Testosterone levels at an all-time low

What is causing it? How can we make sure that we minimize the effects on ourselves personally?

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Run a cycle or stop being a fatass

Since the 70s the US government has advocated a low fat diet and the population as a whole has reduced their fat intake.

Ergo, vise vi, concordantly, T has fallen.

that guy wasn't wrong though, it's just simple biology

ban the anti baby pill
women shouldn't be allowed to avoid the estrogen increase during their period, it makes them pick weak men over stronger ones

>white boy
>somehow this isn't just as racist/sexist as saying black girl
Nah man technically there are two sexes based on the reproductive organs, gender is a mental identification. Someone with a penis who wears dresses would be
>Sex: Male
>Gender: Female
Just to put it super simply. Obviously you can identify with no gender, or both genders, one gender one day and the next gender the next day etc. Sex is concrete based on genitalia. Gender is a mental thing.

Stop drinking tap water. It has leftover birth control hormones in it.

There are a myriad of causes such as obesity and estrogen mimickers in the food and water. Exercise, eat clean and filter your water.

Because we're more sedentary, hit the gym and start hiking.

Yes
wrong, sex = gender
Gender is basically evolution telling us how/what to be based on our sex and bodies
it's telling women to do less excruciating jobs because their bodies are naturally weaker, and telling men to do hard labour jobs

Yes, it may be a social construct but it's there to keep you alive and well by trying to prevent you from doing retarded shit that your body is incapable of doing (see: women in the military)

Reminder that there's no proof to back up the theory of gender and anyone who claims to be anything other than the sex they were born with, has a mental disorder.

There are 2 sexes and no genders.

Gender is not a mental thing when it's .9999 correlated with sex.

Gender is a weaponized academic construct intended to legitimize weakness and degeneracy.

Not really true. Biologically testosterone slowly kills us in the long run.
It weakens the immune response (causing cancers and various other terminal illnesses) and greatly increases the risk of heart disease/failure through slight hypertrophy of the heart.

The brightest stars burn the shortest. Also I don't believe you.

based white boy

Our bodies kill is in the long run. Well there's a fucking revelation huh. It's about quality of life.
Being low in testosterone is a much bigger problem than being high in testosterone. I hope you're not saying otherwise.

grap seed oil, vitamin d, zinc, stopping browsing /pol/

>sex = gender

Wrong. Sex is biology, gender is identity. The two are completely separate. You can be a bio-girl and identify 100% male.

>The two are completely separate.

That's a lie and you shouldn't lie. Not even ironically.

zinc picolinate

sex=gender

It's true. Biological trade off for being badass. You can't expect your body to constantly pump anabolics around for your whole life and not affect more than skeletal muscle.
I ain't saying sheeeit, niqqa.
The other guy said our hormones keep us alive and doing certain jobs, and I'm saying we have the capability to do those jobs, but it certainly doesn't keep us at a biologically perfect state. An adult chick will have a stronger immune system than dudes due to the high presence of oestrogen. Testosterone acts on various receptors to inhibit immune growth factors, it's why smoking dudes are far less likely to develop COPD than chicks smoking the same amount of cigarettes (even scaled for bodymass), cus our immune systems react with less severity to the smoke.

Yes and I can identify as an attack helicopter and if I'm serious about that I have a mental illness.

Sex is real and there are 2 sexes. Gender is nonsense.

>but it certainly doesn't keep us at a biologically perfect state

No, that would be a situation where the rate of cell death is a perfect 1:1 ratio, or something like that. Which is obviously not achievable. What you're saying essentially boils down to saying that men and women are different and have intrinsic biological advantages and disadvantages, which is true. Are you just informing everyone about that, or what?

>Who lets these people out of the house

>You can be a bio-girl and identify 100% male.
then that's a mental illness

this behind him is house, they are not living any poor

This.
Lower cholesterol means less building blocks for testosterone.
Body fat aromatising testosterone also causes a snowball effect. fat>low test>fatter>lower test

Yeah, pretty much.
This comment just rubbed me the wrong way somehow about the keeping alive thing. Probably cus I have add, ocd and dyslexia.

The definition for the term gender was deliberately changed to push this bullshit.

You are now aware of this fact and no longer have to accept liberal Bullshit.

>This comment just rubbed me the wrong way somehow about the keeping alive thing. Probably cus I have add, ocd and dyslexia.
I'll rub your something else user :3

...

That sounds haram, user

Basic guide to ideal T levels:
>get a half hour of sun exposure daily (wearing only shorts or a swimsuit), or supplement vitamin D (4000-5000 IU)
>exercise vigorously 6 days a week. Alternate lifting/calisthenics days and sprints/HIIT days. Walk for an hour or two if you want to lose weight (doing high intensity distance work wrecks your T levels due to corisol production)
>eat a high fat, high protein, low carb diet. Loosely try to keep your carbs to fruits and veggies only (occasional oats, pasta, rice, or beans is fine)
>move more. If you have to sit for your job, at least manspread. Keep your balls cool
>avoid T killing products like BPA plastics or IPA beers
>act more confident and assertive. Fake it until you make it if you have to
>strict no porn, only fap once or twice a week. Preferably find a woman and fuck her
>sleep 8 hours a day
>sounds weird, but tell the truth. Lying causes psychological stress, which increases cortisol and lowers T
>final recommendation, fast once a week. I fast from sundown Friday to sunrise Sunday. The reasoning is that it increases your insulin sensitivity, increases your metabolism, and burns fat while maintaining lean body mass (it doesn't kill gains, "starvation mode" is a myth). Plus it's great for self-discipline

Gender dysphoria is no longer a mental illness.

we're over

what
in what world?

Sex = gender. For all the people saying gender is just your identity, you are wrong. That's called your personality. Everyone has one.

Also people want to say gender is a social construct so they should ignore it? Well wearing a dress so you look like a girl is a social construct. You were born a man. You can do whatever you want for a 'll I care. Chop your sick off, get fake tots, take hormones. All this is fine if you (1) pay for it all yourself and (2) realize that you are still a man. Chromosomes don't lie.

For the ppl saying what abt those born with cat or some other such thing? Your genitals determine your gender. If you have both, you are a hermaphrodite. That's not a gender. You can choose to be a man or a woman. Or even both. But if recommend picking the one thats not sterile, and going from there.

But then you'd never get any pussy

In the civilized world.

Reminder to all anons that you can fix this. Look at the high T levels of decades past and look at the trends between then and now, it explains itself. Men used to work outside more, especially 100+ years ago, meaning large amounts of vitamin D from sun exposure (that's why the recommended daily value of vitamin D is so low, if you went by just that recommendation you'd be deficient) vs today, most people are inside all the time. Result: vitamin D deficiency, lower T production, sometimes even seasonal affective disorder. In the past men used to do morse active jobs or at least walk places, as well as eat high fat, high protein diets (steak and eggs, fried in butter was a common breakfast at the turn of the cuntury), nowadays everyone drives even short distances and eats low fat, high carb diets. Result: massive increase in obesity and decrease in T (fat cells aromatize testosterone into estrogen, beer bellies literally create man boobs). Sperm counts were higher as well because everyone moved more: heat kills sperm, your balls are hottest when you're sitting or lying down, and coolest when you're moving. Result: sperm counts have halved in the past 30 years (also due to lower T). And finally behavior: acting assertive and cordially aggressive (don't be a nigger) is positively correlated with testosterone production, meaning how you act literally affects your hormonal levels. Men back in the day used to be assertive, stern, and commanding, which did and continues to make women's panties wet, no matter what they claim otherwise. Meanwhile some low-T, timid, beta, pussy wonders why he keeps getting strung along, cucked, and friendzoned. That's why.

>What is causing it?
Sedentary liftestyles.
Not being competitive.
Absentee fathers.
Being raised by women only.
Too much internet porn and video games.
Shitty diet.

>How can we make sure that we minimize the effects on ourselves personally?
Become a tradesman and get off your ass.

this is unironically true

Naw my man. Sex is your biological chromosome markers, gender is what you identify as.

Your sex determines your genitals, the X/X X/Y decision is made before your gonads develop, not the other way around. This is a very complex issue, and based on your total lack of understanding, I would suggest you not weigh in on the issue any more.

There was a thicker ozone layer then. The same exposure to sun causes cancer even faster.

As for vitamin D, it's often reinforced again and again in nutritional studies that 50% of most developed countries populations are vitamin D deficient.

>gender is what you identify as.
But that's wrong, you fucking retard

Are you an attack helicopter?

Tons of factors influence it, many of them are fortunately inside your control.

>eat clean
>exercise daily
>don't smoke or drink in excess
>noporn, reduce fap to zero if possible, fucking > fapping
>compete and do challenges, win
>sire as many children as you can reliably sustain
>never stop lifting, never stop winning

And if you really want to you can supplement your T on a low-dose cycle.

I identify as Hank Hill and I'm only attracted to propane

Naw dog, it's not

"Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. (en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender)"

Aka Europ00r.
Inb4Achmedbeheadstheladybois

What about propane accessories?

Or is that like being a paedo?

you cant honestly believe that a deficiency in fat throughout the U.S. is what's causing the decline in testosterone...
the decline in average t levels is in line with rising obesity levels

The theories of gender identity were built on the foundations of a pedophile jew named John Money. Read about the case of David Reimer.

An attack helicopter identifying as Hank Hill?

My wife is a psychologist and would like a chat.

Don't be a fucking jackass

Jesus man, the whole anti-semite doom prepper neo nazi /pol/ vibe is so fucking tired.

That looks pretty comfy, especially if it's really innawoods.

Except it is, just like age dysphoria

More like America

Hey, maybe he was a pedophile jew?

What the actual. You know what is fit becoming /lgbt/q

He literally was a pedophile jew. His ancestry was Jewish as was his religion and the accounts of the Reimer twins show that he was a pedophile who insisted that children learn and act sexually at a young age.

in that case, you should probably cut your nuts off

Nah that's wrong. You are either male or female. Gender is just your personality. Stop advocating that makes in dresses are women. Start advocating that it's ok for a man to wear a dress. Break down gender roles. Not gender identitities

>fit becoming /lgbt/q
His post had nothing to do with that

I appreciate that you keep up with the antisemitism, because it helps me identify idiots.

viper u stupid as hell

jem.rupress.org/content/early/2017/05/05/jem.20161807
Long and short of it is about lung stuff, how testosterone modulates (lowers) immune response. This happens physiologically everywhere too. Men have a slightly weaker immune system, but it has it's own benefits, since we are less likely to develop auto-immune disorders too. This is all pretty new research from last year to now.

As for the heart stuff, that's been known for over a decade.

Hey buddy, I don't give a fuck what people wear or identify as, because it's got no fucking bearing on me, and I'm not going to sit here and tell other people how to live. This shit is why I have such a hard time voting Conservative, because fuckheads like you took the political affiliation of liberty and freedom of choice and you've turned it into a fascist shitshow.

Chill the fuck out; if Joe Schmoe wants to be called Jane from now on and wear a dress, what the fuck's it to you?

I suspect he was trying to discredit me by saying I was making shit up for a gay agenda

Nonsense. Gender roles, or more accurate sex roles make up immutable foundations of society. Deviancy of traditional roles leads to social decline and needless suffering. Extreme sexual deviants need proper therapy and support networks to break their mental pathologies, not a blanket acceptance and even endorsement of their impaired faculties.

show me one study that shows naturally high testosterone levels cause heart disease

I am guessing you're right. This place reeks of shit, my man

>gender is a mental identification

I see someone failed biology

You guys are forgetting there is a thing such as neurological gender. Dick Swaab, a Dutch neurologist, extensively studied the differences between male and female brains. As time went on he expanded his research to brains of transsexual individuals.

It turns out, that trans men (those born female) have masculinised brain structures, and trans women (those born male) have androgynous to female brain structures.

my bad: neurological sex**

so i should consume just enough fats to not actually get fat but keep my shit in check?

Fats don't make you fat, excess calories make you fat.
You are not a middle aged woman, user, you are better than this, don't fall for momscience

In his studies did he have any theories on why that was? From my understanding brain structure is relatively plastic and prone to modification from environmental stressors, degrees of myelination, as well as genetic factors.

You make it sound like nutritional fat gives you body fat

Consuming fats does not make you fat, consuming calories in excess leads to them being stored in fat cells.

hyper.ahajournals.org/content/37/5/1199.short
I can't specifically point to it because the link can't be definitively made, and I really can't be bothered searching in-depth for the newest, cutting edge research, all I can point out is that men are 'disproportionately' at risk of heart disease and they have been known to be for a long time, as this article is from 2001. Physiology hasn't really progressed enough, despite going from 'lmao we theorise cells have membranes' in the 1940s to coming up with receptors linked with cancer nowdays. New receptors and feedback systems are still being discovered.

People are fat, people sit on their asses all day which is correlated with less sperm and test, and people have garbage diet with 85% carbs.
Honestly if you work out and you take care of yourself with a proper diet you likely won't have low test.

The part of your brain that is supposed to dictate (neurological) sex is such an innate part of your brain structure.

It's really a tiny portion and can only be studied post mortem. While not attributed to Swaab, the common theory of brain sex development is hormonal imbalances in utero. As it happens at a crucial stage of development, it is an irreversible change.

myragewillendworlds.tumblr.com this guy has tons of sources on this and even has explanations why meme genders like genderqueer and agender are impossible.

t. Trans guy who hates non binary ~*~queers~*~

>Dick Swaab

Aye. I remember when he buried Asha Tuinbroecke on live TV.

Oh yeah vitamin D is very important, and very easy to fix.

You don't have to eat fat to get obese, you dumbshit. People switch out fat, which is actually nutritious, with fucking sugar. And there you go, now you're both fat, AND have no test!

Lol bacon egg and cheese doesnt have enough fat in it? Fat shit

Dick Swaab is the only reason I could convince my parents being trans was biological and not a phase. Plus the dutch healthcare treatment for young transsexuals is the best in the world.

Basically I love the guy.

Interesting. Could external stressors affect this as well? It's known that many chemicals in our products are endocrine disruptors, I wouldn't be surprised if it's had an impact on the explosion of transexuality.

Very nice. But the fapping party is a problem. I'm 35 and I still fap and cum on average 6 times a day. 2 before work, 2 after work, 2 before bed. I don't really do porn. Is that bad?

I have Grindr hookups 3 or 4 days a week and on weekends several a day. That correspondingly lower the fap count, but I still cum many times a day. I have a rather crazy libido and just want to fuck anything.

it is literally because of increased estrogen and chemicals in the water from the presence of plastics, pills, pollution and medical waste

>6 times a day
What? How? I can do it once a day max unless I'm really fucking turned on, and even then I find that it's harder to really get into it

The explosion of transsexualism has a lot more to do with politics than with external stressors. Transsexualism has become a trend like bisexuality used to be. See the link I posted for more info on the cultural phenomenon. It's important to make a distinction between trans folk who genuinely want to alleviate their gender dysphoria, and leftists who want to be oppressed and special.

Perhaps external stressors on mothers would influence in utero hormone levels, but not at stages of infancy. This would mean that most of these mothers had such chemical endocrine disruptors in the 90s and early 00s.

What I can tell you, from my experience and that of my friends (both trans women and men) is that hormones are an integral part of fighting depression. Now that my levels are up to a level that I can grow facial hair and make gains, I hardly think of killing myself. I can imagine that people who don't exercise feel worse.

OMG gay. OMG. OMG. OMG. Gay. Gay. Gay. Gay. Gay. Gay. Gay.

You have to go back.

The place you want me to go is where YOU came from, and now you're trying too hard to fit in.

>Trying to fit in anonynously on an vietnamese underwater basket weaving forum
Really fires my neurons

just because someone is more feminine doesn't mean they are an actual girl

if there's no (necessary) difference between men and women then theres no need to categorize them. if you want there to be a discussion about this whole gender thing then you need to explain what you need to do, be or feel like in order to be a man or a woman.

if there's no distinctions then we could just get rid of the whole idea of "gender" and start reffering to eachother by our biological sex (crazy, i know)

>vise vi
fyi user it's vis a vis (or vis-à-vis) and it means "with regards to"