Whats Veeky Forumss opinion on personal trainers?

whats Veeky Forumss opinion on personal trainers?

Totally unnecessary. Often harmful.

Not sure if they're all retarded or just baiting their clients into doing shitty programs/form so that they can keep working with them for longer

most of them are just salesmen and they really dont know what they are doing.

i saw a pt teaching someone to quarter squat and half bench and another one who was doing bent over rows with cat back.

Failed athletes and high school chads who thought being popular would mean they are successful in adult life.

shit. I'm trying one out since I'm new to lifting and don't want to get bad habits. is it harmful even if it's just the one time to get the basics down?

unless you are an athlete or actor, 99% of PTs will give you shit advice and even shittier routines to keep you coming back.
At my gym I had a "first session free" it did not leave a good impression
>said that 5/3/1 was made by eddie hall
>and that you only need to do stretches to fix APT, while claiming he specialised in posture,
>a different PT gave me the biggest meme routine, can even dig it up if you want

I have yet to see a personal trainer who actually looks good/doesn't do weird exercises that don't do shit

can confirm was baited into signing up for 3 starter sessions when joining a gym and cannot get out now

One PT taught me to deadlift in the smith machine. And told me squatting was bad for my knees so I should do leg presses instead. me being 15 and a skinny dyel listened to his advice for 3 weeks until my friend asked me wtf I was doing

dig that shit up

theres gotta be some that are good no way you could tell though i guess

> and cannot get out now

Because you're a pussy.

99.9% of them are trash, unless you have an actual real PERSONAL trainer that only works with you, and you pay him up front (or 50% and 50% after) and have very clear goals.

Useless for everyone but the very elite.

Chads are usually succesfull in life though (like in pic related).

I think you are thinking of Brad or Cody. the dudes that screwed around too much in school, forgot to put on a condom when banging some chick and now he has to take care of a baby, athletic skills werent good enoguh to get a university scholarship and now he has nowehere to go after high school such as

technical school or some dumb low paying job like personal training

goes to podunk university majoring in a bull shit majorand getting a shityjob afterwards

ends up homeless and a drug addict

or lives with his parents

whats the point of being a chad if you have to be successful in life just for some puss puss?

I have only met a few P.T.s and most of them were very basic and unneeded however one of them was exceptional at his job. He was a beefy 5'7 Manlet but he knows everything there is about fitness,

this, chads are succesfull attractive and nice

so you can procreate and have your genes spread

There

Day A (Chest/Shoulders)

Incline Press 5x3 (Dumbbell)
Dumbbell Flyes ~10x3
Dumbbell Row 5x3
Lateral Raise 5x3
Military Press 5x3

Day B (Biceps/Triceps)

Dumbbell Curls 5x3
Reverse Curls 5x3
Wrist Curl ~10x3
Dumbbell Extension 5x3
Pushdown 5x3

Day C (Legs/Abs)

Squat 5x3
Leg Extension 5-10x3
Calf Raise to failure x3
Leg Curls 5-10x3
Weighted Crunches 15-20x3

Day D (Back/Traps)

Seated Row/Low Row 5x3
Lateral Pulldown 5x3
Dumbbell Row 5-10x3
Shrugs 10-15x3

Day E (Break)

what happened to this cattos earos?

My gym has a couple of PTs that work alongside it, they run the classes and you can hire them for your own sessions if you want. When you sign up you get a few short complimentary sessions and I've paid for a few with one of them because not only is he a nice guy but I'm a slow learner and struggle to do new exercises unless I have someone show me how to do it in exacting detail - I tell him what I want to learn, he'll help me learn it and provide suggestions on top then I can run through an entire routine with coaching.

Knife-fight in 70s era NYC.

Lock in Contract Boi

waste of money. most just do machine circuits because that's the least likely way to get injured. the few that do free weights don't know good form at all. and they just do random shit every session that doesn't allow you to actually make progress, just enough to make a client feel sore or tired.

Personal trainer here.

This.

Anything we can tell you can be found online for free, just read the sticky, and get an honest gym buddy who would be willing to critique your form.
The bulk of the business are fat women who have no clue what so ever about fitness, and a lot of the role is trying to encourage them to actually stick to a fucking plan.
Most trainers will encourage clients to do stupid meme teir shit which can get them injured in order to make them stand out, otherwise all we'd be doing is telling people to squat and eat oats.

Also, sometimes it can relieve boredom, sometimes I like to watch a fatty suffer.

>told me squatting was bad for my knees so I should do leg presses instead

I showed a client videos of leg presses snapping knees when someone locked out, to encourage them to do compound lifts instead.

If a PT is teaching you to do anything you don't see serious lifting looking guys in the gym doing, then they are feeding you bullshit.

The choices of exercises arent that bad, its just the setsxreps that is retarded.

Sorry, I should have said douchebros, rather than chads.

Douchebros often become personal trainers because they have no other "skills"

When I was training to join the military I did shitloads of pushups at my gym, and this trainer always came over and said "you gotta do clapping pushups bro!" The military PT test doesn't give a shit about explosive clapping bs pushups, fuck off.

I've yet to meet one I'd recommend.

seems like being a chad in this day and age isnt really any better than just being an average guy you can only have one family

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what I didn't mention was that he said its fine for me to do alternating weeks, a strength week, and a split week, he un ironically said that that is to
>confuse the muscles™

>confuse the muscles
lul

Muscles are so smart, if they keep playing the same video game eventually they know all the buttons to press hahahahahaha right? Cause our muscles are so smart :)

I fell for the PT meme. I went to like 6 sessions and then I went to Veeky Forums.

That's a $200 I won't forget.

They are for lazy people who can't watch videos or read articles for themselves.

Canadafag here to explain a huge problem with PT's
Personal training isn't recognized and therefor not regulated by the government. Anybody can call themselves a PT- there is no minimum requirement or experience required to have this title. There's a program called CanFitPro that offers a "Personal training degree". It's a weekend-long 16 hour course that anybody can take. I have a CFT "degree" from ISSA and I've been lifting for about 6 years. I've had interviews at two gyms before and both stated their "base level" pt's were trained with CanFitPro- so some of these PT's they push on people for $80+/hr have basic-bitch lifting experience and a weekend course (Half of which is comprised on how to form plans, never mind how to actually teach people to lift).

PT's worth their charge are one in a thousand. I never recommend them to people because more often than not they're fucking retarded.

tl;dr You can get weekend certification. The title "PT" comes with zero guarantee of experience because the govt doesn't regulate it.

They are there to fulfill the same role a stylist does in a hair salon.
There is no reason women can't paint their nails at home, but no, they go get a manicure because they like people whispering encouragements and sweet things into their ears which makes them come back.

99% of the time you will see trainers at the gym working with women because they don't go there to get fit, they go to the gym for social contact. It only takes men a couple weeks to figure out trainers are full of bullhonkey

I'm working as a personal trainer but most of pt' s suck balls and know shit. Sad but true you don't need em at all

In my contract the PTs are actually included (60€/month). Watched one during my first day there and literally all he did was basic bodyweight training shit people can easily do themselves if they just used their brain for once.

Not worth it. I've had much more fun googling for exercises myself, or checking out some fitness YouTube channels.

They would be a blessing for 99% of the Veeky Forums user.

Is it frowned upon to teach people things that you yourself did when starting out?

I've always thought about being a PT and realized most people can tell if something is bullshit. So would telling clients how you do things be an okay thing especially if you're actually built for it?

ITT: fat basement dwellers cosplaying as personal trainers just to say that personal trainers are totally inept/innecessary

When writing up programs I work to what I would personally do to fix their weaknesses/work with their situation.
While I admit I will use stupid shit to keep them interested, or to amuse myself, that is a tiny minority of what I have them do and only during sessions. outside of that is what I believe to work.
Client retention is important, and results are the best way to get that. If you are going to get that with the basic beginner stuff, the same stuff you started with, then that's what you do.


Not unnecessary, just not really anything the average guy on here is going to benefit from sinking cash in to.
The advantage a (good) PT has over learning how to do things yourself, is that they already know the stuff you need to research, will be able to correct you as you train, and try to keep you motivated.
whether that service is justified is down to an individual, otherwise you're paying for something an evening researching and a lifting buddy would accomplish.

Nice grammar Pajeet

Paid friends for clueless idiots.

There are countless videos telling you how to do any lift. Cancel the pt, watch some videos, go to the gym with a friend, have him film you and watch the videos back home to check form.

I had one when I was starting out, he cut me a special deal because I was a student. He was a really cool guy but he tried to make do Isolation and not compounds when I was starting out because he believed they were better. He also tried to make me do bro splits

I have depression. I knew exercise would help me. I have a PT because I knew I wouldn't have the motivation otherwise. She helps me a lot physically and mentally. She worth every penny.