What does Veeky Forums think of tobacco? I think it increases your natural testosterone levels more than any other substances and that's why there's a war on it.
I started smoking and 1 week later I was lifting in the gym for the first time in my life. Without even having planned it.
>start smoking and finally inhale >exhale smoke and teleport to the gym How did OP do it guys?
Robert Morales
you stupid fuck where do I even imply that? I got cravings to go Lifting after I started smoking. I also stare at people in the eyes now and walk more confidently.
It all started to happen right after my first smoke.
Robert Anderson
>stare people in the eyes walking by >thinks he's confident but he's really creepy as fuck and looks like a serial killer One cigarette did this too him lads...
Easton Ward
Smoking is bad mmkay? Not only decreases your lung capacity but makes it hard to breathe and you end up coughing all night. t. heavy smoker for several years. I feel much better now that I've stopped and I can actually use all of my lungs.
Nolan Walker
same, but I started vaping now. now im just trying to cut my addiction to vaping lmao
Luke Harris
i bought 20 toro cigars from thomson cigars
very good, now i have 18
Ryder Taylor
You mean to tell me smoking makes you look and feel cool?
Wow.
You're like the kid who thinks he invented masterbating.
Smoke 'em up Johnny. When you're old enough I'll buy you your first beer.
Joshua Anderson
The best time in my life so far is right after I started using nicotine, granted it was also my freshman year of college so we need more data.
What I've read about nicotine and test indicates a small increase with initial use, decline with cessation, and about even in between.
Anecdotally, think about all the people you know who smoke - most of them are pretty high test in personality. I think this is more a correlation, in that people who still smoke despite fags constantly telling them to stop are probably pretty high test people. On the other hand people who are in a constant state of "quitting" are generally cucks.
Henry Cox
Anybody have any experience with pipe tobacco? I don't want to take up smoking as a habit per se but just thought of it as something that might be nice if I find a spot with a nice view while hiking to sit down and think ( I've been told it is really good in regards to relaxing and concentration). Is this bullshit? Not worth the risk? I've tried smoking when I was younger and have even smoked a few cigars and didn't get much off of it, is smoking it out of the pipe literally the same shit or is it stronger?
Hudson Bennett
Only girls who smoke like guys who smoke and girls who smoke are trashy thots
"If she smokes she pokes"
Elijah Jones
Or maybe the type of person who would smoke despite all the warnings is the same type of person who would talk to a girl without pissing themselves hmm?
Christian Morgan
That's basically what I said. Can you read?
Logan Butler
Yes I pipe smoke regularly. If I do it everyday I get sores on my mouth that take a week to heal. So I do it only on the weekends. Smoke cool(temperature) and don't let the bowl get too hot. Obviously never inhale.
I highly enjoy it. Cigars too for certain occasions.
Luis Reyes
I've smoked a few cigars and a pipe once, other than that it's all cigs, chaw, dip, and vape (and the gum). The pipe is basically a cigar, benefits to me are that it doesn't last as long as a cigar, isn't as hard to smoke without nigga lipping, less scooby snacks. Cons - you look like a fedora wearing fag.
Cooper Allen
It's actually the exact opposite, are you fucking stupid?
Do you think umbrellas cause rain?
Xavier Butler
try cigars and bourbon, one of the best feels ever
get a 5x50 cigar
Landon Ramirez
Proven wrong time and time again.
I would accept the idea that only girls whose fathers smoked like guys who smoke.
Jonathan Foster
Faggot alert! Real men quit cold turkey.
Joseph Flores
>I think this is more a correlation, in that people who still smoke despite fags constantly telling them to stop are probably pretty high test people
>Or maybe the type of person who would smoke despite all the warnings is the same type of person who would talk to a girl without pissing themselves hmm?
How is this not the same thing?
Robert Evans
Stop while you're ahead. I quit smoking 6 months after I started lifting, my anxiety and general feeling like shit went away.
Kevin Perry
I try not to chew in front of people mostly woman, but I always feel like a man when I throw a lip in
Charles Reed
Smoking pipe tobacco is usually seen more as a hobby and thus is treated as such. You don't inhale into your lungs, you smoke a pipe like you would a cigar. Also smoking a pipe after a long hike or camp is kino. imo it's worth the risk, if you have self control. I smoke maybe 2-3 times a month.
Wyatt Mitchell
I have one cigar a week with my bros, and it's fucking great.
Michael Baker
true that. putting a lip in after a workout is a great feeling. almost makes me wish i still chewed
Colton Garcia
I've had a cigar for a few special times in my life - once when I graduated college, once when I got my first full time salary job, also when my brother and room mate got their first full time salary jobs. I've recently moved out and wanted to have a cigar but I've never been to a cigar shop and I know I'd look like a fucking idiot since I have no clue what to even get.
Juan Lewis
I usually smoked around 5 cigs a day purely out of fucking boredom or to just chill out
Michael Moore
>be me >drink pre workout >workout >drink protein shake >smoke a cigarette >feel extremely fatigued and light headed to the point I want to go lay down
why does this happen?
Gavin Evans
I'd love to smoke pipe, get a lovely estate pipe and smoke really nice virginia or a aromatic once in a while. Unfortunately nicotine levels found in the urine of pipe smokers are justas high as cigar smokers and are ~60% that of cigarette smokers.
I quit cigs because of future cardiovascular health and nicotine is inflamatory, so while it is a great hobby, it does have negative health side effects that could effect Veeky Forumsness or gains.
Austin Sanders
just a warning being addicted is really really not fun t. smoked since i was 12 quit when i was 18
Grayson Cook
>Obviously never inhale. >You don't inhale into your lungs, you smoke a pipe like you would a cigar. Why?
Nicholas Wilson
because cigar amd pipe tobacco produces a much thicker, heavier, amd harsher smoke than regular cigarette tobacco. if you inhale all the way it feels like shit and will make you cough
Nicholas Morris
Like all drugs/addictions it's fucking excellent at first. Tobacco is extremely addicting and there's very few people I know who can control it, and even then they usually just don't want to smoke unless they've been drinking a lot. I'm working on quitting right now because I started coughing up flem uncontrollably, and usually there was black shit in it. Hell, half the time I would have to cough so violently that someone would say bless you when I tried to clear my throat. I only smoked for 5 years, it's such a gross habit.
Aiden Lee
Learn from my quads and fucked up lungs and throat brethren; don't fucking smoke.
Jose Adams
what do you think about dipping, anons?
Jason Morgan
pipe smoke is between cigars and cigarettes in terms of density. Still don't want to inhale though.
I smoke four bowls a day generally unless I'm dipping. It's really damn hard to beat a fine cigar though... Too poorfag to have them regularly. Maybe had around 60 total in my life.
Jaxon Clark
It's great. Wouldn't recommend it to someone uninitiated to nicotine however.
Dylan Perez
Just lower the nicotine level over time to 0mg. It's not that hard. I'm currently on 2mg and getting bored with it after a few months, can go long stretches without the vape.
Nolan Johnson
agreed. it's objectively better than smoking >no shitty smell >less expensive >more potent >manly as fuck >doesnt destroy lungs
Aiden Moore
somewhat related: will drinking regularly (couple times a week) make me lose my gains?
Dominic Baker
Yeah man, I'm on Ending Smoke by Mark Rippetoke. Three times per week you go down by 0.25mg.
Christian Edwards
>doesn't destroy lungs Just your teeth and jaw.
Levi Lopez
Jesse Ventura plz go nobody cares about your dirty ass mouth. The "war" on tobacco is just a cash grab to decrease healthcare costs and increase tax revenue. Vaping regulations won't be far behind since moralfag sin taxes are being affected.
States need to pull as many fines and taxes out of their ass as they can, this isn't any different from speed-traps or red light cameras. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to know that governments don't give two flying shits about their peasants. Exploitative bad-faith taxation is legal theft.
You have to pick your battles sometimes, tobacco should probably be a low priority when you basically live in an authoritarian police state desu senpai
ps aromatic pipe tobacco out of a wooden pipe is the patrician's way to smoke
Austin Cox
>aromatic
faggot
Christopher Butler
not if you brush and take proper care of your mouth like a civilized first world person
Jayden Gray
>brush Not for me lad. No other animals scrape fluoride on their teeth with nylon bristles, and they all have perfectly straight white teeth.
Cooper Brown
>muh Appeal to nature >ignoring the fact that pets need dental care >ignoring the fact that tooth loss and infections are extremely common in the animal kingdom
Fluoride is unnecessary but brushing your teeth is, just get fluoride-free toothpaste if you can afford it.
Brayden Gonzalez
False. I used to dip, and loved it, but I was never so bold as to be in denial of the damage I was doing.
ITT: edgy teens and people with the minds of teens talking about a drug that kills people. Your original premise is wrong OP. There's a war on tobacco and nicotine because it's poison and it kills people in terrible ways. Those that have quit can even tell you about how unenjoyable tobacco is. Those that say they enjoy it are too blinded by their addiction to admit they don't actually like using. I cannot stress enough the importance of quitting and never using tobacco or nicotine again. Do it cold turkey, and don't be disheartened if you relapse, just keep trying and it will get easier every time. Only people that are suicidal or stupid smoke these days, there's nothing cool about it. Big Tobacco spent billions advertising tobacco in different ways to different markets, that's the only reason it's "cool" and the billions they've spent to bribe lobbyists is the reason tobacco isn't illegal. Seriously, I've never met a lifelong smoker that didn't regret it. Learn to hate tobacco, it'll make it easier to quit, and that'll be one of the best decisions of your life.
Robert Roberts
what about chewing?
Ryan Brown
I've got something right here to help you cope with your oral fixation cutie ;)
Landon Russell
I do enjoy a cigarette every now and again, but son... It is not good for you. You might feel cooler, but it is not doing anything really to help you other than maybe relaxing you a little bit. How old are you OP?
Tyler Gomez
If you want higher test do some cardio you stupid fuck.
If you're going to consider nicotine you should use a dry herb vaporizer, smoking it and expect to end healthier is beyond retarded.
Yes, I know most bad effects from 'tobacco' actually are from the poison the companies add, but still.
I mix tobacco and weed in a Backwoods before I work out. It helps me focus on my workout and has helped me progress immensely. My girlfriend even started working out with me again. I've also been feeling more confident and outgoing since I've started smoking habitually. My skin looks a lot healthier, I'm eating home cooked meals, and I'm only drinking water. This shit has really made me improve myself.
Elijah Morris
>I started smoking and 1 week later I was lifting in the gym for the first time in my life.
Top-notch evidence.
Joseph Lewis
faggot indeed, cant even fucking man up and go cold turkey.
Jose Morgan
Because cigarette is literal fucking poison. Your blood stream is filled with toxic chemicals and crap thats super fucking unhealthy for your cells, cardiovascular health and fucking overall everything. Stop being so stupid.
Owen Reed
This. Smoked for 9 years, destroyd the small hairs in lung that remove shit and impurities. Now have damaged lungs and oxygen doesnt absorb as good as it used to, aka feeling a bit like zombie. When i wake up im literally like a dead body because of lack of oxygen.
>smoked heavy for 9 years >didnt think it would do so much damage >it did
Allso the addiction, it was just fucking bs to not being able to concentrate on one thing for more than 15-30minutes without thinking about the next cigarette, or going for it. The fucking urge to smoke grows after every cigarette.
Addiction is literally an urge that is stronger than your ability to control it, it will control you in the end. And with cigarettes this is _always_ the case.
Connor Gomez
how bad does baccy stunt your growth? i only smoke a few times a fortnight
Tyler Perry
People (mainly kids) ITT who think smoking is cool/relaxing/social think again. Ive seen this ashtray daily for over 15 years of my life. Thank God I quit a long while ago, you get literally sick of coughing at night, having trouble working ouf, headaches and fatigue all the time... €6 a day wasted and smelling and feeling like shit all day every day
Smoking is for sub-humans
Dominic Gray
Socially smoking is one of the easiest way to approach and a goat opener. Just solicit and chat it up.
Jaxon Murphy
HAHAHAHA
Thou art art peasant, boy, and wilt surely never make it.
Oliver Moore
That's about 50% of their clientele. Go in and talk to the person working, they are paid to be an expert/they own the shop. I don't know shit about cigars and every shop I go someone helps the fuck out of me.
Kevin Howard
enjoy your fucking mouth ca cer fgt
Isaac Morales
smoke a pipe, you dont inhale the nasty shit but still get a nice relaxing buzz. the tobacco is of great quality and there are many different types so you can make a hobby out of it. pre packed cigarettes are completely degenerate tier.
John Price
At least it's not hippie bullshit like pipes
Caleb Mitchell
average german
Matthew Lopez
i also smoke pipe once a week. But i do inhale it after the tobaco starts smoldering wel.
James Miller
I use snus. Anyone who tells you nicotine doesn't help control weight is a liar.
Gavin Murphy
Thats a rare popo, stolen.
Asher Parker
>checking your own quads
John Myers
Snus is the swedish dip right? Where do you get it
Personally Im a big snuff fan. I grind my own, flavor it with oils, and snuff it. Hits you right in the fucking dome. Way cheaper than smoking because you're not burning 90% of the active constituents
Jayden Johnson
>ruining your heath just because it's the only way you can open a conversation
Pathetic.
Elijah Jenkins
Smoking less than 5 a day is statistically insignificant to health. Social smokers don't often stay social smokers but that's not to say the fumes of single smoke will tip you over.
Parker Jones
>trying to justify his addiction
You're all the same shit.
Isaac Jenkins
Looks like it gave you autism I'm sorry user.
Cameron Ramirez
Snus is the Nordic (steam?) Cured tobacco. Camel also makes a type of it, here in the US. Haven't been able to find any genuine swedish snus, but I live in KY, part of the land of American tobacco.
Blake Williams
I smoke like a motherfucker. Usually pack a day. I actually love smoking, but the fact that it is death on wheels is undeniable. Quitting sucks something horrible and produces irrational rage.
Don't chew. It's fucking foul and only retard white trash fucks with it.
Adam Cruz
I'm in North Carolina so we have our fair share of tobacco too
Gabriel Sanchez
most likely its not the tobacco. weed is a way different case than tobacco.
Asher Gonzalez
>Smoking less than 5 a day is statistically insignificant to health.
link. How would inhaling 5 rolls of pure cancer and chemicals be insignificant to your health? what the fuck is your iq, 10?
Jackson Green
>retard white trash >I smoke like a motherfucker. Usually pack a day.
jokes on you faggot
Charles Reyes
I wonder why Popo never took off.
Connor Cruz
Because it is overblown are even heavy smoker lungs are viable for transplant? Anti-smokers are as anti science as environmentalist.