For example look at this picture these two could be different species. The one on the left looks beter in every single way than the other guy.
How does this happen? He just lucked out on the genetic lottery.
His life will be pure bliss. Imagine the dopamine rush he gets every time he looks in the mirror.
Honestly, sculpting your body is one thing but having an attractive face trumps everything.
Literally every single person, from every cultural background in every time era feels a strong attraction to pure beauty.
Brody Rodriguez
I realized when I was born with good genes, feels goooooood man.
Jose James
Improper usage of proper genetics can result in huge loss of potential.
And every freak, disgusting male can get a +2 on the zero to 10 scale just by being fit and lifting well.
Except in really extreme cases like ronny with his roid gut. I dont think that he is attractive to any woman out there.
Tyler Rivera
What's up with the model's eyes though? They are so far apart and narrow like jap eyes.
Xavier Reed
>The one on the left looks beter in every single way than the other guy when did you realize you were gay? go back to /r9k/ nobody buys into this shit except virgins and beta numales
Grayson Smith
I doubt a 4/10 4'11 manlet can become a 6/10 (above average) just by lifting, or men with shit genetics like pic related.
Attractiveness and beauty in general are extremely complex. A single feature can throw off a whole person.
Jeremiah Lee
An ugly 4'11" manlet wasn't a 4/10 to start with
Brody Young
They're not. You're only ugly if you think that genes mean everything.
Thomas Roberts
It looks ideal. Small and wide eyes like Clint Eastwood are godtier. How is it any different from discussing ideal physiques?
Carson Davis
nope, he's going bald
Justin Torres
I never stated he was ugly. I 100% agree with this picture. Every single aspect of improvement including surgery should be encouraged.
Even if you look like complete shit you should at least look presentable.
However one shouldn't be deluded in thinking it will suddenly "fix" all your problems.
Ryder Campbell
Looks a lot better in this pic.
Lucas Jackson
Nope, he always had a shithairline. He just runs coverup game. He looks a lot better now. He looked a bit too boyish when he was younger.
Wyatt Wright
Then that manlet will be more handsome in the face of manlettes. But also a bit more in non manletttins. But still overall, with all the factors included...it would generally give you a +2 boost on the scales. The exceptions are extremely rare.
Why do you think that niggers, with all of their effort, with all of their careful training still only can get low, to barely average white trash females? Race is therefore also a huge factor.
But if you are white, the general rule of +2, unless you have an extreme abnormality (extremely rare) will give you a huge boost.
Chase Bennett
Ok,dude, but tell me this... Are you him or are you just gay for him? Hid a good looking bro but why are you so in awe?
I agree that any improvement is good, but i find it too arbitrary too put a number next to it.
About the nigger issue it really depends on where you are from. Usually in Europe they do quite well or maybe the average women here looks better, idk.
Race is an immense factor, i would say being Asian/Indian and lifting will give you a huge boost because it's completely out of the norm.
You will standout in a very good way and completely destroy the average person of your race, while the average black person is quite lean so it's harder to stand out.
Ryan Morales
look how small his fucking forehead is, do you actually think anybody says with a 12 year old hairline their entire lives?
Gavin Wood
good god almighty, the things i would let homeboy on the left do to me.
Caleb Campbell
oh get over your adolescent crush. He looks like he as an extra chromosome in comparison to based gandy
Brayden Diaz
I'm straight as an arrow, i can't get even get it up for masculine women or trannies. It all started with me reading literature on aestheticism/beauty and the effects it has on humans today and in history.
I just think he is a good example of male beauty in general. If i could change my looks i would probably look more like this.
Thomas Davis
because the people discussing ideal physiques are actively trying to build those physiques, like mechanics talking about cars, they know they're just machines and that it's possible to put an awesome engine on a goofy frame and make a sleeper that can out perform really pretty stock cars
You're basically a 16 year old girl who got a new Jetta for her birthday and you're pissed off you didn't get an Aventador
Noah Sanders
no the race thing really is a huge blockage, even the best of the niggers, who inherited the most of the european genes from when their mothers were getting raped by the colonial dick. Still have to do insane, tons of effort to get even average pussy.
Being black more or less gives a nigger a -8 on the scale
an indian somewhere along -6
and yes I can put numbers on them, some things work with simplification and this is one of them. Hard work and dedication on your body may allow you to out-compete those gifted in genetics. Especially if you add up other factors which women like atop of it, like being a social fuckboy, some cash as well. Sure you may not be able to get that tinder game, but if you were at a bar, and you were a muscle 6/10 (now closer to 7/10, 8/10) and your game, your social crap was good, then you could outcompete chad thundercock. And if he steps up his game, you just keep on trying to formulate new strategies if you can or want to. Not every battle is winnable, but I suspect that most are.
Elijah Richardson
How old are you? Have you ever been in a long term relationship with a woman that loves you? Were you raised by a single parent? I'm really curious about what kind of person makes these posts.
Xavier Wood
A while now, actually. Genes determine your quality of life, and what kind of life you will live. It all comes down to HEIGHT, FACE, FRAME
Josiah Harris
His face is really ayy lmao-like Still,crawl through barbeque sauce for boipucsi
Cameron Taylor
This. That post was actually truly autistic in so many ways.
Xavier Garcia
29, had one long term relationship of 4 years, yes to the single parent, well...kinda, mostly two parents I guess.
I got good enough facial aesthetics and didnt have trouble attracting women from an early age, mild mannered behavior as well I may say.
But when I turned fat I noticed a big difference. When I was skinny it was okay, fat was a big minus, but being huger and fit really did give me that +2.
Anyone who says otherwise to you lies.
Luis Bell
The average black guy is less attractive than the average white guy to a woman of a random race.
But there are black guys who are considered universally attractive.
Someone who looks like Idris Elba doesn't have to put any sort of effort to get laid.
Brandon Thompson
Both body and face are changeable. Face just has more impact on overall attractiveness. Body is the chassis and face is the engine.
I agree on the latter part. The race part really depends on location though. I've seen Black guys do really well in Sweden and Indian guys do well in Eastern-Europe and South-America.
I think being WASP is universally the best. Not all whites are equal.
Isaiah Russell
>used to get laid >got fat >doesn't get laid anymore >muh genetics
Charles Ward
cont.
And just to prove my point here's a picture of myself after I started lifting to compliment my facial aesthetic genes.
Julian Cruz
wat, I am not fat anymore. why are you guys so cringey, jesus. Probably poo in loo's and/or niggers lol. I regularly encounter women now who do that lip bitey thing, quite nice.
Oliver Taylor
He could easily fuck 1000 Asian women if he wanted.
Asher Ward
that hurts :( brings balance to the force though I guess
Connor Brown
get fit then see what happens first hand, until then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
Christopher Anderson
Gandy has aged badly though. Beauty doesn't know race. Holy fuck he became ultra Chad. His neck looks huge.
Jeremiah Evans
this is bait
Jose Wilson
I'm low bodyfat with some muscle, always have been. Maybe it's more drastic if you go from obese to fit.
Cooper Gonzalez
goddamnit, I swear to god I'm gonna start my own forum one of these days that that requires ID, background checks, and an interview
Lincoln Kelly
Nice try lol
Camden Martinez
even chads are insecure
topkek
Ian Campbell
This shit needs to stop. You don't need to look like Jordan Barret (or any other male model) to get girls. As long as you're somewhat above average (an average guy can become above with the right grooming), you don't have actual autism and don't have extremely high standards, you too can have a meaningful sex life.
Evan Phillips
>average black person is very lean The majority of blacks are overweight
Chase James
>why is a guy who takes care of himself more attractive than a guy 80+ pounds overweight with a shitty haircut
gee user I don't know
Elijah Sanders
>tfw balding much worse with already shitty hair and only 18
Xavier Baker
He doesn't look much overweight just has shitty fat storage genetics. He probably takes better care of himself than most members here.
Jack Roberts
1. Loose weight
2. Start mewing and chewing gum
3. Increase carotenoid consumption by 300%
4. Sweat hard everyday and catch 1 hour off sun at 11 am
5. Groom, get a haircut that fits your faceshape, trim your eyebrows or get them done, get a better shampoo
6. Add vitamins and colagen
7. Change your diet
8. Sleep 8 hours per night
Wait 2 years
You're now chad.
John Morales
There's a difference between a hairline maturing and receding. His shit is receding. If he's lucky, he may look good with it like Hugo Weaving.
Jayden Ortiz
Hugo Weaving doesn't look good.
Ayden Powell
>You're now chad.
Not really, but you'll be a heck of a lot better looking, that's for sure.
Noah Garcia
Thank god I was born with wide as fuck shoulders.
Camden Jackson
Good coice, this guy looks way better, mora manly imo.
Jack Sanchez
He has a chance to pull off a Freddie Ljunberg.
Cooper Cooper
dude you can see his gut through his shirts. If your belly sticks out more than your chest you're overweight
Nicholas Parker
When a man looks too good he turns into a woman. Just without a pussy and thus no value.
Xavier Brooks
Only people who never had casual sex obsess over it this much. Yeah, guy is hot, he is fucking equally hot people from his social circle Doesn't affect my life in any way
Elijah Garcia
>It's another jaw measuring incel autist who claims to be """"straight"""" with a collection of hot male models
You failed at life. No one gives a shit, making 10 threads a day won't chance this