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What are normie hobbies?
It's a little overwhelming trying to develop hobbies when literally anything could be a hobby
Games, photography, drinking, cycling, riding and musical instruments
If you're an autistic weeb you should try to pick up the piano, (not literally). You can play some nice anime theme songs on the piano.
Dunno, I'll list my hobbies for inspo though. Dunno how normie they are
>cars (oldschool jap, wrenching, drifting), reading, tea, lifting, piano, violin, guitar, languages (french, want to learn italian and russian), longboard/skateboard, audio stuff, biking, shitposting, Veeky Forums, keyboards, building stuff, cooking
Are JP's authoring programs actually worth doing to get a sense of your goals?
Cardio lifting and gaming. I don't see very many people that are into music surprisingly.
Read more, listen to music that isn't just top 40, go hiking, camping, stargazing, learn to cook, learn how to operate a ham radio or do woodwork.
Anything that's an unpaid version of a job is a good way to define most hobbies.
>tfw weekend I went off track with my diet, missed Friday and Monday workouts.
I must repent.
I paint/play Warhammer. I know it seems childish but the majority of the client base are actually 30-50 yo responsible adults with high paying jobs and families who use the hobby as a creative outlet. Also spending 50+ hours on a centrepiece model you will have on display for a lifetime is rewarding
It stops being overwhelming when you realize that the vast majority of hobbies are agonizingly boring.
Trial and error will show you what you can enjoy for at least half an hour. That will be your hobby.
For me it's reading about ancient cultures and philosophy, music, both listening and making, programming, /3/, learning languages and of course anything lifting related.
My vices are:
>vidya
>movies and tv series
>drinking with friends
>shitposting here
I say you should strike a balance between your hobbies and vices for maximum comfy.
What are some of the best books/resources on the basics of social interaction? I don't even mean pick up artistry, just the basics of holding conversations, with men or women, being interesting, thinking of things to say, how to use and read body language, so that I'm proficient or at least not completely retarded when it comes to talking to or being around people.
Weight lifting (aesthetics > strength)
Death metal. play the drums in a band
Boxing
3D modeling for vidya (job)
How to Win Friends and Influence People
how do you ask girls out
Grills you already know or randoms?
Either way jus b urself
I read i little bit of it a while ago. From what I can remember I thought it was an old-timey meme book more about business than social dynamics. About shaking hands and being nice to your co-workers and stuff. Does it go into psychology, eye contact, body language, how social dynamics work, that sort of thing?
ex co worker of mine. i see her everyone in a while in the grocery shop.
Ive just never done this before. what the hell do i even say
>ayy yo gurl lemme holla at u. u want sum fukk?
ALTERNATIVELY
>start conversation with her about some stupid shit that she'll find interesting
>get her in a receptive mood (happy, giggling and shit like that)
>ask her if she wants to catch up sometime (if you know her well enough to actually catch up)
>If you don't know her that well ask her if she wants to go out with you sometime or to specific event/location/date
>if you don't know her that well and you lack the testicular fortitude to be direct, ask for her number and learn how to text game
werks for me. Can't tell you exact words to say though because that's retarded
Most important thing to remember is that it doesn"t matter if you get rejected because all women are stupid cunts desu
I'm getting into enjoyment hobbies, such as:
>cooking (real MEALS, pouring my heart in the kitchen)
>tobacco (cigarettes, cigars and pipes; goes hand in hand with literature)
>alcohol (whisky, brandy, scotch, Mixology, etc.)
>micro-dosing psychedelics (mainly LSD)
>speed (methamphetamine and cocaine, paired with some opioids after, like klonopin or xanax)
All in moderation, it's possible, I'm doing it.
Doesn't interfere with my fitness, my academic life, my mindfulness and overall sortedness, I'm always vigilant.
DO NOT ABUSE. GET SORTED FIRST, THEN YOU CAN TRY DOING THIS.
Be especially careful with speed, really.
Check your hormones before trying it too.
Three of those things are the straight-up opposite of self-improvement.
Probably four honestly, every dude I've known who regularly microdosed came off as a sorta creepy weirdo.
>paired with some opioids after, like klonopin or xanax
If you actually believe any of your post, I'm genuinely sorry for you.
>every dude I've known who regularly microdosed came off as a sorta creepy weirdo.
really? I was thinking about trying to microdose because my brain is just so slow and I'm cripplingly autistic.
That's just the impression I've gotten from them. If you're cripplingly autistic, I don't think microdosing is gonna solve your social problems.
Taking acid is fun, but you gotta make a whole day of it. Go hiking or just walk around the city if it's nice out.
The only thing we everr talk about is either school or work related stuff.
I'm a one dimensional dweeb who spends his Saturday nights playing civilization and shit posting on a fitness inspired anime image board
If you're as bad as you say then my sincere advice is to forget about the girl for now and to focus on 'sorting yourself out'. Even if you do convince her to go out with you it won't last if you remain a developmental manlet.
Take some time to figure out what you want from life, I mean really take the time to do it, then work out what aspects of your life are helping you towards your goal and what aspects are hindering you. Foster the positives and discard the negatives.
Only once you're on the way to conquering yourself should you worry about others. You can try and do both at the same time if you must, but if you can't keep your life from being a trainwreck how could you stop a relationship from becoming one?
Apologies for typing liking a feg.
Worked out today, feel relieved that I finally did it. Almost got 1pl8 bench today but I failed. Way better than not going at all.
How can I learn to casually dance at a bar or party?
I have a problem with my movements around girls. When hugging them my movements are really rigid and awkward and I don't feel comfortable in my own skin. I also don't know how to hug properly, if that makes sense. It always seems to be really awkward. Is there a resource on how to touch/hug properly?
learning shuffling, you can use it in a number of music genres
Links to tutorials that take me from "Can't move legs" to "Dance God"?
Anybody here have/had social anxiety?
I recently realized mine's way worse than i thought. I have to get this shit fixed before i can focus on anything else.
Probably not as bad as this , but it has been an issue all my life. I just want to experience the world without this constant fear of non-existent threats.
My home and my gym are pretty much the only places i feel comfortable
>tfw I don't even feel safe in my room
Do you guys have a system to actually read, watch and listen to all the self-improvement crap you find?
I've been far more productive on that regard since I started downloading entire playlists on 4k VD and sending them to my iPad. Having a list to keep track of what I've seen and what I have to see is working too.
I only buy/download one book at a time and I only allow to get the next one when I finnished it
No, from what I remember it was basically a how to on being in customer service. I get being nice and taking interest in others is important and basic shit like remembering people's names but imo the book tells you to take it way too far into yes-man/pushover territory.
>Learned how to cook
>Started doing meal prep
>Actually starting to see some gainz
Learning to cook made everything so much easier. Learn as many practical skills as you can.
Hey user, you're not typing like a feg. We're here to help each other make it.
I'm making decent improvements all around. Acutally working out and not eating like shit but I cannot seem to do no fap. Ik it's a "meme" or whatever but I'm not really trying to do it for crazy "super powers" or whatever. I'm just a lonely dude waiting for my semester to start and all I can think of doing once I workout/cut/done playing vidya is jerking my dick. Any suggestions friends?
Alright Bois, just visited college and it was amazing how easy it is to get grills there. Now I am back in my home town for a month and a qt I know keeps texting me. She has literally said she would fuck me, but she doesn't know if she feels right about it because we have an age difference of almost two years(1.9 years) and she is younger. It is legal where I live. I was an ugly motherfucker all my life until recently, so I have no experience with grills that like me, just with lesbians and fat chicks who would talk to me about their problems, but now that I am Veeky Forums, Veeky Forums, and over 6ft, grills actually fucking like me. How do I talk to the qt to let her realize that 18 and 16 is not a big deal? I actually like her as a person(srs) so I don't want to mess up the friendship.
How to prevent meltdowns, I mean extreme sadness? Also how to be more willing to improve myself? I am extremly stubborn when It comes to changes.
Am I the only one who tries to improve myself with the end-goal of being like a shitty super-hero/super-human/king amongst men? What kind of motivations do you guys have?
This guys pretty good
You are on this planet and this life for a limited amount of time. Unless you believe in fairytales this is only thing you will ever experience before fading into nothingness.
Your job is it to experience as much as you can, be the best you can.
Daily reminder that drinking is not a hobby, ya filthy degenerates
I signed up for a psychologist once and the one piece of good advice I received was perceive this anxiousness as excitement, try to get into anxious situations to get through it instead of trying to avoid it and write about anxious experiences after they happen to identify what you might have done differently and how you felt
worked pretty well
>sad cunt circlejerk threads
I've been away for a while. Good to see these abominations still exist
I love art and I really want to create something, but drawing exercises bore the shit out of me. Should I keep going until I'm able to draw stuff from imagination? Because right now it's 0 fun.
I have a lot of things that I must do, that I should do and that I could do, yet I can't even deal with the first.
Has anyone here been very lazy semi-neet and managed to turn their life around into high productivity? How did you do it?
As with all things user, gotta get basics down.
Little personal example, a friend and I started playing guitar about the same time. He went with learning chords and notes and theory and I went straight to guitar tabs to learn "dope" songs and because that was more fun than practicing scales or chord progression. Several years later, guess who is an actual musician and guess who can only play a couple songs and knows 2 chords
"Let's grab a drink"
I would recommend not having sex with her.
I changed from being a neet to holding a full-time job basically against my will, I had a duty to my parents not to quit. I felt suicidal for several months. I still thoroughly dislike it and don't know what my way out is.
That's the reality of "productivity" for most people. It rarely makes you feel good. That's why so few people do it willingly.
Then you get the occasional guy who's motivated by sheer passion and enthusiasm. I've felt it before. I have no explanation for it.
How can I make my doggos stop being little shits and behave?
When I walk them and let them loose in the park they will run away from me, the will constantly be pulling the cords as I walk them, constantly crossing from left to right...
I already have too much stuff on my plate to take up glassworking, so you should go take up glassworking for me.
Make them respect you. They need to see you as the leader
I want to get into the meditation meme. How do you do it? Am I just supposed to sit down in a dark room and try not to think of anything? Is there any beginner guide to meditation or something like that that could give me a few pointers?
Fuck, I wish this world was better.
It always boils down to "just do it even though you hate it, every single day for the rest of your life"
You really should buy the mind illuminated, it's the best book by far.
>Does it go into psychology, eye contact, body language, how social dynamics work, that sort of thing?
Yes. Look at the index of the book and I believe there is a section on how to be a good conversationalist. You do need eye contact and sincere interest in what the other person is saying. You need to listen intently.
What I might add is that it helps to know a lot in general, something that helped me in conversations is just practicing explaining how things work, explaining stories, etc. Record yourself.
>That's the reality of "productivity" for most people. It rarely makes you feel good. That's why so few people do it willingly.
I actually really enjoy being productive when I get to use my knowledge, like when I write a program, or solve a difficult math problem, but actually getting to the stage where I have usable knowledge is just so fucking hard.
> not literally
thanks for clarifying, user.
The male respects me, but the female kinda does what she wants most of the time. Are you saying that I should beat the ever loving shit out of her?
When they missbehave I give them a spank once or twice, but not really with force, just firm to show that I was not pleased with them.
No don't beat your dogs lol. If you prevent the female from pulling you around maybe she'll stop? If she wants to cross the street don't let her, that type of thing. I'm not a trainer genius I'm afraid
>Cut out two close friends in my life because drugs
>Over the past week I've had 8 beers and 4 cigarettes
>Been a week and four days since liquor and coke
>Social life dwindled heavy, but gf and her family are proud of me
>Stopping my porn addiction today
>Can do 20 pushups without rest, can bench 80 pounds (i'm a skinny dude, but my pull up game strong)
>Looking for a job
I'm excited to see where I'll be a year from now. I'm glad to have read these threads.
7 habits of highly effective people
>assume full responsibility for your life, learn to set realistic goals, to always begin with whatever is the hardest, to think win/win and become emotionally independent
>literally changed my life
just built a new PC, thanks for the rare pepe. It'll be the first in my new collection.
This is a sad truth. The even more sad part is that I'm a forensic tech at a medical examiner's office, constantly surrounded by death.
I have a job in programming and IT, and I enjoy doing those things, but the job is mostly boredom, bullshit, annoying co-workers, stress. And then you get a problem that is too vaguely defined and no one is willing to help you. That really fucks you over.
My point is that we have this idealised vision of doing fun things, being productive, but it never pans out that way, there's always the bullshit attached to it.
Well, you already made it. That's a huge step up from where I am right now.
this is awesome
Hey, guys I'm in a difficult situation.
My girlfriend went fro a church charity trip to Africa for 1 month with 4 other girls and 1 guy. They will be staying at the place patron rented them and they will be helping children.
We have been seeing together for 3 months and just before her trip we went to our trip for a few days. After our trip we said goodbye and she was crying a lot and said that she really wants us to hang out after she comes. I said that I can't say this for 100% because a lot of things can happen but I hope and I think that everything will be okay. I said that we are responsible for our actions and we can only trust in another person and only then can we achieve the same goal (being together). I also said that although I know her for 3 months there are some qualities that I appreciate in her and that's why she's the girl I've been with the longest. All the other girls I've been with, I've ended it after 1 or 2 months because they were annoying or had bad personality qualities. She told me she loved me for the first time (I never told it first, only after she said, I said I love you too). She was crying her eyes out and I gave her my bracelet for memory and she cried even more. The next day I came to say goodbye before she left her home and she was crying but I kept it lighthearted and said that I hope she will have a good time because I know she's been waiting for this trip for so long. She wanted us to stay in touch via skype. She set a picture of us together for he phone background.
She then texted me when she arrived and said that we could hear each other soon via skype. I said "cool, text me when you plan to call so we can arrange time." She replied today:
Is 8am tomorrow good for you?:)
Because in the evening it's really spontaneous and I can't tell you in advance when I'll have wifi:)
This made me fucking angry.
(cont.)
Spontaneus? What the fuck is this shit? Only bad choice of words or what? Spontaneous for me means partying in shit and not not having a wifi.
I somehow wanted to show her that I'm not okay with this but I can't come off mad or sad (that's beta). I don't like her choice of words mostly.
So I replied:
"I'm working tomorrow morning:)"
I think that it's a good reply as it shows that I have shit to do and I'm not waiting for her all the time. And if she really wants she will get in touch with me.
NOW MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS MY FUCKING MIND. I OVERTHINK EVERY SHIT.
I'm pretty alpha in our relationship, I don't show too much emotions even I feel them, I wait to cool off and act. I lead all the time. I think she is really in love with me.
BUT
1 month is a long time. Feelings can change, we can start drifting apart. And girls are girls. They can cheat. My worst fear is that she will cheat and come back like nothing happened and I'll never know.
I will stay loyal, I'm 100%. I could cheat this weekend with some girls that were all over me, but I rejected them. I'm not bad person. I just hope that she is not stupid.
I can't stop thinking about this shit to be honest. And this text message, spontaneous? What the fuck.
That's why I'm thinking about breaking up with her to end it all. I can't handle this shit for 1 month bros.
Has anyone ever been in this situation and can give some advice? I trust her, but Veeky Forums and redpill taught me the truth about girls. You really can't trust them even if they're the nicest girl ever. They can still cheat and lie to your face and the worst thing is you will never find out.
It this your first time trying to quit?
Good on you for dropping the blow, mate.
Had a case at work today where a party of three bought some coke. They snorted it and one of them realized it wasn't coke. All three passed out. Only one woke up.
The cocaine was cut with fucking FENTANYL.
Dude its africa. Humanitys asshole. Power is intermitent. Wifi is a treasure for just a few hours. And its a mission trip... You are being insecure.
IMO, "making it" is subjective to the individual just as much as it is on his peers to think of him as making it. It is all relative to the individual's goals.
I hardly consider being a state laborer in a morgue "making it", despite my job being pretty cool objectively.
Pretty much what this user said. You're being insecure. She probably does all her mission work in the evenings. The fact that she is still wanting to talk to you in the mornings should be good with you.
It's my second active attempt. What's driving me right now is the fact it feels uncomfortable as fuck when I meditate and take deep breaths. I miss running too. For now I've been making milkshakes and coffee but as the days go by I'm slowly moving closer to liking my coffee black. I never used a chaser or mixed my liqour either.
Oh man. My first time with H was wicked. I felt like a vampire. I was thirsty as shit and everytime I tried drinking water I'd throw it up. The come up was fun as shit though-- Rubbing my hair.
That's true and I understand when I look at it from the logic point of view. But I didn't like her text really. Because in the evening it's REALLY SPONTANEUS and I can't tell you in advance when I'll have wifi:) what the fuck?
But yeah, I agree with you and my logical brain also does.
But after I took the red pill I have really strong trust issues with girls. I avoid relationships because of this. I can't open up to girls because I know that there is a high possibility they can hurt me a lot and I will need a lot of time to recover. That's why I'm being cold and staying out of it all together. Girls cheat and they cheat a lot. And even if I believe my gf will stay loyal there's still a possibility that she can cheat. And the worst thing is I'll never find out. I don't want to be a cuck, I'd rather kill myself. That's why I'm thinking of breaking up with her after she arrives because I can't be sure she didn't cheat. I'm fucking mess man, my head is an animal, I'd rather not have any relationship anymore than to get through shit like this.
I do this thing that I really want to stop, I'll describe it and maybe you guys can help me figure out a way to cut it out.
Basically if I've got intellectual downtime, like I'm walking somewhere or waiting for something, I find myself living out weird little fantasy situations. Walter Mittie style.
Like in my hallucinative daydream some armed bandits try to rob me and I beat the shit out of them or that cute girl across from me gestures that she wants to fuck in the restroom or I hotline Miami style beat up a bunch of armed thugs with a crowbar or something. Just stupid, juvenile, self serving BS.
I don't like it. I want to live in reality and be who I am, I don't want to have fantasy situations like that because I feel like it's pathetic and compensating for feeling powerless in real life. I'm not powerless in real life nor am I pathetic, things are going really well for me. I think I picked up the habit of daydreaming in middle school when I (like most kids I now realize) felt insecure and bullied.
Again- I have no reason to escape my life. I'm very happy with how things are for me. But how can I stop doing this stupid fantasizing thing?
Anyone taken medication for social anxiety?
I'm considering it, because it makes working a fucking nightmare. I've always had it terribly.
I tried quitting a million times and I'm currently having my cravings. Good luck.
Considered Kratom or Phenibut? They should be pretty good for what you want.
First thing
>"I'm working tomorrow morning:)"
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but considering your frustration this just seems really passive agressive to say.
Second thing
If she's gone for a whole month and you've only been dating for 3? That's a whole new ballgame bucko. Personally I would've just told her to have a good time a break it off there, tell her hopefully we'd get back together when she comes back.
You'd have to have a lot of trust to think someone wasn't going to cheat on a one month trip to a faraway place, because the truth is, you are never gonna no the whole truth of how the trip went unless she tells you how it goes, and if you can't handle the idea of that then maybe you should just forget about her. In any case there is no point in worrying because you'll never know the truth, but I guess some warning signs that she hooking up with someone else would be her suddenly not wanting to skype anymore or losing eagerness to talk to you.
From the sounds of it the poor girl was crying a lot when she was leaving, probably worried sick that either you'd break it off there, cheat on her, or that this trip would just result in you losing trust/growing apart from eachother. Cut the girl a little slack, and play it by ear, that's literally all you can do now besides just breaking it outright. Their is no point in getting worked up in your own thoughts and insecurities as it will solve nothing at this point.
italian is a great language to learn. i recommend
Thanks bro, but no I wrote this message after I cooled off a little bit. I don't think it's passive aggressive desu. I wanted to wrote some actual passive aggressive shit but I controlled myself. I really can't talk to her in the morning because I work, I could take a little break if I wanted but the fact is that I'm working.
Yeah, I understand what you mean and you're probably right, but I'm fucking psycho, my head is a mess really.
Read this and you'll understand what I mean
Thanks for your help, appreciate it.
Of course you are right but I would be very happy if I could just get my shit together and finish my masters and get a job. You can always aim for higher goals of course and my end goals would seem unobtainable to most. Making it has several steps and meanings depending on the 'it'.
hobbies are kind of for NEET.
if you have that much time that you're asking that question, try and do something to make money. Really you just want to trick yourself into thinking you're an interesting person and thus gain confidence.
You don't need much more than
>seasonal sport
>outdoor activity
>rainy day activity
>reading
Realize it's a compulsion. Find something else to keep your hands busy.
you are just a jealous type. you are hung up on one fucking word. chill the fuck out because you said it yourself
>that we are responsible for our actions and we can only trust in another person and only then can we achieve the same goal (being together)
you don't trust her, plain and simple. You sound full of shit too. Maybe you should sort that out first.
I wasn't arguing against your point, just added my personal experience.
Be more honest with yourself and others. The more you hold in, the bigger you explode when you can't take anymore.
People take real honesty surprisingly well. If they don't, realize you probably don't need them.
What are truly patrician activities?
>business
>lifting
>reading
what else?
Bretty good advice senpai.
Man, I'm not jealous. I will try to explain. I don't trust people especially girls, after reading some stories on reddit/Veeky Forums/red pill about how they can lie and actually destroy people lives. I love this girl in a way I can love it, but I will never trust her. Those stories and red pill fucked me up. I can attract girls, but I can't trust them and get into relationship because I reject them so they can't hurt my feelings. It's awful.
How am I full of shit? I'm not lying, I'm telling you how it actually is in my head right now.
>that we are responsible for our actions and we can only trust in another person and only then can we achieve the same goal (being together)
Yes, I said that and I stand by it. I was in club this weekend with my friend and some girls were all over us but I rejected them because I will not cheat on my gf. I can't trust her though for the reasons I told above.
I really thank you that you took your time to answer my shit. I really appreciate it man, because I can't talk to people about it because they think I'm psycho (I am lol). But I feel much better talking to you.
If you're still around could you tell me a bit about it user? I've always been interested but it seems like something that's pretty expensive to get into.
Oh I wasn't arguing against you either, I was just saying