Does anyone here have an actual degree?

Does anyone here have an actual degree?

in fucking your mum lol

I didn't go to history school, I went to history

As in a history degree? Probably very few.
But if you think people should waste their time with a history degree because they love history then you are an idiot. You do not need a degree to teach yourself something as simple as history. I guarantee I, and many others here, know more about history than some starbucks employee with a masters in history.

My degree is in Economics actually, which I guess is related enough for me to post here. (Veeky Forums doesn't like us)

I'm planning to get a History degree later on.

I'm a self-proclaimed doctor.
I studied at the self-proclaimed university of KHV, and have several honours and degrees, all of which are not valuable because mainstream academia is a closed society.

See my point?
You say "I have a degree".
>It depends where you studied
You say "I studied at X"
>It depends whether they're accepted by the rest of academia
You say "I'm part of mainstream academia"
>Because they have a monopoly on research, funded by specific organizations , unions and governments.

If I had relatively useful information, the only way it would be accepted is if someone from that secret club would review it. They wouldn't review it if I work at mcdonalds. You see how illogical that is?

Evidence and research is a closed field.
Holocaust denial, for example, is case closed, even with evidence for it.

>he thinks "knowing about history" is just memorizing facts and statistics from wikipedia

I thought so too but it turns out history degrees teach you a lot about how history is studied.

There are a lot of retards who think that history is just learning COOL FACTS, which it isn't.

>Holocaust denial, for example, is case closed, even with evidence for it.

OBSESSED

Looking to have an economics degree
History is just a hobby since it doesn't pay rents

Patrician

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I never stated that. Don't project, please.
I should look into it more. But personally I find it to be a waste to get a history degree when there are other degrees to work towards during your time in university.

I have a BA in History, but couldn't do shit related to it and work as a paralegal in an attorney's office instead.

history has been shelved to hobby-level reading these days.

cringe

Just write "no, I'm an academic failure" next time. Less text.

I am a bachelor of biological anthropology, I come here to get triggered by haploautists and "race realists." It makes me feel alive

this

Not an anthropologist myself, but I agree it is triggering to see all the people somehow magically know about the genetic pool of every individual and what it means.

>I guarantee I, and many others here, know more about history than some starbucks employee with a masters in history.
I gurentee your head is far up your ass. having to write a 10-15 page analytical essay backed up with at least 10 sources both primary and secondary makes you learn quite a bit of history. Keyboard warriors like yourself don’t have a clue.

>but couldn't do shit related to it
Sucks to suck. Work in an intelligence Agency or Archive.

Yes, but not in history.

Community college drop out here
Life is suffering

I guess I stand corrected. I still believe it would be a waste to get a History degree rather than self-teach yourself the information.

Mathematics.

Anyone with a history or a philosophy degree has wasted several years of his life for nothing anyway.

Yup, got my ba. Working on my MA

I'm studying for an MA in History at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of people on Veeky Forums don't have a degree

In history?

Complete waste of time unless you're planning on becoming a history teacher or professor.

Thank god I'm trying to be a professor. I do get offers as a researcher and other shit which I turn down because pay is shit.

A philosophy degree is a waste of ti-

Bsc in sociology. Too bad most is just history and meme's.

wew lad

>Holocaust denial, for example, is case closed, even with evidence for it.

No wonder you are a KHV

Finance here, I would have gotten one in history but the job prospects seemed limited.

So i opted to get a piratical degree and study history/philosophy in my spare time

History degree but somehow managed to get some corporate office job doing things I couldn't give two shits about but making enough money to escape NEET life.

History degree is for idiots.

Yeah I have my MA, work in a museum

>self-teach
You’re logic is flawed in that the amount you will “self-teach” yourself will never compare to the amount you will learn from being forced to learn in order to get a grade/degree. The knowledge gained from sitting in lectures by experts, and being forced to apply your knowledge, is invaluable when combined with your own research. theoretically speaking you can self-teach yourself anything. Somebody can self-teach themselves nuclear physics. That doesn’t mean the self-taught nuclear physician will ever compare to the academically taught nuclear physician. Same goes for history.

*your. phoneposting atm

History and International Relations joint Ba (hons).

Masters in Education

every first job pays shit, brainlet. I think you’re a kiddo living in their mums basement.

Graduating for a BSc in Urban planning and Geography in a few months, will do a masters afterwards in GIS-management to earn dosh.

PS: Social Science majors are bullshit

>(((urban planning)))
Hi shlomo.

Two things:

1. People with a degree will most certainly know more than 99,99% of people here. They'll know how to research, do studies, etc. etc.

2. You need to be realistic about job opportunities and manage expectations. You're not going to be rich or anything close to it, even if you manage to land a job related to history or archaeology.

>every first job pays shit
I don't think you know how to read.
>I think you're a ki
I think you're a dumbass with a stick up your ass.

The fuck are you rambling on?

I have a bachelors in history, and a PhD in math. I've just always been autistic about history, and participate in the occasional thread.

>BA in history
>PhD in Math
How the fuck does that work, how were you even allowed to enter the program anyway?

I have one in applied math.

Why not do a pure GIS masters? Will make you a lot more money

This. You can tell a lot of the angst directed towards Humanities majors is driven by ignorance and envy.

Got my J.D., licensed attorney. Don't know why you would waste that much money on a degree where only 1% of the grads break six figures a year.

I got undergrad degrees history and econ, but took a lot of math classes. Then I did 2 years in finance, decided I liked pure math, and went back to school for masters and doctorate.

Too mathematical, will need to reschool myself with advanced courses for an entry exam and has never been my strong suit. However I have good social skills and like to make use of GIS so it seemed a better option to me as I mostly want to balance out getting a good job that I can enjoy and supports a potential family life. A buddy of mine wants to pursue becoming a GIS-Engineer though, who knows, maybe we can set up a company when we are done.

>6 figures a year
1% tier.

I want to be an author and I’ve been using history knowledge as a sort of database to draw ideas from. I started in uni as a History major then entered my Creative Writing major. Now I’m thinking of switching back to History because they don’t teach you how to write in Writing, they just teach politics.

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I have a law degree, but I suppose that isn't much use unless you want to discuss a rather narrow band of U.S. legal history that I'm aware of.

I study archaeology, sophomore year.

You poor bastard

Doing my MA as well, I'm scared of how much I enjoy it. It's like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Fuck it, I'll either dig on sites or in canals.

Yeah, but not in history. History degrees are fucking worthless. You can do everything an "official" historian does without having a degree in history. The only benefits of having one is that it gives you more legitimacy and probably makes it easier to get access to old manuscripts, archaeological finds, etc. You know, things they don't just let anybody walk up and fingerfuck

>You can do everything an "official" historian does without having a degree in history.
you can any do anything without said degree, see . Doesn’t mean you are worth jack shit compared to academically trained histoy majors. Even if you think you are because you use google.

ANNHILILATED XDDD

BhD in ShidBosting
University of Son I Am Disappoint '08

I have an IR degree.

I wish I majored in history
What a fucking mistske to pursue STEM

>doing what you're interested in is stupid!

I've never understood this kind of person. Sure, you're most likely never going to be rich as fuck with a history degree but you'll almost certainly live comfortably. By all means, money is important in life, but don't let it earning as much as possible take precedent over your own long term happiness, do what you are interested in and have a long term goal. I've had so many friends who've gone into high paying professions they never had even an ounce of interest in and now can't get through the work day without SSRIs.

>People tell me humanities degrees like History is a meme degree and a total waste.
>Other people tell me that they regret going into stem and wish they got a degree in some they love/enjoy
It hurts to be alive

>academically trained history majors
Lol, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? What, you had to read a lot of books and you learned the ethical ways to conduct research? Hey buddy: anybody can do that. The reason degrees in liberal arts are fucking retarded isn't because the subjects are useless, it's because you can learn that shit without doling out $120,000 to do it. Especially if you have a mentor, someone who isn't studying for a degree in history can easily read lots of historical sources and learn how to compose his deductions from it in an ethical and scholarly way.

History isn't science. Everybody has their own fucking opinions on shit, and that's all it is at the end of the day: an opinion. Most "historians" throughout history (and I'm talking about recent history, like the 17th century and onwards) did not have any kind of "degree" in history. They were simply people who had the time and money to study lots of different sources and compose them in a clear way.

I know you want to justify your degree to yourself, but it really is only useful as a tool of legitimacy.

>history isn't science
It is
>liberal arts is useless
most of STEM classifies as liberal arts .
I hate my stem degree. Biggest waste of my life. I hate it so much I refused to even work in the field. I wish I chose history or a language major I was so fucking stupid

There was a thread in at R9k where OP said that he loves history but doesn't want to commit to a meme degree for college. One of the replies mentioned how he knows a gender studies major who makes a fuck ton of money. I hope he wasn't lying to make op feel better. I think it's safe to say whether you find a successful career and are happy with your life is dependent on circumstances. Some people are just more lucky than others.

Makes sense user. I can only tolerate math and science myself. Dedicating years of my life to something I don't like would be awful. I plan on being a college professor as my parents can afford a college easily. Figured I might as well teach in something I love with history.

What do you learn on it? Interested because i like reading stuff by Huntington and Fukuyama but don't know if the degree is just a meme

Those 17th century historians also lived at a time when anyone could go and look at original manuscripts and documents just by asking politely, rather than needed qualifications and references out the arse.

I was a history major for my first year in college, in fact studying history is the main reason I went to college. I was always disappointed in public school how little real history we were taught and I ended up reading a lot of it myself in the library. I was disappointed once I got to college though, because at low level you're only offered very broad survey courses that barely teach you anything really interesting, and the upper division courses were overwhelmingly focused on American history or on subjects like colonialism that I had no interest in.

So I switched majors to English lit since I also love reading fiction. Of course, the lineup for literature was also sparse of things I found interesting, but there were more classes that I found palatable compared to history. I could stomach having to read fiction I didn't care about more than having to study history I didn't care about.

Graduated a few years ago and I still study history in my spare time. I keep thinking I will go back and get a history degree but I just don't have the time.

I doubt you could produce any writing about your "research" that would pass even low level academic standards. People like you talk a big game but you invariably lack basic rhetorical skill.

It's more that college for most people is a waste of time. They went because they were pressured to go and didn't have any idea what they wanted so they followed somebody's advice and ended up regretting it. If you are putting yourself in debt to go to college you should think very carefully about doing it first, because if you're not certain what you're doing you're just going to be wasting your time. I was fortunate enough to get through college without debt, so I wandered aimlessly for several years before finally getting a liberal arts degree. I don't regret my college years because if I had to do it again I'd probably do more or less the same thing, being a little wiser and able to avoid the pitfalls I hit before.

>You can do everything an "official" historian does without having a degree in history
lol no you can't

shows how little you know about what a historian does

>Veeky Forums is full of "self taught" people and very few actual educated people
This explains the low quality of content on this board so, so much.

>It's more that college for most people is a waste of time
Just because most people don't enjoy it or only use it for employment signalling doesn't make it useless. In fact, undergraduate courses in general are mostly about teaching useful, transferable skills (leaving specialisation to postgraduates). Debt set-up in the USA is not ideal, but it's better to have a more educated population with debt, than a less educated one without debt.

In fact, the brute simplicity of how degrees create employment opportunities is undeniable evidence that they are useful.

>study electrical engineering
>get amazing job making amazing money with benefits
>read history books in my spare time because I find it interesting
>"wow user, you're so smart and knowledgeable on so many topics"
>autistic faggots on this board will shit talk me because I didn't spend 6 years of my life being forced to write essays by Marxist professors

>What, you had to read a lot of books
Yes. Real books, like pic related which i'm using right now for an assignment. Not memes
>and you learned the ethical ways to conduct research?
you learn HOW to research, and how to organize that research.
>Hey buddy: anybody can do that.
Anybody can do anything. Does that mean they will? No. Will you? no. You won't. You probably wouldn't last a week in an 300+ level course, let alone a graduate course.
> it's because you can learn that shit without doling out $120,000 to do it.
I can learn IT shit and business shit without it too.
>Especially if you have a mentor
Criteria get's more and more unlikely. And again, everything you are saying applies equally to any major.
>History isn't science
Thank God because science is shit.
>Everybody has their own fucking opinions on shit, and that's all it is at the end of the day: an opinion.
You learn how to back up your theses as a history major. Not just some fool spouting opinions.
>Most "historians" throughout history (and I'm talking about recent history, like the 17th century and onwards) did not have any kind of "degree" in history. They were simply people who had the time and money to study lots of different sources and compose them in a clear way.
most historians went to some institution of learning.
>I know you want to justify your degree to yourself, but it really is only useful as a tool of legitimacy.
Legitimacy is important.

I don't think you realize not everyone wants the same thing
If I was in your position I'd probably kill myself

>I'm an electrical engineer and armchair historian

It's not worth putting yourself into massive debt for something you regret. A college degree is nice, yes, but you don't need one to be successful. I was the only person in my circle of friends to actually earn a college degree. One friend dropped out after 2 years, another never went, they both got high paying tech sector jobs while I spent years footling about after college looking for some application of my degree before finally settling on an entry level tech sector job myself. It's not the career I imagined and is far off from what I studied in school, but it pays well enough.

Our career paths are quite similar. I've always wanted to teach; therefore, I'd prefer to teach a subject I'm sincerely passionate about.

Because this board is full of /int/ nationalists, kids who watched the history channel and /pol/ memers

You can pick up STEM skills with self study and be fine. But I've yet to meet a self-taught scholar who was even a quarter as erudite as one who went to school to learn the tools of that trade. The fact is people who self teach themselves to be scholars never push themselves as hard as professors push their students in college. In academia liberal arts you are held to a rigorous high standard. STEMfags seem to think all liberal arts disciplines are like creative writing where you just make shit up and get graded on effort, but history in particular is many, many hours of detailed research and structuring complex arguments based on that research. And your professor isn't just some guy, it's often his favorite subject matter. You can't bullshit him.

If you aren't passionate about teaching it, a History degree isn't advisable. I'm not sure why people have difficulty understanding this

>In academia liberal arts you are held to a rigorous high standard.
With the exception of a handful of shitty schools and community colleges, this is true.

Community college is basically high school 2.0 and it's useful for gaining skills. I attended one for two years to get my under graduate credits then transferred to a real 4 year university for my upper division courses. The culture change was intense. It was like I had been going to daycare before.

I didn't study history though, and I don't regret my college experience at all. Fact remains though it didn't help me get a job. I don't particularly care because I never went to college to help me get a job, I went to follow my intellectual passions. I realize that this is a luxury only afforded to people of my social status though.

i actually fell for the "do what you like meme" and got a degree in history with a minor in political science... basically a degree in trivia and how to do research but i did in fact learn a lot

IT support?

I'm glad you eventually transferred. I've had friends who've had aspirations of teaching Veeky Forums at the university level who never obtained their graduate degrees due to poor qualifications.

Programmer, actually. I self-taught myself how to code, and with a recommendation from a friend who worked for the same company was able to get an interview for a junior position. Basically I was like a paid intern, albeit one making over $17/h, and I had a year to get my skills up to scratch or they would let me go. I made the cut and now I make just under 80k/y. Not bad for an English degree huh?

I had to transfer, the community college only offered up to associate level degrees. Fortunately it did a lot of curriculum sharing with some state universities and I was able to transfer all my 200 and under credits without issue.

I'm unironically doing a BA in Japanese studies so at least everyone in this thread can give themselves some consolation in the fact that they're at least better off than I am. This has seriously been the worst mistake of my life, and that says quite a lot.

Have you found a decent job? Or are you basically a wagecuck? Or are you unemployed?