The American Revolution

Now that the dust has settled, were the Brits really in the wrong?

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Yes.

eh. they had chances to rectify their mistakes before outright rebellion. should have repealed the stamp act as soon as the colonists started acting up.

They should've given us some representatives. But we were, technically, the traitors.

Yes.
>They should've given us some representatives
We had representatives in our several provincial legislatures
>But we were, technically, the traitors
Why is it treason to be loyal to your country?

The Brits violated the colonists basic rights as British citizens, simply because they did not live in the British mainland.

>No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
It was inevitable.

>Why is it treason to be loyal to your country?
The country of the Founding Fathers was the UK. Their leader was George III. They had legitimate grievances that needed to be addressed, and they did just that by declaring independence, but they were still traitors.

No. They were wholly justified.
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>The country of the Founding Fathers was the UK
No, it was America. You are confusing a confederation with a country.
>but they were still traitors.
The only traitors were the tories because they betrayed their country to a foreign adversary.

Yes but not because of any representation or lack thereof
The Americans had always governed themselves and wanted to be sovereign

What do you think representation means?

Representation in the British parliament
Which would’ve made absolutely zero difference to the Americans’ chance at changing laws because they were so few

>They were so few

Spotted the guy who types before he thinks

No. The colonial rebels were flatly treasonous and criminal in action.

Hey, remember that time that even the UK were sick of the English King and beheaded that nigga?

yes. King George the TURD was a delusional asshole who let his autism turn what started out as a simple protest into riots, and turned that into insurrection, and turned that into a world war basically. Also, he was literally crazy

By the standards of the day no. But it is very hard to go benign neglect to active administration especially in a society that spawned from the paranoid about tyranny 17th century England. The simple truth is that the perceieved interests of the power brokers on both sides of the Atlantic diverged and once this happens force will be needed.

worked out better for us. I come across much happier people here in the US than in authoritarian UK

>We had representatives in our several provincial legislatures
he means representatives in parliament
>Why is it treason to be loyal to your country?
there was no "country" there was only the british commonwealth whose head was the king and whose supreme power and embodiment of the nation was vested in parliament.

>No, it was America.
they were british subjects first and foremost before the revolution
>foreign adversary.
britain wasn't foreign, it was their mother country and the country which they looked to for political, social and cultural ideas

Parliament had no authority over the colonies
Their loyalties were to be to America first and the Empire second. They were not English.

You are a retard with an agenda. Also, there was no British Empire until Victoria.

They spurned every single change to avoid it so I'd say yes.

Literally could've all been avoided had the king just read the list of grievances.

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As an American I will tell you no. They could have handled it better though.

>Parliament had no authority over the colonies
>what is parliamentary supremacy

>Their loyalties were to be to America first and the Empire second. They were not English.
[citation needed]

Treason against Catholics doesn't count.

This next level baiting

what about people who lived in the colonies who weren't citizens?