Never done any lifting before, not even stepped in a gym. Should I change anything?
Nathaniel Green
I googled a random bf% calc because the tradition one in OP has been broken for ages. Hopefully this is fixed for future fat gens
Nolan Gray
I think you calc your bf% wrong. 150@5'11 is definitely less than 25%. But if your question is "should I work out" the answer is yes
Chase Lopez
No my answer is should I cut down to around 130lbs while doing the program I linked then start clean bulking
Zachary Jenkins
meant to say my question*
Tyler Long
Any program works for a beginner, having said that I'd be willing to bet any routine that has 2 different curls in it is bad. Read the sticky, get something from there
I don't know how you managed to have that little lean body mass, but you would probably be better off eating at or just under TDEE (say 1500-1900) with a shit load of protein for now.
Evan Jenkins
Hello fellow fats Going for Lyle McDonalds Rapid Fat Loss which is both painful and effective which I have used successfully in the past.
Wish me luck.
Nolan Price
>I don't know how you managed to have that little lean body mass
I starved myself for like 5 months (500kcal/day)
I started at 240lbs and was really sick and tired of being obese, didn't realize I was being autistic
Nolan Clark
Lost 13kg on 22 day water fast boys. Lost 2 more since on IF
Nathan Wright
>30-40 years left before cheat life is over Getting pretty excited, guys. Can't wait to start cutting when this life is over. Any tips to look forward to?
Michael Parker
That's pretty fucking stupid and is advised against by basically everyone for a reason. Too late now though
Your weight isn't the problem anymore, it's your lack of muscle. You could go back up to 180 and still be at an 'acceptable' weight and bf%. It'll also make losing weight again, if you need to, easier since you actually have muscle.
Just eat at TDEE if you are really scared of the fat and make sure to eat an assload of protein.
Jeremiah Wood
How do I gain weight/muscle if I eat at TDEE..?
Jose Cox
Eat at maintenance and recomp.
Josiah Adams
Can you elaborate?
Elijah Barnes
Eat slightly above TDEE, like 2100-2300, if you can't get over the mental block of gaining a little bit of fat/weight then eat at TDEE. With 150g+ of protein
You'll gain muscle regardless, especially as a beginner. And much more easily than if you were cutting at 1300 calories while lifting.
Zachary Anderson
Gaining a pound of muscle takes half the amount of calories gaining a pound of fat does, so it is theoretically possible to eat at maintenance and gain muscle while simultaneously losing fat.
Carter Scott
>Tfw cheat era just started
Gabriel Stewart
try maggots cleaning, soil enemas and go plant-based (as in grow your own plants from your own composted tissue). Oh and you can implement EF straight from the start (Eternal Fasting >infinity). Good luck user.
Tyler Young
Okay, when do I start cutting?
Parker Wright
Meme keto diet is working pretty well for me. Anyone else doing meme shit to lose weight?
Hunter Jones
idk man, when you finish your LP program or somethin. If you gain more muscle than fat during your program you'll look better than you do now even without a cut so I wouldn't be too worried about it for at least a couple months.
Alexander Cox
that body fat calculator uses imperial units only so it's literally useless.
Colton Walker
>150lbs around 25% bf, >I starved myself for like 5 months (500kcal/day)
There are no words.
Noah Green
>tfw two maintenance days I feel amazing, had the best BM I've had since I started eating at a deficit, and actually had the energy to lift with vigor. Can't wait to get these last few lbs off.
Dominic Moore
Uh oh. Chocolate bars.
Joshua Jenkins
I know it was stupid
Hudson Ward
>roommate left out a huge bowl of oatmeal cookie batter unattended
John Lewis
>5`11 150lbs around 25% bf Nigga you need to lift holy shit. At that height/body fat percentage you're basically a skeleton in disguise.
Jayden Martinez
Maintenance days? What you mean senpai?
Nicholas Hall
6'11 82kg (180lbs in burger units) still feel fat
Luke Robinson
Go to AA. Anorexics anonymous
Jeremiah Cox
Meant 6'1 phoneposting
Benjamin Adams
I just wanted to lose my fucking mantits.
They are still there, kill me
Parker Brown
Your starvation ate all your muscle now you're skinny fat incarnate
Kevin Diaz
keto makes me feel like absolute shit and I've got shit to do.
Elijah Smith
Eating at your TDEE.
Nathan Bennett
im almost in the 170s
but now i have plantar faciitis from running and i can barely walk
FUCK MY LIFE
Thomas Fisher
There are 3500kcals in 1 lb.
So if I eat at a 1000kcal deficit every day per week, would I lose 2lbs or is it a lot more complicated than that?
Matthew Gutierrez
>So if I eat at a 1000kcal deficit every day per week, would I lose 2lbs or is it a lot more complicated than that? This is how it works. Just count EVERYTHING.
Julian Mitchell
I work out 4x a week and work 50 hours but I'm still doing it. Only felt shitty for a day or two thankfully.
Jonathan Morales
you dont lose pure fat, you will always lose some muscle mass too. but essentially you will lose 3500kcal of bodyweight a week.
Cameron Gray
Thanks guys, it just seemed too simple to be true.
I'm not /fat/ but I ate 5 mickie d's cheese burgers ultimately cheating on meeting my calories for the day. Never felt so good.
I'm only cheating myself tho.
James Powell
>or is it a lot more complicated than that? yes it is more complicated than that but its a start
Logan Jenkins
>fatass >running might as well just break your legs while you're at it
Owen Jenkins
>tfw 7 lbs past goal and still feel fat while everyone tells you to stop cutting
Eli Ramirez
crying frog with gun
Nolan Parker
The worst feeling.
John Brown
Came back from the gym a few hours ago and I am hungry as fuck. I can't stop thinking about grabbing a burger.
Ian Gray
fuck em all and go full /thinspo/
Hunter Anderson
you can thank fifty years of the fitness and weight loss industries for that. it has been an agreed upon scientific principle that d(biomass) = (calories in) - (calories out) for over a hundred years now... and yet almost everyone believes that it's more complex than that, due to the massive amount of horseshit floating around.
Nicholas Roberts
>massive amount of horseshit floating around. Well, how else are all the momscience magazines gonna survive if they don't come up with a revolutionizing new method of fat loss? Writing calories in
Cooper Collins
I think I could use grape juice to replace a lot of my soda addiction. I know it's a lot better, but I know it's still full of sugar, even if it's natural sugar. It's gotta still be a lot better, right?
Jaxson Brooks
Tfw 15% bodyfat
Jace Ward
Juice can contain even more calories than soft drinks, just get rid of your addiction to sweet tasting drinks entirely. Drink tea with no sugar instead, it's gonna taste bad at first, but you'll get used to it and you'll start liking it eventually.
Levi Turner
Nope. Tangibly better on your teeth maybe but literally juice is just as bad as soda.
Brandon Wilson
juice also has a lot of sugar it's like drinking candy
Blake Roberts
Why didn't you Americans tell me that peanut butter and jam is so damn delicious?
Benjamin Torres
>was 180 lbs three years ago >now I'm 230 >I still look as bad in clothes now as I did then
shit genes mate, what can you do
Jack Wilson
sugar free soda is better than juice
Samuel Adams
How accurate is this chart? Will I finally get rid of my distended gut if I drop my bf% to 15%?
Colton Carter
if you can get your vitamins from somewhere else, you are definitely correct. Some people go all rogue on supplements tho.
Xavier Cruz
I mean, even if you want vitamins real fruit is better than juice. Comes with actual fiber and shiettt.
Camden Cruz
Gone from ~310 to 220lbs in the last few months. Still got a ways to go but I don't feel like a fucking useless whale anymore. We're all gonna make it lads.
Caleb Bell
Maybe but it could be ur posture
Benjamin Rogers
any /fat/ties doing keto? I'm considering doing it for the last 30 pounds I have to lose.
what is your experience with it if you did do it?
Alexander Long
Just eat grapes instead brah
David Turner
I’ve been running since I was 290 6’3- I recently had PF, I got it settled in about 3 days.
Lacrosse ball, roll your foot and alternate between relaxed foot and raised big toe.
Freeze a water bottle and roll your foot (relaxed and with toe raised)
Once it improves (gauge based off of morning condition), then start running again slowly. Take it easy and stretch. On day 4 I was good to go again
Matthew Gomez
>tfw used to be good friends with cler. >tfw lost contact, haven't talked in about a year now.
Michael Reed
did it once to lose about 80lbs in 3 months it worked but I wanted to fucking kill myself afterwards put all the weight back on plus interest
wouldn't recommend it for people who have an 'all or nothing' attitude like myself
Jonathan Robinson
Only thing I'm concerned about is my lifts going to shit, i think ill just give it a go and see what happens
Camden Moore
do it bro for science
John Johnson
I'm in the same position you are. Your lifts go to shit regardless. Only the first week is bad on keto, otherwise plenty of energy in the gym.
Nolan Martin
oh ok good that's encouraging.
Aaron Gutierrez
I'm pretty sure I'm at 16-17% bf and I look the closest to the 11-12 on this pic
Justin Nelson
>28 >220 6'2" four months ago >Find out cholesterol is high >Panic mode >Start fervently exercising and cutting 1000 from TDEE >No more soda, fried shit, red meat, etc >Not one cheat day or day over on calories >164 today >Got blood drawn yesterday Wonder what I fucked up in the process. Also, lower belly fat pls go
Levi Adams
So would the 5x5 routine listed in the sticky be a good place to start if I have essentially never lifted weights in my life?
Michael Miller
It's a meme crash diet, did it for 6 months then yoyoed back with interest. You might be able to employ it successfully if you manage to identify your breaking point and have a plan in place to switch to something actually healthy and sustainable when it happens.
Mason Evans
What are some healthy and sustainable meals to eat
Christopher Wood
I'm on the second smallest notch on my belt fatties.
Soon I'll be buying my next belt from the normal person section.
Sebastian Richardson
You'd have to be retarded to yoyo if you're counting calories.
Robert Robinson
Unprocessed carbs, fruit and vegetables. Nutrient dense low calorie foods. You know, what the FDA have been trying to get you to eat for the last 50 years.
Michael Myers
what does the FDA do except protect lobbyists?
Sebastian Cook
I went on my first binge in 6 months. I don't even feel sick, I'm back on track. I'm currently at 1300 calories and need 300 more to reach 1600. Binge eating yesterday gave me back my motivation instead of habit. I think I'm going to do this again during Christmas or thanksgiving.
Ayden Young
Which lobbyists?
Caleb Williams
>peanut butter and jam >jam It's Jelly you commie trash
John Garcia
I have a goal to hit and when I hit it I'm going to go completely fucking ham, just for one day. Bad enough to make me never want to do it again.
I thought these feelings of craving junk food would leave me eventually but I'm still a fat guy in my head.
Benjamin Collins
want to make it even better? >Toast bread >split perfectly ripe banana down the middle >add jelly to one side of toast >add peanut butter to the other >place the bananas on one of the breads >put breads together eat senpai. Partly one of the reasons why i got so fucking fat in the first place
Adam Nguyen
56 pounds in 4 months? Fuck
Noah Miller
This is jelly. You don't put that in snadwiches unless you're some kind of barbarian.
Elijah Lewis
If I get 200 by my birthday (23 pounds 3.5 months away) I'll have a binge meal. Gotta keep on the narrow though because ultimate goal is 150
Alexander Young
I'm enjoying keto so far. After I got over keto flu anyway. Just need electrolytes to avoid the flu.
Luis Sullivan
There is a difference between jelly and jam, but what you posted is jello faggot.
Eli Allen
I'm not even a ketofag, but please stop telling yourself you yo-yoed back because of the way you lost weight and not because you went back to your old shitty habits.
Zachary Sanchez
might buy a birthday cake and eat it whole
Thomas Morales
keto + fasting completely changes your relationship to food in general.
Brandon Jackson
I know, right? Fucking big vegetable has the FDA telling people to eat healthy foods instead of mcshit.
Matthew Hernandez
>keto + fasting completely changes your relationship to food in general. Elaborate plox