You are in charge of making Versailles treaty...

You are in charge of making Versailles treaty, you must make it as fair as possible to prevent any future major war in Europe for at least 50 years.

Kill every German, destroy all books where their nation and country are mentioned, split German land between surrounding countries and pretend that nothing happened

Split Germany back into the states that it had been in the past, and especially split the biggest ones up. Don't completely butcher Austria. No fucking Republics.

Either don't be extra harsh with Germany or cut it down totally
Give Italy what they want in the Balkans so no fascist (or if they go anyway they don't hate the allies)

All of continental Europe becomes blood refineries

Give everything to the Pope and force them to do a recatholization of Germany.

based papists

While where at it can we undo pr*testantism in general?

Capitulate to Germany

some kind of edited version of hooton plan

>find different location for a treaty
>make league of nations acctualy do something
>don't even think of giving Germany the "Eastern Germany"
>give geman veterans manuals for "peace time"

Give them the 'Poland' treatment:
>partition their lands to their neighbours
>ban the teaching of the german language
>erase all mentions of recorded german history

Not being such a meany with the losers. Letting France out of the treaty should solve everything.

>leaving out the country that suffered the worst casualties and made the most sacrifices in the entire war

Idiot.

I mean France was basically a fake country at this point. Nobody even spoke French until the late 1880s.

>Not being so harsh with the germans but put the country into the control of UK and France until the creation of a stable Republic
>Give Italy what they wanted so they wouldn't be so angry with the allies

Of course, I don’t mean 0 compensations for France. Alsace-Lorraine was a must.
But Versailles treaty wouldn't have been half as bad if only the Brits/USA were involved. France hate towards Germany was insane, which resulted in such unfair treaty. And we both know that WW2 was a direct consequence of this Franco-Prussian war revanchism.

>Minimal Reduction of German landmass apart from colonies
>Reparations not as harsh and destructive
>Entente occupation of Central powers until stable republics have been created.
>Also don't fuck up AH so bad, Realize it as a failed state and give them an alternative with the breakup of the empire.

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Versailles wasn't harsh enough

Make an actual commitment to save Russia from Bolshevism

Where does this meme come from that Germany lost some devastating amount of land? In europe they really lost only Alsace-Lorraine and Prussian part of polish kingdom, both of which they acquired through military conquest in lthe century before that

Every country is forced to adopt English as a primary language.... of the American dialect (they may however choose Yankee or Southern); mandatory English education is legislated for every man, woman, and child in Europe. The "United States of Europe" is founded with a constitution identical to the American one. All European nations are reduced to the status of "states"; national currencies are replaced by the Evuropa-dollar and no additional reparations are added. All war debts are made into one big pot owed by the Federal government. National armies/navies are abolished; only the federal armed forces exist.

Good luck after that.

I want Richard Spencer to leave

That would either completely fail or make Europe a real contender for the first superpower, why would an american want that?

>implying the European Empires at this point weren't already superpowers

Not really the case post-WWII, even if it's more the USA becoming ultra-powerful than european powers becoming weaker besides losing their colonies.

On principle.

>amerimutt lives in a country where the various European ethnicity/cultures were reduced to the vague and lowest common denominator of "white"
>wants to enact the same disaster on Europe

>You are in charge of making Versailles treaty, you must make it as fair as possible to prevent any future major war in Europe for at least 50 years.


World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total deaths ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million. The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine

Completely disarm the Germans, banish every ethnic German diaspora back to Germany, then stand Allied soldiers shoulder to shoulder along the German border and have them walk forward, keeping the line unbroken, slaughtering every German subhuman they find. Then divide the land among the Allies.

Stain removed, problem solved.

>banish every ethnic German diaspora back to Germany
>slaughtering every German subhuman they find
why not just kill the diaspora outside of Germany?

>implying this isn't the actual American goal
how do we stop the Eternal Yankee?

1) Ensure that a committee is made to investigate the causes of the war and ensure this committee is unbiased.Final Judgement will be made according to the representatives of European Nations.

2)Ensure that Willie is replaced by some Hozenhollern Lad and that Germany becomes a parliamentary monarchy.Also they lose their colonies except for Qingdao

Add to this punish Prussia but give plenty of leniency to Bavaria and the like. Divide and conquer. It won't solve the fact of the Nazis having plenty of non Prussian support or romantics who want a unified Germany but it'll satisfy the French and not punish dindu nuffin Germans for the errors of their militant leadership.

Otherwise the krauts cant cry a goddamn thing when Brest-Livosk was a fucking bonafied rape of Russia compared to the slap on the wrist of Versailles. Ultimately Versailles is so bad because it neutered the German pride more than any manner of land or economic punishment. And short of letting them off with not even giving up Alsace-Lorraine their smoldering pride remains.

>Send Bolshevik revolutionaries to Russia to foment revolution and end the war in the east
>Become extremely concerned about Bolshevism conquering Europe

>brainlets saying dismantle Germany into states


Every single person living in what was Germany would have a collective memory of a united Germany, it wouldn't be too long before someone unites them again and they'd have a chip on their shoulder and be super nationalistic.

>give Bosnia and Croatia to Yugoslavia
>don't break up AH, let them keep the rest of their land and give them Bavaria as a puppet state
>take Alsac-Lorainne from Germany
>but give them Poland and the Baltic states
>force Germany to ban any party that is against the new treaty
>let former CP countries join the league of nations immediately
>enforce an economic embargo against the USSR

>lose war
>gain some land

make whites win give poland to russia
disarm germany and invade them the second they try to rearm

Yes, that was the norm for a while in Europe before WWI, it led to more stable treaties too.

they did win in the east tho

>You are in charge of making Versailles treaty, you must make it as fair as possible

Vae victus

The problem isn't Versailles went too far, it's that they didnt go far enough.

It was tough enough to be a virtual casus belli in and of itself, but not tough enough to truly neutralize the German threat.

Maybe the terms were tough enough, but enforcement mechanisms weren't. Or the Allies themselves were too lax in enforcing the terms, esp. against military buildup.

1-Strong Bavarian Monarchy
2-Half of Nieder-Saxen under Netherland's control for 5 years.
3-Saar and Ruhr under French control for 5 years.
4-Pomerania under British control for 5 years.
5-Hapsburg Hungary.
6-Deutche OstReich is allowed to exist.
7-Chekosolovakia exist without sudeten mouintains.
8-Holstein is ceded to Deenmark.
9-Less debt,debt to Austria as well.
10-Baden-Wurtenberg Kingdom
11-No 1919 constitution in Germany,a new general election has to happens and a constitution finished arround 1922.
12-Four years long Presidential mandate in Germany.
13-Italy gest coastal Dalmatia.
14-Syria and Iraq have to become independent arround 1930.
15-Armenia has to be put in British military occupation until 1935.
16-Transylvania as Hungarian clay
17-Some kind of Dawes plan-like project.
18-French,USA and British would have three bases in the baltic untill 1934.
19-Free Eslovenia.
20-Finland Kingdom

I wish France was balkanised after the Napoleonic Wars. Then we would truly have peace in Europe.

You forgot
>21. Give Poland to Lithuania

Non-meme answer: occupy all of Germany for 10 years. That way the Entente can extract the reparations directly and enforce the disarming of Germany without any sort ambiguity. There would be no "stab in the back" myth as the Germans will now realize that their country has truly been defeated once they see foreign troops marching through all their cities.
Prussia is to abolished and divided into the several free states within Germany.
No dismemberment of Germany proper or any further territorial loss would be needed.

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Recruit battalions from the defeated nations of willing soldiers to fight Russia
Balkanise Germany
Give Prussia back to Poland as well as a hapsburg king
>doing what France and Belgium did
Then there’s the chance they kill each other for food

>not Danube confederation
Best republic

>Treaty of Versailles
>Danube confederation

>all of Germany

Imagine the United Europeans inevitable civil war, the casualties would be catastrophic.
Who would the two sides be? Slavs vs Western Europeans, Common vs Statute laws, Germanic vs Latin culture, Eurosceptics vs Eurocentrics? It would make the US civil war and WWII look like the fucking Anglo-Zanzibar war in comparison.
Would a truly united Europe try to reincorporate the bongs and east Thrace?
My bet would be Anglo taking the role of the confederacy and being inevitably ground down by Franco-German hegemony as the Union.

There were french and belgian troops occupying the Rhur and Rheinland and extracting moneys from the volk (or attempting to, because they couldn't extract that much in face of strong civilian strikes and opposition that only served to make them furious).

That has nothing to do with the backstab myth, everybody knew Germany could do nothing from a military point of view to prevent the French and Belgian military going trekking into Germany whenever they wanted. If they didn't go beyond the Rhur was just because the industry was there.

Things got better after Locarno, but it was the economic crisis, the moral lecturing about le ebil German Empire, the territorial expoliation and the perceived attempts to make of Germany a cuck vassal bitch of "the west" (read anglojuices and their bitches) what triggered people and Alfred Chimper.

You’ve eaten basically all of Hungary and Austria so why not
Yes and there was mass resistance even when a small part was occuoied

Yep. Yugoslavia, independent Slovenia, Italy getting Italian lands, and maybe some Polish or Rumanian lands going to their people, too, should be all that's done to AH. Maybe also Czechoslovakia. But Austria and Hungary should not be neutered, and should stay kingdoms, preferably in personal union, or Hungary's throne should be given to a cousin of the now King of Austria. Definitely don't make any of the new countries republics. Divide and conquer is what we want, and old nobility is great with that.

Also, independent Caucasian countries, Armenia with coast, Greece gets most of Turkish Europe, while the rest and a bit of Turkish Anatolia, all around Constantinople, become an independent country similar to Andorra, with the King of Greece and a leader from the Orthodox church in charge.

>Referendums in Alsace-Lorraine, Schleswig, Eastern Prussia and Posen on what country they want to join: draw the borders based on the results
>Extraterritorial highway connecting Eastern Prussia to mainland Germany
>Maintain the monarchy
>Maintain the unity of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but make the United States of Greater Austria plan a reality
>NO FUCKING REPUBLICS

The Versailles Treaty should have attempted to create a situation as close as possible to the one that existed before the war.

Borders considered spooks and not necessary. Nations are also deprecated.

>Keeping Hassburger Austria-Hungary, the retarded, agonizing firestarter, intact

Disgusting. Good thing that Wilson rekt them. Probably the only good thing that came out of the war.

White peace.

>gas the bong aristocracy
>invite the Sovs to the peace conference
>gas them too
>give Japan deserved considerations
>give Italybros deserved considerations
>make nice with the frogs, but they get the gas too if they step out of line
>tell the US to go home and stay home

Move the French border to the rhein. This gives France ample land compensation while also creating a very dependable border

Based prots

Don't punish germany at all.
Move french border back to paris.

>not seeing the natural borders

>scraps treaty
>marches armies onward to Germany
>murder every man woman and child

That was easy.

the fuck are they gonna do? I'd rather alienate france than alienate germany, considering in the war we just fought france got severely beaten and managed to win by pure attritition, something that was clearly not going to last looking at the technological innovations

Avoid Yugoslavia by giving Croatia Bosnia and give Vojvodina and Srijem to Serbia. And let Slovenia have a refferendum wheter they want to join Croatobosnia or Austria.
There I just saved millions of lives

Destroying Austria Hungary allowed Hitler to take Austria and czechoslovakia, and then push all of the former empire into his sphere of influence, AH should've been preserved as a set of military Alliances in otherwise completely independent states, with some small chunks of surrounding land to entice hungary, if hungary gets uppity, kick them back down, and as far as i can tell the political forces in interwar austria didn't give a shit about restoring the empire, this prevents Hitler from grabbing fuel in the form of Austria and Czechoslovakia's gold reserves.

Balkanized Germany into pre-unification borders or go with Roosevelt plan divisions.
Make every new german state pay half of reparations.
Divide Prussia into Brandenburg, pomerania, silesia and east prussia.
Give Silesia to Poland and make east prussian state it's vassal.
Expelled germans from alsace-lorraine and sudetenland.

Immediately after that, force all european powers to stop bolsheviks getting into power no matter what.

>Lets create and keep alive on life assistance an artificial, repulsive, clusterfuck state in order to serve the geopolitical interests of some foreign power that ofc doesn't give one flying fuck about the multitude of peoples and nationalities in it, their hopes, wellbeing, interests and aspirations.

Truly Eternal Anglo.

Worked with India.. More a less.

Expel all Germans to German China. Divide the rest of Germany between italy, France and Denmark.

Divide Belgium between France, Netherlands and Luxembourg. Belgium is the source of all the world's problems.

>France hate towards Germany was insane
And completely justified. Maybe Germany shouldn't have started the most destructive war in human history up to that point and expected to get off scot free.

Dismember germany into small states.

Europe saved forever

This

This post is autism.

Belgium needs to be three states, Flanders, Wallonia, and Luxembourg, which should get the German far east of the other two and go up to the lower portion of the Dutch province of Limburg, and all three states should be grand duchies in personal union with the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

>have John Maynard Keynes decide how to structure reparations (even if he fucks it up, he literally can't do worse than OTL)
>implement a public works program where German and Austrian veteran workers can be 'leased' out to France, Belgium Poland, Italy, etc. to help with reconstructing infrastructure damaged by the war in return for decreased reparations
>make Willy abdicate in favor of his son, but Karl can stay in Austria
>make the German and Austrian governments pass constituions that significantly limit the Kaiser's authority
>possibly make Bavaria independent
>give Italy the half dozen or so Croatian villages that Mussolini would've thrown a shit fit over
>Danzig stays Deutsch, but they have to provide assistance in building a Polish sea port in Gdynia
>have minimal restrictions on the German military as long as they help Britain & France fight the Bolsheviks