World War 3

What will it be like? We know it will happen (probably in this lifetime), but what will be the sides, the fronts, the stakes at risk? Maybe a new system will rise out of the ashes, or humanity will be its own demise.

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Humanity has needed a large-scale war for some time now. But this war, it will be fought with nuclear weapons and other tools of mass destruction. Humanity will have a second chance, a chance to rebuild and hopefully in the future avoid the need for another global cleansing. That is, if the Earth is even habitable by the time the bombs stop dropping.

It'll be fought with drones, nukes with either not be used or be ineffective if they are used, and it will be relatively bloodless for anyone not on the battlefield.

Side A:
USA
UK
Germany (as head of EU)
South Korea
Israel
Japan
Ukraine
various others

Side B:
Russia
China (maybe)
North Korea
Iran
Poland (maybe)

I think first and foremost there would be a huge front in the intermarium between Russia and Europe with Ukraine as one of the most important regions. The other big fronts would of course be North-South Korea and the Middle East (mostly in the Levant). Smaller fronts all over the place, lots of unconventional forms of combat, mostly chemical weapons and cyber attacks most likely.

Stakes would be ridiculously opaque. By the time nuclear weapons are brought to the battlefield, people will have had enough and turn to the UN for help. Then we'll have the UN calling for some kind of world peace. Religion will be a big blame for the war (Muslims will see the worst punishment most likely).

>russia invades more ex-sov countries
>nato fills all it's borders
>russia fills all borders
>middle-east about to run out of shit to steal
>some micro-wars in oceania and east-africa
>russia stops exporting gas
>norway is now american
>all oil is gone
>waterwars

yall know sgonna happen

Large scale wars are not fought anymore, like previous world wars. Whatever conflict will use conomic factors as a weapon, far more than before, combined with more tech that makes human troops less, and less relevant. It would be interesting to see nukes being used on targets in the 21st century

>poland siding with russia
just because they hate the eu means they would get in bed with the russians

Hypersonic unmanned aircraft carrying out precise strikes on military bases and production facilities. Ground forces consisting of power-suited infantrymen.
We’ll never see a war that involves the full scale mobilisation of entire societies like the first and second world wars.
Nukes will only ever be used if a society feels completely threatened existentially.
Between whom depends on a great number of variables but Friedman posits in The Next 100 Years that circa 2050 there will be a conflict between the US, UK, and Poland against Turkey, Japan and Germany.

We have reached another point in our history where the west is so used to fighting their technological inferiors that if war were to break out between two modern armies it would be a bloodbath not seen since WW1

Additionally, orbital surveillance and weapons systems will play a large role.

> it will be relatively bloodless for anyone not on the battlefield.

>Religion will be a big blame for the war (Muslims will see the worst punishment most likely).
>only one country in the entire conflict is muslim

I'm just dying to see your logic for this, if you have any to begin with

So the West is used to fighting Russia and China lately? Really, which conflicts?

This is a history board, user.

WW3 will be started over time machine technology

Time travel isn't possible

>Time travel isn't possible

Militaries around the world will be tied down locking down the borders to stop the climate/economic refugees, oil will be in too short supply after the financial system collapses to fight any large scale mechanized war, dissent will skyrocket and governments will barely be able to keep things from falling apart

this. everyone else is a brainlet. there will be many localized wars, civil wars, but another world war will not happen until civilization collapses and is rebuilt again.

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It'll just be continuous US proxy wars until the US falls.

WORLD WAR 3? IT CALLED SINGUALRITY YOU MEATBAG.

Leaving out Saudis on side A was shortsighted user. Imo, it is likely to start with Saudis vs. Iran and Syria

Are you clowns seriously suggesting that a modern western country in total war mode can't lock down its borders?

If Dems win in 2020 or take back control of the gov before then, I am positive that they will start a war with Russia. My guess is starting with an attempt to re-take Crimea and the Donbass.

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hell it could probably happen without many people knowing

World War 3 will be a huge clusterfuck of civil wars. The UN will collapse and it is doubtful that any country won’t be split between those trying to maintain it and those trying to end it. Eastern Europe is probably the safest bet for just declaring independence and banding together to make sure they don’t get spitroasted between Russia and Germany again. Nationalist forces will clash with globalists and the highly “diverse” areas in Europe will probably see caliphates sprout up in the chaos. There is a possibility that this could happen to the US too, though it would have much more clearly defined fronts and belligerents. Those being the countryside nationalists and the city dwelling socialists. No telling how the military and other armed forces will split if and when it happens. With the US distracted, the real shit would hit the fan, as China would probably take the opportunity to project force into the South China Sea and North Korea might even go for a balls to the wall last hope push to retake the south. No idea what might happen in the Middle East without big brother America’s hands down everybodies panties. Maybe the Muslims will try to destroy Israel again. Maybe Israel will conquer the rest of Palestine. I think Russia won’t get directly involved in conflicts if possible. They’ll instead sell to all sides and wait a year or two until they think they can snatch up old clay without much of a fight. Saudi Arabia will probably seek to profit from the wars too, instead of getting directly involved. Unless of course, the increased resource usage leads to a shortage of oil or water. Then it’s anybodys fucking game. That shit will go from a world war to an actual global societal collapse. Thinking about the future is fun.

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What's crazy is how many different tension points there are in the geopolitical system, how they are all escalating and one snapping would make all the others break too.

It's really a global apocalypse waiting to happen at any time.

I don't post there and have no desire to.

>Imagine the Congolese Civil War on a global level.

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This is interesting analysis, /k/. But you really need to stop masturbating as you explain it to us, the walls are still all sticky from the last time.

>Poland
>Ever siding with Russia

I guess the question is, what's most likely to happen first.

>Balkanization of the EU
>strike on North Korea leading to confrontation between US and China
>war between Saudis and Iran
>Russia vs. Ukraine
>Civil War 2, Electric boogaloo
>Western European civil war
>China grabbing Taiwan
>Economic collapse and quickly ensuing civil wars everywhere

Depending on which one happens first, the next things could be different

Is there any feasible way for America to unconditionally lose the war?

You're thinking too hard my dude. It'll be kick off with a Civil War in the United States. Other nations will try to insert themselves to change the outcome of the war and eventually the outsiders will start fucking with each other to make sure that they can't change the outcome of the US Civil War.

rbth.com/politics_and_society/2017/08/16/what-role-did-russia-play-in-the-us-civil-war_823252

projects.leadr.msu.edu/usforeignrelations/exhibits/show/british-involvement-in-the-ame

Of course, the US navy could hold off literally every nation on earth, even if they all came at once against the US, but they will all come claiming to help the US. So really I think the outcome of the next US civil war will be determined by the US navy commanders and who they allow through.

If the nukes come out then everyone loses.

Any massive global conflict will most likely start in Asia. The region is a growing powder keg as defense spending has risen to unprecedented levels in recent years. The United States since the the Obama administration has already moved to shift much of the US fleet to the Pacific Coast and advocated for the TPP as a means to counter rising Chinese economic influence.

With the Trump administration, the US role is put into question, especially as it takes a faux jingoistic characteristic which makes it a less reliable diplomatic and regional partner.

With a potentially diminishing US presence, countries like China and India are increasingly agitated and have heavily nationalistic governments who could use border skirmishes as a means to score some political points.

Also keep in mind growing Chinese influence with many of India's neighbors, including arch-rival Pakistan. This has furthered escalated Indian concerns about Chinese regional domination and has attributed to a growing Indian navy as well as a growing military presence along the border, including with tiny Bhutan.

I don't see Western Europe being a focal point for any massive conflict unless Russia went full retard and invaded with the full might of it's military. Instead, Russia will continue to use more insidious tactics that are much cheaper and effective, whether they be an elaborate network of internet trolls, support for likeminded political candidates, or general misinformation campaign.

A war between Saudi Arabia and GCC allies against Iran, LOL, good luck with that. Saudi Arabia can't even defeat a bunch of mountain herders in northern Yemen.

In conclusion, any major near global conflict will likely occur in Asia.

If Nukes come out then everyone wins. We need the cleanse user.

just because your life is garbage doesn't mean that everyone else deserves it

It's already happening.