How many of you completely abstain from alcohol and drugs?

Working out, writing, etc. Doesn't have to be a "drug"

I drink a lot since I am in the service industry.

I am going to the military in September. I realize there is a lot of drinking in this environment as well but I'd like to make a career out of it so I'm looking to hang with those who don't drink or if they drink, they drink wine or something bougie.

I've got a LOT of knowledge of fine wine and bourbon because of my service knowledge and it feels shitty to just... waste.

I abstain from alcohol but I smoke marijuana daily, and dabble with LSD, psilocybin and other psychoactive compounds on occasion.

Gotta be open minded bros.

I just got offered to do DMT for the first time this week. I abstain from alcohol and tobacco.

I've taken your banepost as a sign from the universe that i should partake.

what should I expect?

filthy degenerate

Oh it's great user, are you in college? There still might be time left.

>ive never used cough syrup make me feel better when i had a cold
>ive never been to the hospital and been treated with drugs to combat infections/bacteria that could cause serious adverse health consequences
>ive never used neosporin to help small wounds heal when i was younger
>ive never taken aspirin or drank coffee to help with headaches

it is true. Face it. Everybody on this Earth HAVE to use drugs to survive.

The last few times I went out I actually managed to only drink in moderation.
I'm also pretty sure beer is one of the reasons I'm not really that lean.
But honestly, that's the price I pay for not being an autistic shut-in.
I know it's bad, but I don't really see any alternatives.
I don't know how to sort this out.

Short but wild ride. I honestly don't recommend it as a beginners psychedelic, but free is free and if you're doing it in an environment where you feel comfortable then go for it.

For the first 17 years of my life I was the most straight edge kid you'd ever meet.

Then through my late teens and up until I was 30 I became addicted to cigs and started drinking alcohol which progressed to the point of drinking 8 shots of whiskey every night and smoking half a pack of day. In my late 20 I also had a heavy bar phase where I used some re recreational drugs too.

I've been back to being straight edge for the past 4-5 years. Can't say I'll never get wasted again but life is much better straight edge.

I know you're baiting, but just for anyone reading this that actually believe this, you don't HAVE to take these to survive, it's a choice.

oh I'm not a beginner. I've done shrooms and acid several times.

M A C H I N E
E L V E S

I was using chemical substances but yes, training, hobbies, sex, etc. can all be abused. Look at all the guys trying nofap or noporn just so they can get something accomplished besides orgasming.

the ocasional drinking with the lads is one of the most positive things i do for my mental health. i dont binge tho (maybe once a year), just drink until im feeling that nice buzz that makes you more open and happy to talk, and then slowly sip beer until it time to go home.

i wish i could quit weed soon, but im so bad at falling asleep...

I have three drinks(two beers and a whiskey) or less every other week. I quit smoking in December.

Stopped taking edibles in January(I live in CO). That was fucking rough. I took so much(5 100mg edibles every other day) every week, and moved to just consuming hash oil straight up(gram and a half a week). I was a fucking zombie. It took me 4 months to piss clean(have a bunch of those cheap card size piss tests).

The worst part was having emotions again after nothing for 8 months. Movies would make me cry. Songs would make me tear up. It was like being on the rag for months(I assume).

Don't do concentrates or edibles, kids. Just smoke or vape now and then. Don't be like me.

And now for Cincinnati's own, Amish Anal Acrobats!

>implying you can live without antibiotics

Your immune system can't fight everything on its own you dunce.

I abstain from all drugs and alcohol with exception of an occasional toke of weed before I watch a movie in bed...

I've done all drugs and alcohol and it's better this way.

i cant stand alcohol because I was getting drunk at 7yo and had bad experiences

>How many of you completely abstain from alcohol and drugs?
Fuck no, I love that shit. Still feel like garbage from a techno festival past Saturday but every 2/3 months won't kill you or destroy your gains.

>adulterating your brain chemistry - that which is responsible for your entire consciousness and perception of the world

imo this existence is bizarre and confusing enough without throwing psychedelics into the mix. Not to mention things like HPPD, which, to me, suggest that there's at least SOME subtle lingering effect on the way your brain works from substances like LSD (and that to me is slightly scary).

I mean, I guess you could say every experience we have and every substance we ingest changes our consciousness/perception in some small way anyway, but I'm weary of drugs because they seem to act so profoundly and directly.

Years ago I realized I drink only to fit in. Now I use my alleged abstinence to explain to newly met people why I don't go to parties. I drink occasionally, but it's mostly family gathering or wine when dining at restaurant.

At high level in life you dont resonate even with caffeine, sugar or junkfood habits, because you see them as they are. Just addictions that cant never even compare to the taste of winning.

Start by getting into The power of now and Letting Go the pathway To surrender

Don't do "illegal" drugs any more. It was just weed, and I got sick of giving money to criminals to something that should be legalized, and will be soon enough anyway. Governments are paying more and more attention to Colorado's booming economy and surprise surprise, lower underage smoking rates.

Legal highs always looked stupid as fuck to me and you might as well be huffing jenkem at that point.

Yes I drink. Alcohol is so fucking good, so fucking varied and there's a drink for all occasions. Partial to the g&t but it's hard to get them served in a glass not for women these days since its popularity exploded out of nowhere.

Fuck I always miss that point. Usually because it goes beer after beer after beer, round after round, and the other guys don't give a shit, they just want to get wasted. (And they're all 15-20 kg heavier than me). I usually hit a point where I say "no way, no more", and they keep going. But by that point it's too late. It would be the ideal time to go home, but I'm so drunk that I don't think much at all and just stand around until either everyone goes or I'm sobered up and realize that I'm just wasting away for no reason.

Sometimes I manage to drink at a slower pace and stop/pause at a good point, but most of the time I don't.

Used to smoke weed frequently but I realised it makes you a faggot with no drive
Only alcohol and ciggies for now, still curious about cocaine though

>Used to smoke weed frequently but I realised it makes you a faggot with no drive
This is not true, it's your own choice to be an unproductive faggot while high

Good post, people need a vice

By not putting them in your body

So you're addicted to "winning". Great. Don't tell me what to do. I'm gonna drink and roid and take advantage of modern medicine like a normal person.

I've only drank twice in the past two years (both on New Years). Haven't done any drugs since about 2013. To be fair, I'd smoke weed but I haven't had luck finding any in my little town and I don't know anyone here to get any.

>never drink at home, only drink when going out in the evening
>I never go out because no friends
It's a problem that solves itself really

>trusting a man who doesn't trust himself with one drink

Is putting Nutella in one's butt, uncontrollably.. a.. d-drug?

alcohol yes...drugs no....its festival season and I fucks with MDMA, Ex, and acid. Weed on occasion, but from concentrate only, don't burn the leaf.

Not me.
After trying lots of psychedelics, stimulants, dissociatives and depressants, there are my few favorites that I always go back for a good time... of course, once a blue moon:
1. Benzodiazepines - if you thought you know what it means to be relaxed and feeling great, then you don't know shit. Clonazepam, alprazolam, diazepam (in high amounts, I did 100mg) and certain designer benzos such as clonazolam (LSD-tier microgram potency, fucking incredible).
2. Opioids - those need not to be introduced. Morphine is the queen, I haven't tried your American inventions such as hydrocodone. Pure feeling of immortality, if you're sick, you'll no longer be after taking some. Pain? No such thing. Very easy to get addicted to, if you only tried alcohol, cigs and cannabis in your life then stay away.
3. Psychedelics - probably my favorite category. Experiences that are impossible to describe and no movie has ever shown what really happens on substances such as LSD, 2C-x family, AL-LAD, ALD-52, etc. I have never before knew what it means to taste, physically touch and see sound.
4. Dissociatives - your body disappears and your self. What becomes of you? Well, your journey in the interstellar space is only limited by your imagination. Ketamine, MXE, DXM, 3-MeO-PCP, and so on.
5. Stimulants - my least favorite group, but methcathinone, EPH and certain designer compounds give an ecstatic euphoria, impossible to compare with anything else, except maybe winning a billion dollars. The best ones have you feel orgasms constantly all over your body, for hours.

Good times.

>about to do one of the strongest psychedelics in the world
>what should I expect?
You are such a fucking retard. Why don't you do a little research before doing dmt you dumb cumguzling nigger. You are in for a wild ride.

Nah man, I ain't a pussy. I smoke WEED

DUDE

i have some drinks once a week when meeting friends.
other than that, my biggest vice are cigs... really gotta quit those.

>re recreational drugs
that sounds good, where can i get those?

beer

Wish I could save it for just the occasions when I'm with my boys but I'm 25 and I'm not settled down with neither a good job nor good woman so I probably get fairly hammered once a week, sometimes less, sometimes more. Never to blackout but pretty sloppy. I'm not afraid of being reliant, just aging myself and doing long term damage. My good friend fucked up his liver at 24 from it. He's better now, but scary

dont really drink or smoke but psychedelics are the shit and I immensely enjoy their occasional use

>to feel better
Nah senpai i smoke weed so i can eat enough food

Wines man once said that 'e road of excess takes you to the palace of wisdom' (if you don't die on the way there lol).
I used to drink much more but the hangovers and the money spent were not worth it. Save your money guys, better off building your assets and investing in yourself with training and learning.
Weed is fun though. But why are they making it so strong ? I don't enjoy that anymore.
Mushrooms are useful, a holiday from your ego. But as they say, 'when God answers the phone, you should hang up'.

I drink 2-4 pints a week. More if I'm on holiday. I'll 'go out' once every 12 weeks or something with the teammates but won't even get that fucked up.

>never done drugs and never will
>drink beer only when hanging out with friends
>on rare ocassions something with more %

I do but that is only because my family has a really bad history with alcohol and drugs.

I really wish to try drinking but I know I really shouldn't. I feel like an idiot when I have to turn down drinking with a girl because of this skeleton in my family's closet.

Any other anons with similar experience? Any tips on doing this?

So how did humanity even make it until they discovered penicillin in 1930?

Only natty trenbolone for me

>not drinking 9 pints a night

I don't drink, my father is an alcoholic and it's always been really terrible to deal with. I'm not really interested in other drugs either. I took a picture in the garage as a reminder to not wind up like this.

Looks like your dad knows how to party!

I'm /nodrugs/ /noalcohol/ /nocaffeine/ /fullynatty/

ex heroin user

on methadone now

coming off soon for those massive testosterone rebound gains

What do you do though when you need to lose yourself and get out of it all for a while?

I go a couple weeks pretty content but I just get frustrated at being conscious. It's like this build up. It grows and grows until I can't stand being so sober and then I have to go out and get shitfaced to reset.

It fucks me up every time but if I don't I get very very agitated and depressed.

>never done drugs

>drink alcohol , a pretty powerful drug

eckz dee

>friendless loser NEET shut-in
>not a degenerate

>wine

fucking gay

I'm already poor so I'd like to be sober when managing money

I could really fucking crush a half dozen tall boy buds right about now... Icey cold with a pack of smokes out in the garden watching the stars and listening to some good talk radio.

A friend to share it with would be even better... :(

It's the best thing in the world. The absolute fucking best, why the fuck would you want to give it up, right?
I'm an addict too, not to alcohol, something a bit worse. I'm still a work in progress with my psychologists.

wew lad, good luck with those methadone withdrawls homie.

scared to do drugs because of history of schizophrenia in family. Don't drink because it fucked up too many lives around me and I'm too pussy to let my will power decide how much, I fear the rabbit's hole

No alcohol*, cigarettes nor drugs here (gf is the same); I simply wasn't used to any of it growing up since my parents don't drink/smoke/take drugs either.

*well, unless you count dabbing my lips during Eucharist.

Was alchoholic, started opoids, quit drinking, then addicted to opoids. Quit last week, week of withdrawls, feeling better each day

cigars, (tobacco) pipes, and dip are my staples but I'd do weed if I had stable connections to it. Craft beer when I can afford it.

no need to go into fucking semantics, you know what I mean

I did the same thing, It takes a while to get over the withdrawls bro. stick with it.

It's the only way I've found to get true relief. That 3rd pint when my mind stops whirring, my self-doubt leaves and me, the real me, comes out of hiding and I get to actually exist for a couple of hours before the drink takes hold and I get sloppy.

I end up spending a shit load of money. I end up physically wrecked for a few days if the hangover catches bad. Then I feel pretty average until it all builds up again.

I wish I could just chill with buddies a few times a week and get a buzz going but with me it's 'once you pop, you can't stop'.

Good looking out, we all gonna make it

Fucking kill me desu lads, I'm a shit drunk and it makes me think about my ex causing a mental breakdown when I get drunk. The thing is when I'm sober I hardly ever think of her, I don't know why it happens.

Not complaining though desu, aparently it's funny and it gets me invited to whatever shitty party is going on where I show up with friends, and hoover up any spirits before fucking off with whatever shit girl that tolerates me.

Don't drink lads, it's not worth it. We all forget most of the fun stuff that happens anyway because we get slaughtered, besides whenever an ugly girl is into someone, that becomes a way to relentlessly take the piss for a while.

Mushrooms are fun though, only tried them a few times but I'd do it again for sure.
Sorry for blogposting, just trying to console any anons who think they're missing out.

Just drink shots of hard liquor like most of us who drink to feel the alcohol do. Beer is a much higher caloric density and estrogen effect anyhow.

>just trying to console any anons who think they're missing out

I'm not missing out on getting drunk, just missing out with getting drunk with others.

For me it's a sex addiction, with some sadism in there and a lack of empathy.
Continuing to listen to my fantasies would eventually land me in a world of shit, rape and stuff.
It's not that bad though.

I miss that moderation. I know it's bad for me and I am trying to protect myself.
It does really suck, thinking I can't go back to the thing that makes me truly happy.

it lasts 5-10 minutes at most, for that reason it's preferable to take as a first timer than acid which will last 10-12 hours. It will take you to another planet and meet strange entities so be prepared

good luck user, we're rooting for ya

>third pint
LIGHTWEIGHT BABY

Drink once or twice a week usually, but end up drinking half a bottle of vodka when I do because of slavic heritage. Really hard to fit those calories into a cut though.

Also been getting really tempted to try psychedelics. Have a friend who is experienced and trustworthy that would be more than happy to share too. Don't have history of mental illness in my family so should be safe enough, whats the harm in trying it?

That's what an addiction is dumbass. Stop fucking drinking, it's a waste of time. I see a lot of you saying " oh but it's a release ", drinking doesn't solve any problems you retards, it just adds more problems too your life. I'm not even talking about the health problems (which will happen to you) but I'm talking about the problems that WILL come out of simply being drunk. Just fucking stop drinking, after a few months you will be over it and living life sober and not eternally hungover.

t. Pint+ of vodka per night for 2 years straight

I have a medical condition so I have to take fuckloads of drugs

Alcohol...I can go years without drinking anything then suddenly start getting trashed twice a week for three months

Weed and caffeine do nothing to me

liquor tastes like fucking crap tho

beer is ambrosia

>implying they did

I'm 6 months sober on saturday
3 months weed sober
Quit smoking cigs over a week ago

Guess I'm /straightedge/ now

Just don't ingest them lmao like why is this so hard

I do, I don't like the idea of altering my mind.

and considering how short our lives are, I want to live through every moment, good and bad

I drink a glass of wine maybe every quarter. Coffee every morning. That's about it lads

"Lol I drink maybe once a month now. And I never do drugs. Just test, tren and modafinil...oh wait.

18 now, smoking weed almost every day since I was 16. Idk, I hope I haven't done any damage to my brain but I dont feel that different from periods where I won't smoke. I'm pretty intelligent anyway so a few IQ points gone won't hurt me too much.