What spurred the development of far right groups in the United States?

What spurred the development of far right groups in the United States?

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the far right is often shaped by the left

they're called reactionaries for a reason

It’s debatable. I would argue that pre-2010 the American right was completely uninterested in philosophy outside some extreme fringe groups associated with white nationalism. The first person that i’m aware of to do a full deconstruction of the America’s left, while not relying on identity politics himself, was Curtis Yarvin from 2007-2014. So many of the analogies and criticisms that he wrote did not exist prior (at least to my knowledge) but are now some of the most popular methods of critique employed by the right.

Before Yarvin, the right lacked a clear understanding of where left wing beliefs came from and where history was headed. Back then the best criticism that they could offer was that the left employed double standards wich embraced universalist ideas but derided conservatism as evil. The right never pushed past this critique because still believed in equality, democracy, and unification.

>pre-2010 the American right was completely uninterested in philosophy
stopped reading there.

Maybe that was hyperbole, there were many on the right with an understanding of philosophy, but the foundation from which they based their thinking was subordinate to left wing narratives. That is no longer the case.

cringe

The far left propped itself up with ethnic votes to push forward an agenda that most people didn't seem to really want that much and paid off media outlets. Some members of the right went more to the center while some members of the center went to the right as a reaction against the left. Alongside this, the Americanization of extreme beliefs resulted in more tolerant versions of previous extreme European movements that tried to mesh with existing traditionalist and reactionary movements within the USA. The result is 'Nazis' that rather than express German Supremacy are aiming towards a somewhat pan-European direction, but not particularly agreeing on much more than that and a somewhat shared desire for less non-Europeans in their Communities, Cities, and Countries.

The yearning for the return of sweet æsthetics that come with smoking a pipe

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He looks like Bob Dobbs

>The far right created America.
you tried

Every single post in this thread is utter shit.

Rockwell is a strange case. How does a smart guy, commander in the navy abandon everything to become a Nazi?
He even admits in his book that his work is mostly cleaning up broken people
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>far right created America
What? Classical liberalism was the ideology behind America.

Seeing the hoplesness of the american project

>He even admits in his book that his work is mostly cleaning up broken people
Well, broken people make up a decent portion of the Nazi's.

That posts was a good couple of standard deviations above Reddit

The FBI and ATF needed some more manhours on the payroll so they created some front groups and filled them with agents. Great place to network if you're in law enforcement I imagine.

Even though our country was born out of violent and sudden change, there will always be those who wish to stand in the way of progress. They will cite examples of the glorious past and this past will always be venerated by those who have little in the way of social responsibility or who are thralls religious tradition. Those with intransigent views are the easiest to manipulate by default and politicians will always be eager for such opportunities.

Goldwater + the Texas oil crowd were the closest to "far right" in mainstream politics, spawned by reaction to New Deal/Great Society policy implementation.

Now there is no "far right" to speak of. Only LARPers. On the "right" Goldwater's Movement Conservatism (personified by Ronnie) died with the Bush network + NeoCon + Weekly Standard faction's defeat. Somehow Limbaugh read the tea leaves and pimped Trump but Limbaugh is fighting a rearguard action at this point, trying to graft the Chamber of Commerce crowd to Trump and salvage some form of institutional cohesion. It's a mess; basically the worst case outcome of the election is materializing and the only hope left is some back swan own goal by the dems.
but that's not history. but the first line IS history and is the answer you need.

>Goldwater + the Texas oil crowd were the closest to "far right" in mainstream politics, spawned by reaction to New Deal/Great Society policy implementation.
This is the simplest answer, or even further the magnates that opposed Teddy's trust-busting a few years previous.

If you're talking about 'western democracy', you can trace it back to Cato the Elder or numerous other examples. It's the same modus operandi, just a different time and place.

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Rockwell was a fucking visionary, he was talking about the destruction of white America when the country was still 90% white and calling out the long march thru the institutions when it was still time to fight it.

Conservatism Inc. is not fully dead, they are gathering a new base in the form of leftist muh #Resist types. It's so surreal seeing liberals suck the dick of literal neocons on social media.

Jews taking over and seeing the society start to decline.

>I want queer black transsexual communism and an inversion of every value and facet of social structure
>"no"
>the far right is on the rise
Truly, the ideas of the left are so self-evident, and their perpetual state of being offended is so desirable that only genocidal whiter supremacists could be opposed to it.

As a National Socialist, that's not too far off, and certainly more accurate and less butthurt than any other response I've seen, ITT.

>As a National Socialist

This.

Oh, see. Right on time, just can't keep it in his pants. Has to express his offense.

>as a liberalist
>as a Marxist

The point being that, this is actually what most of us want, and are united by. Which is why we've been steamrolling the left, as they basically go to pieces at the slightest ideological disagreement, whereas we're gleefully accepting the "well, I think freedom of speech is important" dudebros that get pushed off the fence by butthhurt leftists, calling them Nazis (when they're libertarian stoners or something), and into our waiting arms.

Honestly the "right", as it exists today, would evaporate in a couple of years, if we just scaled back to the 90's. No forced gender/race placements in media or groups, no attempts to censor speech (yes, National Socialists and fascists actually fighting the left to preserve free speech), reals>feels, no replacement immigration, but that's mostly impossible, because muh neoliberalism, so even scaling back to let off steam would probably crash the house of cards. Instead, we see a doubling down by the PtB, in spite of angry reaction and the rise of European nationalism and racial identity.

It was just easy bait famalam

>hahah the left are so retarded, they think anyone who disagrees with them are genocidal nazies.
>OMG YOU DONT LIKE NATIONAL SOCIALISM!?!?! WTF YOU COMMIE LIBTARD!!!

This is a different guy, btw.

>yes, National Socialists and fascists actually fighting the left to preserve free speech
Their own free speech, not free speech in principle. They are only using the principle as a tool, not upholding it for everyone. They think dissenting opinions are suppressing free speech.

Sure, "classical libéralisme" for Europeans

Bumo

Recently, it's because you have a whole generation of disaffected youth and they're searching for answers. Far right politics gives easy (ultimately wrong, but satisfying at the moment) answers.

>that rather than express German Supremacy are aiming towards a somewhat pan-European direction
But that's actually false. They might not do so in public, and they certainly mix some American stuff into it, but here on Veeky Forums where they are anonymous overwhelming majority of them are German equivalent of weebs. Conditionally of course, because most of them don't know shit about Germans and German culture outside of Nazism.

Wrong how?

>Malcolm X gets killed by a NOI nog
>Rockwell gets killed by an ex-Nazi

gee the CIA was feeling poetic in the 60's

>The far left propped itself up with ethnic votes to push forward an agenda that most people didn't seem to really want that much and paid off media outlets.
What far left? How can anyone still claim there is any semblance of a far left after two Red Scare?

The "far right" are nothing more than honest people reasonably defending themselves against the attacks of Satan.

>far right
There is no far right. It's just that the left moved so far left, that it seems to be further away, the right that is. What was once considered normal America,is now seen as Nazi America by the bizzarro world advocates. We haven't changed you have.

Reagan supported gun control lol

What's the source for "69 mass shootings"?

>It's just that the left moved so far left, that it seems to be further away, the right that is.
Are there American that genuinely believe this?

We call them hillbillies, not american, thanks

>?
Sorry, I'm not going to do any breast feeding today, maybe your mom can help you.

Reagan was a gun owner/shooter. And I'd imagine, given histories events, he might be a bit leery of certain folks having possession of firearms, as am I. Owning a gun is a great responsibility, and one that your average leftist/ psych patient is incapable of undertaking.

Fair enough, although to be fair compared to Trump, 69 is pretty small for Obama. Roughly 130 mass shootings have occurred since Trump's inauguration.

you make it sound as if some fantasy. Fact is, the amount of blue hair dye, being flushed into our drinking water, gives evidence, to the downward trajectory this nation is in.

Yeah i know right you saw that one time they tried to block a speaker from going on a collage campus or when they attacked people for wearing a hat or maybe that time they suspended social media accounts because they seemed "problematic".

I'd wager I live in a larger city than you, albeit not a left leaning cesspool of crime and degeneracy.

>Implying the far left doesn't do the same.

The foresight that the United States was obviously degenerating.

Every group seeking to stop them was nothing more than a subversive pawn to maximize the implosion of the country.

It's always fun when liberals drop their facade of pretending to care about the disenfranchised working class.

Compared to the growing number of fat closet homosexual conservatives? Duck outta here with your meme logic faggot.

They exist to destroy the country, for example they love China despite it doing all the things they accuse their political opponents of doing.

I'm not suggesting Obama had anything to do with these mass shootings during his term, just pointing out a cultural shift, a liberalwards shift, that makes this country look but a shadow of what it once was. Actually since the crack epidemic waned, murders/shootings have declined, but these over-medded, single parented, directionless, needy sorts, have increased to no end.

So im a hillbilly for not wanting my guns taken away, not supporting the alphabet soup community, not wanting to be ethnically replace so career politicians could stay in power while getting a "generous donation" for providing cheap labour for corporations, allowing them to outsource jobs and lowering taxes for them. While being called a Nazi for being against illegal immigration.

>phone posters

There's a reason you've never seen them in the same room at the same time.

Blue hair detected. How's that tattoo working out for you? You really should seek medical help before it gats any more infected.

All I wanted was the source for that number of mass shootings, can't just take unsourced pictures for granted, you know.

Oh, they absolutely do. Tankies, academic feminists, etc. all do that shit. They just have a smaller pool to draw from for various reasons, even if rightist groups like to magnify their importance (and, to be fair, tumblr et. al. magnify the importance of far right groups). You can't really get a good sense of reality from the internet anyway, you have to go out and talk to people.

>they just have a smaller pool to draw from
Re-fucking-tarded.

Are you really that impotent? You have a means right before you, to research anything you wish. My methods were: to find a reliable source of mass shootings from 1981-through end of 2016201. Manually count the mass shootings within Reagans two terms, then Manually count the mass shootings during Obamas two terms. Then to scour the internet for the appropriate images that would ideally reflect this massive upsurge. I then went into paint and conjoined images, and over laid statistics. Then voila! You seem shocked about this statistic. I was too.

A second-rate public school system.

Well I checked the statistics and I have come to the conclusion that it's less than 50 mass shootings during Obama's presidency if we're going by "3 or more dead".
>Using Mother Jones‘ database of “US Mass Shootings, 1982-2016” shows that 31 mass shootings took place in the United States during the seven-year span from the start of President Obama’s first term to the end of 2015.
And if you count 2016 then it's 37. Now mind you provide your methodology?

Source by the way
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Yes.
Consider the right-left dialectic and how the right has evolved.
The mainstream conservative of tday would have been deemed a lefty before 1964. Past that point, they would be conservative.
Modern American conservatism is the liberalism of yesteryear.

This is true. I don't like that faggot Milo, but he was an unironic homo slurping nigger semen while railing against identity politics and promoting classical liberalism/neocon shit and he got called a "nazi". This is how far to the left these soy creatures are.
I'm also not a 20 year old faggot so I remember the previous decade when Bush was equated to Hitler and liberals were screeching about how he wants to put all muslims in extermination camps. I can't take leftists seriously, literally anything right of Trotsky is fascism to them.

If in the year 1960 you advocated for open boarders and the right for Billy to castrate himself and change his name to Betty, you would not be elected to chairmen of waste management, let alone a office of actual relevancy.

Bump

>conservicucks didn't call obama hitler anti-christ incarnate
I'm pretty sure you're under 20 and 2016 is the first election you were cognizant of.

>Their own free speech, not free speech in principle. They are only using the principle as a tool, not upholding it for everyone.

Funny, that's EXACTLY what the revolutionary left did to gain foothold.

Not him but you have a point, I've sort of stopped calling them the Far Left and just started calling them Progressives since most of them seem to call their agenda the "Progressive Agenda"

Whether their agenda is actually Progressive, its up for debate

I’d say the traditional right (open racism and all) died with Dick’s resignation. After that, R’s have worried too much about image, and have been malleable on social issues (while being too rigid on economic ones).

>R’s
Rs

>rising economic inequality and the failure of mainstream parties to provide effective solutions
>Increased multiculturalism
>Rent seeking behavior by ethnic minorities aligned with the left for ethnocentric reasons rather than any real commitment to liberal principles
>Reaction to a rising radical left

Ironically, a lot of these problems can fixed with an actual left unafraid to step on the toes of the rich, rather than the current """left""" who are just neoliberals who prefer their oligarchs to be black women.

Nope, Nixon was an anti-white cuck who disavowed Rockwell (despite being aware of the jew like him), while /ourguy/ JFK openly praised Hitler.

I was born in the early 80s.

fear.

America has been "far right" since its foundation. The Revolutionary War is the only correct answer.

Sheet

People are jerks and like easy answers.

>people didn't seem to really want that much
>paid off media outlets
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as the media and social media make find politics in all things both sides entrench further in their beliefs. or something like that.

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I'm pretty behind you on this. The job market is absolutely brutal right now, and the housing markets are getting worse in a lot of cities that were affordable a generation ago. Kids fresh out of school can't find jobs and can't even fathom owning a home in the city they grew up in. Not a good mix to keep people level-headed politically.

>ultimately wrong

The replacement of whites in their native nations is a real phenomenon, and the media and elite don't even hide it anymore. Also, Jewish nepotism is a FACT, not some whimsical theory. Stop watching the mainstream media and actually investigate these issues.

>replacement

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DA JOOS IN DA MAINSTREAM METEOR ARE THE REASON GIRLS DATE MOHAMMAD INSTEAD OF ME
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Liberals are trash. Evangelical conservatives aren’t perfect but they’re miles better than the people who sneer at them. They just need to STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL.

Presuming this is true, kill yourself

Don’t even countersignal hillbillies. They didn’t get you into this mess and they don’t have power over you. Smug liberal faggots are servants of power though and they need to be bullied to an assisted suicide

Hm who does this remind me of