Golden era body building... Who had the best physique?

Arnold is unquestionably the king

EASILY Steve Reeves. Arnold and Frank look good to but their legs are too small imo

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Big legs that overpower the upper body are not aesthetic. If you ask any woman who would she prefer Tom Platz or Frank Zane they'll all answer Frank.

Anyway, a truly underrated physique is Big Lou's.

That's because tom platz's legs are fucking MASSIVE. And I agree big legs are not aesthetic but that only if they are extremely large. Small legs are way better than extremely large one

Okay, but Arnold had objectively bigger legs than Steve.

Also women will most likely choose big legs that are balanced with the physique over someone with legs that are small.

It seems that way but they weren't really balanced with his physique since his upper body was extremely large while Reeve's was on the smaller and slimmer side. But I gotta give props to arnie for fixing those legs

Arnold wasn't one of those people, however.

Arnold purposefully kept his legs from growing too much. These aren't chicken legs, though.

Since no ones mentioned him yet im gunna throw franco out there

Franco would have been better than Arnold or Frank Zane if he wasn't 5'5.

luther igno

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Jesus man, Arnold's lats go all the way to his glutes

Serge Nubret is the correct answer

Serge, hell yeah

Is it true thst after coming second to Arnold so many times, did Serge decide to quit the same year as Arnold because he didn't want to just be handed the Olympia, he wanted to take it from Arnold? It's a bit of a coincidence otherwise.

nope, serge quit because he came to south africa about ten pounds heavier a week before the contest and was told he couldn't compete(for bullshit reasons). he decided to stay and watch the show anyway and didn't bother training or watching his diet in the run up to the show, only to be told a day or two before that he could compete again. I don't think he would have won had this not happened, Arnold was still a better poser and a more complete bodybuilder, but it was obviously fraudulent enough for him to quit the IFBB. pic is what serge looked like before they told him not to compete.

He truly does look in this picture like the Overman ideal of Fascist philosophy. I would say he came pretty close to reaching Übermensch status. Too bad he then went to Hollywood and went full retard mentally.

Is he a fucking eunuch or something? Completely flat there

But becoming a movie star and later a successful politician just makes him more of a an UBERMENSCH. The guy is the GOAT immigrant story.

I mean, if he was over the weight limit then how is it a bullshit reason that he wasn't allowed to compete in the same weight class as Arnie?

I disagree, because he did several things an übermensch would not do. Such as having a bastard child with a hideous Mexican troll creature. Or befriending rich and corrupt Jews in order to get favors from them in the movie industry. Or being anti-Trump during his campaign. These are all pretty bitch tier behavior.

serge arms are the best i've ever seen in my life, it overpowers everyone elses arms so easily

>using a picture of 1980 arnold

Isn't the concept of Ubermensch more a philosophical thing? Something to the effect of building and adhering to your own morality? I don't really into Nietzche.

Depends whose ideal of the Übermensch you believe in. Nietzsche's was "You are an overman if at your death bed you were asked would you change anything in your past, and you wouldn't, because you regret nothing". In other words, having led a life of perfect choices and not regretting a single thing is what determines an overman.
Fascist philosophers expanded upon that though, to include achieving peak physical performance among other things. I prefer their views on it because they aspire to even greater heights than just not regretting anything in your life.

Did Dorian Yates ruin body building or was it Lee Haney?

Yates' legs are way too big, but I would say his physique is still aesthetic. Ronnie Coleman ruined bodybuilding, he looks like a fucking horse.

Lee was the first to get the huge legs and lats, Yates got even bigger, and Ronnie took it to circus freakshow size. Ronnie was winning because of his size, not aesthetic and that kind of set the bar so now the sport is just totally different

>tfw jeans will never look this good on you

what are nipples?

Frank always had the most aesthetic physique.

forgot pic

i think the first guy is enough for most people

ronnie

Frank zane

>Looks like a greek god god

>he thinks being an UBERMENSCH meana being a Nazi

Lmao. Political ideology does not make you ubernensch. Being physically and mentally superior does, and btw Trump is a kike supporter so your argument is retarded.

It's not possible to be an Overman if you are not a National Socialist/Fascist.
>Being physically and mentally superior does
Yes, the mental part of which requires being a Nazi.
>Trump is a kike supporter so your argument is retarded
Yes, he is, and? That doesn't in any way go against my point, because Arnold supporting Kasich is a million times more pathetic. Arnie failed to become an Overman.

Also, there are no true Scotsmen. Fucking logical fallacy circle jerk.

Is this achievable natty?

Trump is a retard and his administration is a circus.

Kasich was a thousand times better than this fucking goof.

Hhahaha, good one. 9/10.
Trump is no nationalist, but you're literally braindead if you don't acknowledge that he was and is the best out of all the possible options USA had in these elections.

>a man who has been super successful in bodybuilding, business, acting, and political failed to become an overman

Kek, but I'm sure you are a total ubernensch.

You misunderstand me, back then the only weight classes were over and under 200 lbs. Arnie was around 220 in 75, and Lou(in the same class as him and Nubret) weighed around 280. the stated reason Serge wasn't allowed to compete was because he appeared in a film with a sex scene, and apparently that was a no go by IFBB standards back then. The weight issue is simply that he was tricked into losing muscle before the contest. This was what Nubret said about the whole situation years later.

No, you retard? No man has yet achieved becoming an Übermensch. Not a single one in history. Are you one of those ignorant fucks brainwashed by Hollywood kike versions of Nazism and don't know that the National Socialists believed no one is an Overman, but that it's a goal worth working towards achieving?
It might even be impossible, but it's still worth trying to achieve.
Arnold failed.

Well I'm not surprised (((Weider))) was a scheming cunt, he is a Jew after all. This is what every industry run by Jews is like, all about politics and favors, not about fair competition.

I agree that its a scummy move but I don't think Nubret would have won even with the extra 12 lbs. He probably would have beaten Arnold in certain capacities but as an overall bodybuilder, Arnie was fucking unstoppable. Whats somewhat ironic is the federation that Nubret formed ended up being plagued with the exact same bullshit as the IFBB, a good example being when Sergio Oliva(still a huge name at that point) defeated both Nubret and Robbie Robinson at the 1981 WABBA world cup, despite both of them being vastly superior in terms of conditioning and proportion. I think the sport is just irrevocably fucked no matter what brand it goes under or who runs it.

But yeah not a big fan of the (((entertainment industry)))

>wristlet
>necklet
>nigger
>ugly as fuck even for a nigger

Oh yeah, I'm not saying Nubret would have won. Arnold absolutely had a better physique in my opinion.

Is this you?

no

So it's true then that powerlifting is just for incels with bad genetics...

>All these Zanefags

Implying Frank ever looked as good as this.

Franco was king of the manlet category. Zane is overrated.

>"Arnold had no legs bro"

Let me preface this by saying I love franco. his chest and back are some of the greatest of all time, even including the freaks of the the 90's and beyond. however, there's a reason more people prefer Zane. The man just looks like a fucking super hero, even if Franco probably was more athletic. Zane just had incredible proportions for his frame.

You haven't explained how he failed, you dumb fuck. I don't give a shit what failed ideology like nazism thought on the matter.

The fact is he perfected himself physically and mentally, and rose above 99.9% of males on this planet.

In his book, education of a bodybuilder, Arnie says that Franco had an unaesthetic body that he forced into aesthetics by bodybuilding. Arnie even points out some of the flaws he had at first, which apparently included a very large gap between the pecs.

Arnold also said Lou had the best genetics, and he (Arnold) would have been unbeatable if he had them, but Lou didn't have Arnold's drive, apparently.

Someone pls post the pic of the olympia winners sized to real height

I've seen it here

Franck next to Arnold looked like an elf

You mean this?

while im not a huge fan of the verticle gap between franco's pecs, i think the horizontal line that appears to be unique to him is aesthetic as fuck, some of the best clavicular heads in bodybuilding history

>Nazism
>failed ideology
It worked perfectly, so you're sounding like a triggered little cuck boy right now. How was it a failure when it achieved every goal that it had LMAO.
Arnold is mentally weak apart from having the willpower to train hard like that. He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife with hideous mongrels. He lacks the wisdom to support nationalism. He's mentally quite stupid, therefore, failed to become an Overman.

Kinda. Thanks m9

There's another of them standing next to eachother with a height lines background like a police detention pic

You've obviously never read Nietzsche, you fucking absolute pleb.

Arnold was so single minded.

He wrote that after he didn't win his first Mr Olympia, he cried all night. He said he felt as though he'd let everyone in his life who had ever supported him down. Then the next day he begged his US financier (I can't remember his name) to let him stay another year and also to bring over Franco Columbo so he could train harder and win.

I mean, Arnie competed in Mr Europe Jr. And spent 7 days in military jail for it. I can't imagine Lou with that level of determination.

I have, but if you had read the thread you would know I follow the National Socialist ideal of Übermensch rather. Nietzsche was a fucking retard if we're being honest, and a hypocrite to boot. He talked all that about having your own morality and ruling your own life, and then simultaneously whines about anti-Semitism, pretty contradictory.
He had a few good ideas but was wrong about most things, and his good ideas were improved a lot by Fascist philosophers.

Why should a man with his OWN morality who is interested in ruling HIS OWN LIFE be in any way interested in hopping aboard nationalist/authoritarian turnip wagon?

Seems like a refuge for weak cucks.

simple

>I "FOLLOW" the NS "ideal"

says it all desu m8.

The only way to rule your own life is to be a National Socialist living in a NS state. It's not possible elsewhere, because other systems prevent you from being your own master.
National Socialism is true freedom. In no other system is a man as free.

It's a manner of speaking retard, reading too much into that does not an argument make.
If you are not NS, you are definitely never going to become an Overman. Completely impossible.

>criticize Arnold and Frank for having small legs
>bigger legs than Reeves
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So what you're saying is you haven't read or you've grossly misunderstood/abused Stirner's thoughts on the state AND Nietzsche's concept of the ubermensch.

Try reading slower faggot. Sound it out.

Whoops, did I just end the thread?

When did I say I have ever read Stirner? He was a complete retard and there is nothing to be gained form reading his works. He was literally a fucking cuckold top kek, his wife was fucking other men and he knew about it and did nothing.
This is the kind of person anarchists and commies idolize hahahah.
Secondly, I understand Nietzsche's concept of the Übermensch perfectly, you must be dyslexic, as I already said several times he was wrong about what an Overman is. The National Socialists were right about it.

this guy

>I haven't read it but somehow fully understand and discredit it in its entirety.

The herd is the herd is the herd, even if it's purebred. Submission is submission even if it's to your glorious volk.

If we're tossing around ADHOMs, Hitler had a micropenis, one nut, and was a literal Jewboi - and offed himself like an absolute coward.

Stay spooked you weird nerd pussy.

>nazis lost WW2 and were condemned as evil racists forever
>It worked perfectly
Wew lad.

>Arnold is mentally weak apart from having the willpower to train hard like that.
And the will to become the greatest movie star of all time when everyone told him he'll never make it. And the willpower to enter politics and become the governor of one of the biggest states in America, even though everyone thought he was a dumb meathead.

>He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife with hideous mongrels
That's just being alpha. He has a duty to nature to spread his alpha seed. Plus, have you seen his legit sons? They're failures in every way.

>He lacks the wisdom to support nationalism
He lives in a fake country where nationalism makes no sense. Why would he support it? Politics have nothing to do with being an ubermensch, anyway. That other guy was right, you've obviously never read Nietzsche.

Implying polygamy isnt one of the several deadly mistakes people make and doesn't ruin the marriage arrangement and thus send a society on a downward path to the destruction of the family/tribe unit and conclude in the collapse of the entire civilization

There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.
You're a delusional cuckold who has not read National Socialist philosophy, what makes you think you understand anything about it. It's above your tiny cuck brain.

>Hitler had a micropenis, one nut, and was a literal Jewboi
All proven lies by kikes ages ago. Funny how his Jewish physician from his company in WW1 wrote those things in his medical records AFTER WW2. If they would be true, he would have written them in the records back during WW1 when he actually did medical examinations on Hitler.

Him being in any way related to any Jews is an urban myth, never had any proof for it. But you cucks never had any real arguments, so of course you have to resort to lies and rumors, otherwise you'd just have to shut up.

>and offed himself like an absolute coward
There is no reason to believe he did. Are we supposed to trust the words of Communists? Some of the most immoral and degenerate people in all of human history, and especially since the Soviet Union was run by Jews? You think they were telling the truth about Hitler committing suicide? Jesus man, you are so naive.

Stay mad little cuck boy.

Who cares? That's not what being an ubermensch is about. Society has nothing to do with it. It's about the individual.

>There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.

hahahaha this fucking guy

Implying communuties function at all when 90% of females fuck 10% of males. The females end up in control. Your creating a bonobo masturbation society

Arnold literally cucking out and bowing to slutty cunts

Which is why it fails you retard. Individualism is a farse. Humans are naturally collectivist. Why indulge in a something that will bring long term damage to the around you? Not overman at all

Did you even read beyond good and evil? You sound like you read the back cover and filled in the gaps with your own preconceived notions of what an alpha is.

>nazis lost WW2 and were condemned as evil racists forever
Like clockwork. The same old non argument, every time. Losing a war has fuckall to do with how well a governmental and economical system worked. You realize that? Like, literally NOTHING to do with it. Two completely unrelated things. You do understand this, right? Or are you too unintelligent?

There is nothing alpha about race mixing, it's instant beta status and loss of the "Might become Overman" -card. Even more beta is cheating on your wife.

>He lives in a fake country where nationalism makes no sense. Why would he support it?
Fair enough.
>Politics have nothing to do with being an ubermensch, anyway.
Nationalism is not politics, it is a duty of every man. It's instinctual, as long as one does not suffer from testosterone deficiency like you.
>That other guy was right, you've obviously never read Nietzsche.
No, you're both retards and wrong. I have read Nietzsche, and I said this several times, Nietzsche was wrong about what an Overman is. How is this so hard for your pea brain to understand? What I am calling an Overman, I never fucking said its what Nietzsche described an Overman as. Nietzsche didn't know his own ass from his face, he was a mentally ill lunatic.

>Implying communuties function at all when 90% of females fuck 10% of males.

So what? Arnold is the top 0.1% of males, which is what makes him an ubermensch.

And if anything, women being free to choose the top 10% is good, it weeds out shitty genetics and cucks like you.

>the overman is about no regrets
Jesus Christ, you have no idea what you're talking about. The fascists didn't understand Nietzsche either.

Not an argument. You have no counter argument to it, as it is objective truth.
Pic related, it's you.

>There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

His mother was a Jew, and if Jewery is a race rather than a creed (((Hitler))) he would be ???????

If he didn't kill himself, then THEY killed him? Wouldn't that mean their collectivist spookery OVERPOWERED your preferred flavor of masses bent to an abstract ideal?

I'm not mad m8 I just would hate to see you persist in making a fool out of yourself on the internet. I worry about you user.

I'll admit his babydick is ultimately irrelevant.