miscarried
Well, formerly. I don't suppose she'll be posting here anymore since you guys scared her off. She was pretty dumb to do that though.

FUCK IT FRAUD

I KNOW I SAID I WAS GONNA WAIT BUT FUCK IT IM GONNA DO IT NOW JUST GOTTA MUSTER UP THE COURAGE.

FUARK

Stay safe. Welcome aboard, the ride never ends

Well I'm primarily training for strength, and dbol is good for that.

I hope he says yes~

What the orher guy said
Dosed that low 8-10x is a better ball park

God dammit I didn't know I was this scared of needles fuck

How the fuck do I do this I'm shaking like a motherfucker

Christ you're a little bitch just jam it in or I'll ban you

Holy shit that was easy.

I feel like a bitch now, my bad guys.

Goddammit jerry you're such an asshole.

He rejected me

I still shake sometimes just due to it hurting from all the scar tissue. But you'll get used to it congrats!

>just due to it hurting from all the scar tissue.
dude it's time to switch sites lmao

But I'm already 6'1'

If I stopped growing now I wouldn't really care and I probably already have because of marathons and shit

Do I really have to wait until I'm 25? No gains past natty dyel for 7 years? Jfc

Th-thanks guys.

Although I was told there'd be like an ache or something. It doesn't really ache so I dunno, did I fuck up?
It's for the best, lil nigga.

Not until your 25. I'd say 20.

help.

I went to inject test into my quad, felt abit more of a sting. I aspirated, think I saw a small bubble but no blood. When I pulled out, a small squirt of blood followed the needle. The hole was bleeding alittle bit but I applied some pressure and its stopped. No blood has happened before.

Did I inject into a vein or something?

Sounds like you nicked it or something.

>skinnyfat blonde personal trainer teaching a male how to lift

Must be easy to get certified

>finish cruise cut at 5'8 172lbs
>feel puny compared go lord illidan so i go on blast
>1g test 800mg eq a week plus 40mg sdrol a day
>my muscles feel bigger and im leaner
>feel weird and hungry even if i eat 3k cals a day

damn, takin this much gear at my size really catapulted my metabolism and partitioning

That's what I was thinking. It's all good correct?

Also kinda curious what would happen if someone injects right into a vein. everyone says you dont wanna do it but always wondered why

extreme pain and possible death

Then why is everyone else saying 25?

>possible

Yea your right I'll start hitting delts some I guess, quads are just so easy. And no ache right now you might feel some discomfort tomorrow but you'll be fine.

Had to google Illidan. What are you gonna do to match those forearms?

They are gainz goblins

Homie I literally did my first pin like five minutes ago, you need to ask somebody else.

aw man I just pinned too we're pin buddies now

>forearms

nigga have you seen his deltoids and arms? only mortal with something that insanely large and defined would be roelly winklaar in his best condition

get your bloods senpai, "anabolic" test levels are something like 1700+
ps it's super super fucking hard to lose muscle even if you are natty. Just keep training and eating right don't worry about losing lean mass too much

>pin buddies
That's fucking gay

I love it

Atleast it didn't autofill your real name and email like I've accidentally done before but never submitted.

I just realised that the whole thing about supplements being shit, and you have to eat food because it is the real deal with the real micronutrients and stuff fucked me over.

I was avoiding supps because of that meme (which is true), but in short I wasn't getting what I needed at all because I hate eating, specially that much, and all that food would have been prohibitely expensive.

Now I bought whey protein, egg protein, creatine, vitamin c, spirulina, a multivitamin, and chia seeds to have every day. But I feel I am still trapped in a dank meme, watching shadow figures in a cave, while you guys are out having the real fun.

>tfw can't /fraud/
>tfw don't know if I'll make it

>if someone injects right into a vein.
depends on what you're injecting and what amount
like .5mg test straight into the blood isn't going to kill you, but it will make your heart beat insane

>I was told there'd be like an ache or something
first pin ever and cos your on Veeky Forums im assuming you didn't get a pump in the muscle group after

wait til tonight you'll feel it

Nice job buy $100+ of supplements when you could have just got chicken breasts and a multi

Can't tell if this is a joke or srs...
Ah man, I thought I'd get off easy or something. Oh well. It's gonna feel like DOMS isn't it?

That's the thing. If I spent the money I spent on supps on food I couldn't eat it all, plus it would have been much more money. I am saying that all those supps are probably jack shit compared to the hormone treatments you guys do

Yeah nah, first pin injection into a new site fucking sucks. Given your injection technique is probably something to be desired. You're going to get a fuck ton of pip in a few hours and last for a few days. But after 2-3 weeks of injections you won't feel a thing on test. Tren just feels like I've just been punched in mass everyday.

Because it's the most safe bet. But you're injecting questionably sourced bathtub chemicals. It's a fair thing to say that safety isn't a top priority to you. Also I'm biased since I started at 20

Tried to order a shoulderok while it was on that cosmetic blemish sale but shit sold out in like 2 minutes. Made my own with 3/4" gas piping and what not though. Not bad considering it would have only cost ~30$ even if I didn't already get it from work. Free versus 200$ full price. Seems to work pretty well. Would recommend to anyone with shoulder issues or anyone that benches heavy in general.

On a side note I feel like I'm fucking he-man swinging a sword around. I probably look like a swole sperg though desu

why recommend e when it's a slightly shorter half life than c, then recommend once a week?

is there a way to be a natty fraud?

I took 50mg of dbol, first time ever taking it.

Didn't lift today. Gonna lift tomorrow and take 50 pre workout.

Only effect I got from it was I'm hella fuckin hungry, which could just be from riding my bike around in the cold. But I do seem really abnormally hungry (ate a big dinner, 2 hours later I'm hungry again).

Like I said, no othet effects though. Not really any more horny. No psychological effects.

Sound legit?

Enanthate and Cypionate are so similar, in terms of biological half-life, that they are interchangeable. However, I agree that once a week is a poor suggestion. E3.5D is a much better choice for stable blood levels.