Redpill me on jelqing Veeky Forums. does it work? are gains permenant? best technique/schedule...

so just because I point out an inconsistency with user's argument then I "believe a meme"?

not an argument btw

C'mon guys there must be some truth to jelqing, there's thousands of people talking about their gains, every single one of them is a liar now? I have a hard time believing that

What is jelqing?

Source:misterpoll.

let me ask you something OP

imagine that there is a technique to dramatically (i.e. noticeably) increase the size of your muscles.* imagine also that this technique:

>is free of risk if performed properly*
>is possible to learn on one's own, i.e. without supervision of a doctor or physical therapist*
>costs nothing*
>requires no advanced technical knowledge or equipment*

Everything marked with an asterisk is a claim that weightlifters make.

Now, given all that criteria, what percentage of men do you think would be walking around with enormous muscles?

If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Playing devils advocate just makes you a kunt

>comparing apples to oranges
>nice b8 m8 r8 8/8

>putting stress on the muscles, blood vessels, and cartilaginous tissues of your limbs helps them grow bigger and stronger
>implying putting stress on the muscles, blood vessels, and cartilaginous tissues of your dick does nothing

hmm maybe you're just retarded man. if people can stretch their earlobes to 10x the original size you can definitely make your dick slightly bigger

>falling for size queen thots

Weightlifting requires equipment, costs money, carries risk of injury, and shouldn't be done without a clean bill of health from your doctor

>implying putting stress on the muscles, blood vessels, and cartilaginous tissues of your dick does nothing

>does nothing

Yeah it fucks up you dick m8, enjoy your broken dick

>squeezing and pulling my pee pee will make it grow

How small are we talking about OP?

>my pp could be a little bigger
NO, IT COULDN'T, you're just obsessing over shit that doesn't fucking matter.
>he thinks a big dick will solve all his problems
Great. You'll be boring, stupid, ugly, and weak with a big dick. So the fuck what?

STOP OBSESSING OVER YOUR DICKS, YOU RETARDED PRIMATES

Stop watching porn since it's ruining your confidence

It isn't dangerous at all if done correctly.

You're supposed to put a warm rag over your junk for a few minutes before, and use lube during the jelqing itself

I follow the JP90 routine. I've gained half an inch since I started last month. Keep in mind the newbie gains are just from improved blood flow to the area

>requires equipment
His post said "advanced technical knowledge or equipment." Any random heavy object, or if you want to be fancy a hunk of metal, hardly qualifies as advanced.

>costs money
Again, no it doesn't. You don't have to go to an expensive gym to lift heavy objects. By the same token, you can buy expensive "penis enhancement" equipment, or you can use your hand. You can buy expensive weightlifting equpment, you can do do bodyweight exercises.

>carries risk of injury

Moving the goalposts again. You said "if done properly." If done properly, weightlifting carries a very low risk of injury.

>shouldn't be done without a clean bill of health from your doctor

Now you're memeing. A normal person is not so sickly that exercise requires a doctor's approval

The truth is that you can't be a hypocrite. The body is the body and your dick isn't exempt from the same physiological processes that make weightlifting or exercise in general effective

*tips fedora*
fuck outta here virgin, everybody knows size matters

You are going to have to invest heavily to find out. Time/effort mostly.

There is a risk that you will literally destroy your erections, I awared an user on this board about it, it was a few months ago, I think. Unfortunately, it was too late, the place he went for his routine did not have a topic/article warning people who have a preexisting issue (that they are probably not aware of) to STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM JELQING.

Also, the bigger your dick is to begin with, the moar (and faster) gains you can expect. So basically, those that need it the least get the most out of it while the ones who need it most will wrangle their dick into a mess for an extra centimeter.

Personally, I could never stick it out, it takes a lot of discipline. I was fucking my gf back then, and it was throwing me off. You need to live alone, you need to not fuck or only fuck when it fits your routine and you need to take it slowly at first and realistically asses your results after 12-18 months.

It can be too much. I found it easier to lift 5-6 days a week for 60-90 minutes and put extra time in food preparation than to tug on my dick for 20-30 minutes every other day.
Anyone using Bathmate regularly for a longer period? I don't care if the gains are temporary, how are the girth gains, if any?

Size matters but size isnt everything

Seriously, Veeky Forums is so ignorant when it comes to jelqing, and you get everybody lying every time this comes up saying it will break your dick. Jelqing works, does not break your dick, you won't have any injury if you do not go too rough. Scientific studies have also been done on penis extenders, and they work with a lot of use (about 1,000 hours of wearing them for 0.7-1.0 inch in growth, length only with these).

Start with the JP90 newbie routine, seen here -

pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/2166-jps-90-day-beginner-routine.html

Bathmates most definitely work for temporary gains, but the jury is still out if they work for permanent ones. Apparently, you have to use it for a year plus on a semi-regular basis for permanent gains.

>warmup rag, JP90

This user knows what's going on.

Prob. 110 F degrees where this quartet lives.

>they're all wearing thick dungarees.

As long as youre six inches or above with some decent girth, you are fine and dont need to worry

compensate by having a good body, hygeine, good at sex, funny etc

bitches are retarded and their brains see big dick if they like the guy. Ive had bitches convinced my dick was 8 inches when its actually 6.5

>women
>estimating numbers
>dealing with numbers at all
>not being fucking retarded

pick one

You sure about that? I started with a big girth and always had trouble gaining. I was under the impression if you had a bigger girth it was harder. Still gained about 0.5 inch in length in a year, though.

But you're right, it's a pain in the ass, takes a lot of time, and it's why I stopped doing PE. Just recently got a cheap extender off aliexpress, though, and they work. I just broke it the other day because it was a shitty, 10-dollar one, but the principle is solid and proven. I work at home on the PC (yeah, alone), so I'm thinking to myself, "Why the hell not make my dick bigger when I'm just sitting here typing?"

Honestly, I just want a little bit extra in length to more easily hit the A-spot - hitting than in women drives them wild and me as well. Such a turn on to be hitting that deep inside her, making her cum and claw your back.

About the bathmate, I had one for a while. It gives you temporary gains in girth most definitely. I would usually get 0.5-0.75 inch in a temp girth boost for a few hours, some say more. I didn't notice any permanent gains from it, but some say it takes a lot longer - I stopped using it after a few months.

This is also true, but PE does work if anons are desperate enough.

Tfw I'm Good looking man with above average pernis :^)

>muscles of your dick
Did you fail grade 10 biology fag?

In terms of gains, yeah, that's what the consensus was back when I was researching it. The guys getting the best results, showing of their progress and making "wow, this really works" topics were also the ones who were pretty big to begin with.

Live alone, work from home, that's the recipe. Stick it out this time, if you're not having issues. Like the guys who did it for years always say "it's a marathon, not a sprint". I missed my chance and now I don't know if I'll get a new one, or when.

I'm around 6.5", bumping at my ex's cervix and she's wasn't even petite. When it comes to girth, not a pencildick, but not a beercan either so that's why I'm asking about Bathmate. I think you're better off starting with a better girth and working on length. Girth gains supposedly come harder, not to mention that you need to work on it with a stronger erection than regular jelqs, my arms would actually get too tired if I tried doing the routine shortly after gym, so even a short term 0.5-0.75 girth boost sounds pretty damn neat. Ideally, if I wanted permanent gains, I probably woulnd't even want to go higher than that.

I do wonder if lenght gains are actually more common because of how every routine has streches in addition to jelqing which is kind of a strech to begin with. And then using extenders for hours on top of that.

There are 26 dollar bathmates off Aliexpress that are apparently just as good, or quite close, if you don't want to spend all that money on the real ones. The design principle is simple, so the cloning of them is easy. I got this one - aliexpress.com/item/X30-Beauty-Health-Sex-Products-Pumps-Enlargers/32795831584.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Na3ojt - picture is what the seller mailed me when I asked what they looked like.

I had thrown out my old real one a while ago, but decided to try this when I bought the extender there. It's still in route so I can't personally say it's the same thing, but a few on the PE boards say it's the same. You've got to cut your pubes down real low to get a good suction, by the way, otherwise it will slip off.

Thanks for the encouragement! Good luck to you, too.

Jelquing is bush league. There are PE techniques that work though.

Hanging definitely works. It stretches the ligaments around the penis. Penis extending surgery works in the same way.

There are several things that work for girth, Jelquing is one of them. You won't lose any sensitivity, that's ridiculous your not doing nerve damage. Pumps probably don't work, or they're not as effective as techniques that increase pressure internally (Jelq, Ulis, Clamping)

>rationalwiki.org/wiki/Penis_enlargement

Looks good.
I'm still using the older model Hercules for a pre-bang pump.
Have I had permanant gains? Yes. 2cm thicker, maybe 1cm longer.
But that's it.

Now I'm 16cm long by 14cm thick (average of three girth measurements from base, mid, and just under head).

Those girth increases are from solo using a bathmate or with other PE as well? And how long did it take?

>Repeatedly stretching the pore cells in a live sponge will cause it's absorption pores to expand and heal in this expanded state to adapt to the minute tearing of the cellular walls of the pores, thereby making the pore cells larger and more capable of absorbing more water and nutrients.

>The corpora cavernosa is a live tissue which responds similarly in the manner of a sponge (Martini, 1998); therefore, continuous stretching and healing should cause the distensible blood spaces to increase their ability to absorb more blood, as a sponge does with water, and thereby increase actual size of the erectile tissue.

See how far you get with "lol, let's pick up heavy rocks and shit".

The average person who tries that will end up hurt with no gains.

Also even apparently healthy individuals can have underlying issues that make lifting a bad idea. Getting a physical first is good.

Bathmate only.
About three months, every other day OR two days on one day off. Again, it depending on whether I'm getting any that night.
And for only 10-12 or at most 15 minutes per pump.

>CAVEAT
I went in with a 70% boner, a good seal, and AFTER washing and soaping up down there so everything is warm and just relaxed and hanging out.

I HAVE TRIED WHEN COLD OR NOT EVEN A SEMI

Pointless. Fun, does give temporary fat (and cold) bloated looking dick, but more dangerous (cumming blood for the first time nearly sent me in to a panic attack).

Forgot picture.

>what is any construction laborer?

Thanks, mate. And you haven't used it in a while so know it's permanent?

Never had that bloody cum when I used it in the past, and I'd go in erect as well - that sounds really bad.

Well, fuck. You had me going from "yep, I'm getting that" to "fuck no, not worth it".

>Thanks, mate. And you haven't used it in a while so know it's permanent?

I've used less frequently. Like maybe once or twice a week. I've gone about three weeks without and it's remained the same.
I think some dudes expect like 4 or 5cm differences to be permanent. For my efforts + genetics, that's not the case.

>Never had that bloody cum when I used it in the past, and I'd go in erect as well - that sounds really bad.

I was putting too much pressure on the top of my nut sack where it connects to the shaft.
It was light brown, so old superficial blood streaks in the semen. I'm okay now, but wholly shit I took two months off then actually listened to the advice to build up rather than just #yolo it.

fpbp

Dick size is only meaningless if your between 4.5- 7.5 inches. Any less becomes laughable and any more becomes too painful unless you have a loose pussy to begin with. I would walk oiut on either. But then again i think small dick guys dont bother with girls like me, smallest ive seen is still like 5.5 at least. Side note some women have small short vaginas and might prefer something closer to a micropenis

>smallest I've seen is 5.5

5.5 is the average, which would be more proof women can't tell with their eyes. Anyways, the main point of your comment makes sense.

2cm thicker and 1cm longer are still super good gains for a device you put on during a shower or an after workout soak with epson salts.

What pic got deleted?

>that img
>have 9.5inch dick
>current girlfriend will only have sex with me once every couple weeks because it hurts her
>past girlfriends have been the same
Yeah so much for those fucking bullshit stats OP.
>citation needed on everything

holy shit this chart is incredibly confusing

Well, obviously, that's too big unless you are dealing with size queens. The chart probably refers to girls who've mostly encountered 5.5"-6.5" and fondly remember 7"-7.5" former lovers who had girth to match. It might not seem like a big jump but the volume difference is quite significant. It fills them up.

Going 9.5" just sounds unfeasible.

calm down, big isn't 20 feet and small isn't 1 cm. truth is big and small is just a couple of inches of difference.

these fucking threads always ruin my mood, i strongly believe women lust for huge cawks no matter how much they refuse that

>9 inches of length still in the very satisfying range
This is what they call "girl inches".

They do. If only to have that experience so they can gossip about it.

But it's a quality you can find in males. If you collect more of those, you're worth more. Like dating a handsome man. Or a rich man. It raises their value.

Obviously, it feels better for most of them. To a degree, their vaginas can stretch to accommodate a bigger penis, both short and long term, and then they are left with mostly just the positives. Also, there's the "big stronk man dominating me with his hooge pen0r" thing. You just don't get that with an average dick. Bitches don't want average anything. It means to them they are not worth enough.

When you put physiological and psychological together, yeah, bigger is better, and for most girls, that's 8" x 6", easily.

I wish I took the blue pill now

>Dick size is only meaningless if your between 4.5- 7.5 inches.
I really hope this is true

If there was a sure fire way to cook up a larger penis at home we'd all know about it and have massive dongs.

Most of them are either wiry little dudes or fat dudes with beer guts.

Know the feel, but it's better to know the truth than live in a lie.

You feel powerless, unable to change your predicament. Guess that's what manlets experience every day.

And I'm not even small, probably on the high spectrum of average in both length and girth anywhere except Nigeria. But here I am, having tried PE in the past, thinking about when I can have a go again in the future and what new tools to use, thus risking a fully functioning, decently sized penis for maybe an extra half an inch in length and girth, reading about other guys' experiences and their efforts and all for what? So some slags will deem us worthy of their golden vajayjay, never mind the fact there isn't a dick big enough in the world that can, in the long run, fill the hungry, gaping holes in their souls.

But hey, that's the game. Get to pumping or go mgtow, I guess.

yo this guy is going on /r/cringe lmao

Nothing he said was wrong. It's the brutal truth.

Do kegels instead.

he sounds like a faggot tho.

Damn. Thanks guys.

Nah, you're framing it like women are constantly regretting the fact that they're with an average-cocked dude, like it's their entire world or something, never mind your weird outlook on "collecting".

It's like, the love of your life, who you have great chemistry with is also a 5-7/10. Would you rather her be a 10/10? Sure, it'd be nice, but it's nothing more than a passing hypothetical. It's the same with dick size, sure it's nice (within reason, monstercocks need not apply), but it's the least important thing when it comes to satisfying sex - assuming you don't have a micropenis lel.

I've used a bathmate semi-consistently for 4 months with no issues and I have experienced gains. Nothing earth shattering, maybe .25 of an inch but even that was noticeable and you can *feel* the difference too. I wouldn't stress over it being permanent or not. Most body gains require you to work out indefinitely in order for you to keep them, cock is no different.

TL;DR ANYTHING regarding body improvement require a permanent and consistent work ethic.

>being tall isn't actually that good
>I have this one friend who's 5'5'' and he's had a gf
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

they should have asked how many abortions/diseases each woman has

My masturbation technique from age 14 onwards is similar to a jelqing, where I grab the shaft firmly and slide it up and down.

Before that, I was grabbing it very lightly and allowing the friction between my hand and penis to provide sensation.

I am Asian and 7" long. I do think that my technique attributed to it. I might be 5" or less if I used the friction technique.

>Nah, you're framing it like women are constantly regretting the fact that they're with an average-cocked dude, like it's their entire world or something, never mind your weird outlook on "collecting".

Nope, I don't honestly think that it's their entire world, it's just the one thing we are talking about specifically in this topic. Their entire world is acquiring ever higher social status through sexual partnership with men. For sloots in their twenties, it's about fucking handsome guys with big dicks. As many and as often as possible. Traveling and what not. They are young and they want experiences.
In their thirties they will be looking for a guy who has a stable job, wants children and has a home they can move into.
Either of those wants is present at both ages, but they are weighted differently.

And women are constantly regretting the fact they are with an average-anything dude. Why do you think Twilight and 50 shades of Grey are so popular?

It might be a passing hypothetical for you, but they are constantly reassessing the "deal" they have. There is never good enough, only good enough for now. Dicks are just a part of that equation, and I agree, might not even a major one.

>A fucking med student who hasn't even begun studying urology is somehow an authority
L M A O
Even thinks jelqing and pumping is based on the same principles as weightlifting, so basically his argument is that the tissue won't grow because it isn't a muscle. Absolutely retarded.

How is that not different for men tho? We are also constantly trying to find a younger and hotter woman too, with bigger tits and wetter vaginas. However, if we get a 7/10 that might be "good enough for now". You kinda sound like you're projecting. Instead of being upset over the "game" women play, why don't you try to get better at the game.

We're moving away heavily from the topic, but whatever.

Depends on what you mean by the "game". I find the thought of playing emotional games with the person you are supposed to be closest with quite detestable. It is tiring. As a man, you can put that mental effort into something more productive and satisfying.

If we're talking purely sexual attraction "game", that's not a problem, I do not have a fedora lord mindset. I lift to look better, to be healthier and look healthier, I try to eat clean etc. Hell, it's a topic about dick enlargement, you came in because you know it matters to the oposite sex and you're curious/knowledgable about it or because you're 5" erect and some bitch sold you the "motion of the ocean" bullshit and you are hopelessly trying to validate it among predominantly male peers.

I don't know what I'm projecting, though. My original point is that if we are talking about dicks specifically - women prefer bigger ones. They feel better in their pussy, throat and ass and they feel better in their minds because they snagged a top 20% man, when it comes to dick size at least.

So yeah, again - pump iron, pump your dingus, pump your wallet. So you could be the next in line to pump some slut. Maybe I'm just tired of it. Sorry if my angry rant(s) upset you.

For the most part, we agree. I just don't think the world is as rosy as you might want it to be. People play games, men and women. Yes, my dick is average to above average and I investigate any claim that says I can improve my cock the same as any claim that I can improve my physique. If I have to pump iron, my cock and my wallet to pump a women then I'll do that to stay in the game. Women have to do the same tho. They have to get bigger breast, do squats for nicer asses, ect...At the end of the day we all want something. You give and you get. You might run into a girl that gives you all of that without compromise, but you would be doing just that; running into her by chance. In the meanwhile, you have to do what you have to to get what you need.

If you really think there is no differencec in women's minds (and vaginas) between a dude with a 5 inch dick and a 7 inch dick, let alone being thicker/thinner than you're clearly a dicklet in denial. Yes the guy with the smaller dick could still manage to be better in bed, but other things being equal girls would chose the bigger one 9/10 times.

7"x6" masterracce feelsgoodman.

I mean, literally all of the peer review save, iirc, 1 study, done specifically on one product in europe a few years back, found PE of ALL types causes more harm than good.

I dare you to call up any real urologist and ask them what they think. They will tell you it's junk.

Anecdotally, I know it's junk because I did it for years and saw zero results. Just soreness. Followed all of the best practices. Tried a few products out. I could get up to .5" gains but they were temporary and vanished after some weeks of not doing any PE. As in, I'd do PE for 3 years straight, gain .5" in the first weeks, then no more, but as soon as I stopped, even that .5" would go away.

Why do you think every PE forum has partnerships with extenders and similar products like bathmate? They get a kickback every time an idiot pays $400 for shit that doesn't work.

Those sites are all just elaborate PE spam ads like you see on the sidebar of a porn site.

>Worrying about your penis size when your dick is bigger than 50% of the population
>Worry about penis size when you get endless benefits of being a man as opposed to a woman in modern society
Like bitching your chocolate milkshake doesnt have chocolate shavings on top.

Agreed, it's just a bleak outlook.
Never ending arms race in an everlasting reproductive war. Emotional attachment is a vulnerability to be exploited and loyalty beyond an immediate personal benefit is an illusion.

Makes me want to vent, I guess.

Size matters, bathmate/jelqing works. Give it a try for a solid year. In paralel, fuck as best babes as possible. Clear enough?

That's the thing tho. Niggas don't want to put in the work. Yeah, the gains will prolly be in the half inch territory, but it's half an inch you aint got now.

jelqing does work

losing bodyfat does work

went from 5" to 7.5

also try horny goat weed for more size

don't listen to these fucking dicklets lmao

you have to work at it and expect it to take TIME

this took me 2 years

with good practice expect .5 inches every 6 months or so until you tap out your natty limit

also you will get small micro tears your penis and it hurts like a bitch but to hear pleasure you must endure the pain

its why a baby crys when it's born

>jelqing

fucking morons

How do you even do it?

Once you get a girl in bed, you're basically fine even if you have a small dick. You might not get another night with em, but they're already determined to see it through at that point.

Source: girls who've fucked white bois and hispanics before me

Ive used a bathmate since january several times a week and i've gained .5 inch in girth and nothing in length so take that for what you will.

I've NEVER seen any before/after pics for jelqing

>he doesn't know about the pc muscle

I know how kegels works, but how do reverse kegels works?
Is it the feeling of pushing out a shit?

Just sign up on the thunder's place and pe gym forums. Hundreds if not thousands of users have uploaded before and after pics.

>is it the feeling of pushing out a shit

Bingo.

Not even gonna read the thread because I'm willing to be it's retarded. So here you go OP:
>Jelquing makes your dick bigger by creating scar tissue
>That tissue is the extra size on your dick
>This is really bad, because the more scar tissue the less your dick works
>Hell, even a tiny amount it already breaking your dick
>The reason your lower regions are so sensitive to pain is because your body is literally hard wired to prevent any scar tissue down there
>You body has a function specifically to prevent what jelqing causes