Keto for cutting? Yay or Nay?

>t. I know nothing about ketosis and have never tried a keto diet

Hmm.... eat like a retard and eat high fat which has shown to lead to heart disease or eat a balanced diet with carbs and protein that are much more important, satiating, healthy, and substantial for muscle growth and recovery? wow hard choice.

no wonder everyone says to try keto! oh wait no only retarded special snowflakes who dont know jack shit about nutrition

so basically dont have rice with my chicken breasts and make my protein shakes with water instead of milk. big fucking deal

>t. I know nothing about ketosis and have never tried a keto diet

pseudoketosis isn't bad, like doing 6 days on full keto and 1 day normal each week. i've known people who get great results that way. however, full ketogenic diet is full-on retarded, and most people are probably just better off doing proper nutrition instead of some meme shit

>high fat which has shown to lead to heart disease

Lol nice mom science you have there.Its been proven that a high carb diet leads to heart problems.You dont know shit about nutrition youre dismissed

What's the point of keto if I can't get my fat macros from delicious fried foods and burgers?

Keto is great for cutting. Literally just eat zero carbs. As long as you get enough protein, fats and veges you will burn off the fat

haha i did keto in 2013 cause of zyzz' cutting diet advice. it sucked balls and literally pointless. no metabolic advantage, you actually have zero redeeming values besides the typical fat powerlifter neckbeard response of "MUH BACON AND CHEESE"

carbs are the preferred source of energy of the brain, make you feel better, provide ample energy, are healthy, contain nutrients and fiber. what kind of fucking diet limits your vegetable and fruit intake? oh keto does! strike 2. but by all means, eat like shit and die earlier instead of just being normal and eating a regular diet

>low carb increases all cause mortality
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989112/

ill link more just lmk boo

alan aragon is the nutrition GOAT and he says keto is an unnecessary meme

also this.
alan used to be highly regarded here before the fat PL took over and the influx of neet weirdos from r9k

You say that now...
Lmao

need i remind you that the human body doesn't need carbs in order to function properly?

start cutting the carbs below 100 net first vb4 considering something drastic. Easily done by eating mostly veggies for carbs,yes even higher carb stuff in moderation like potatoes

it doesn't need carbs to survive, much like it doesn't need an appendix, but that in no way implies optimality for health and performance

A diet based on whole grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables leads to heart problems?

nice correlation there buddy, you're making a very strong point

youtube.com/watch?v=Dan8qtgQRi8
watch this thing, watch it until the end

Carbs are all converted into sugar. Sugar in the blood acts as shards that form arterial tears in the heart that are then filled with cholesterol to form scars causing blood clots. The (((experts))) literally blame the firemen for the fire.

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Oh sorry user I didn't see you behind me.

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>A low-carbohydrate diet based on animal sources was associated with higher all-cause mortality in both men and women, whereas a vegetable-based low-carbohydrate diet was associated with lower all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality rates.

>a vegetable-based low-carbohydrate diet was associated with lower all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality rates

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anyway whats this thread about?

It's irresponsible to suggest that bdnf is miracle-gro for the brain. The brain itself is a recursive structure that relies on a plethora of other proteins, enzymes, and cofactors. How do I know this? I just graduated doing research on bdnf's involvement in parkinsons. Neuroscience grad here. Video is garbage.

nice meme

Keto might work for some, but for me it sucked. I was on a hard cut for quite some time (started at 330lbs) and had just hit 210lbs at 6ft and lifts were safely above 1/2/3/4 so I looked pretty decent. Not ripped, but some bicep veins and to normies I was easily bearmode.

The final stage of the cut proved, naturally, harder than the previous ones. I wasn't a hambeast anymore and my training required a lot of protein and energy, so a caloric deficit required more planning. Instead of putting in the extra effort, I thought I'd meme myself to athletic mode and tried keto.

Boy that was a mistake. First off, the first couple of weaks on keto you'll be weak as FUCK. I couldn't keep hit my usual numbers at all. This made me crave more calories (and electrolytes and cards) cause I absolutely loathe underperforming at the gym.

Then you have the carb-ups/refeeds. Now, these might be easy for normal humans looking to shed a few pounds, but for an ex-hambeast that has been on an autistically strict diet for ages, suddenly breaking the routine every now and then is a bad idea. The skid is real.

In the end, keto made me both weaker and a bit fatter. Took a bit to recover and start eating normally (i.e. a real cut and a normal healthy without bullshit gimmicks) but that shit set me back a couple of months at least.

TLDR: If you can get it done eating normally, then stick with that. Keto isn't magic and to me, it's more trouble than it's worth. If all that micromanaging went into a normal diet, you'd be controlling your weight like a thermostat.

President of the international neuroscience academy here. Don't listen to this guy he doesn't know what he's talking about

the pic says "remember: ketosis is best done in 2 week cycles. carb up after 2 weeks for 3 days, eating at maintainance" calories, the start keto again"
does not keto start like 1 week after conusming very low carb? why should one carb up after 2 weeks?

keto is literally just a different way of doing the same thing. Even after entering ketosis if you're not a total lardass you're going to be barely losing more than a regular diet. You might lose an extra 3 pounds in a 4-month period and to me that is just not worth the amount of shit you have to go through.

except for the fact that on ketosis you lose less lean body mass

how much less? Is it significant over a 4-month period?

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>High fat diet
>Calorie deficit
What do you eat for fats that make you literally not want to kill yourself?
Wouldn't you just feel hungry as fuck all the time?
Where do I get fats that fill me up and satisfy hunger?

Yes

That's fucking stupid. You would feel way worse doing no carbs 6 days and breaking that with carbs on 7th.

>Sugar in the blood acts as shards that form arterial tears in the heart that are then filled with cholesterol to form scars causing blood clots
Please be bait

Wow. How dare you talk to me like that, motherfucker. How dare you.

Mease te bait

Inventor of the brain here, disregard these idiots

worked wonders for my friend so i dunno, i tend to steer clear from fad diets and get results anyways
are you autistic?

I'm not saying it wouldn't work, just you would feel way worse.
CICO IIFYM Master Race

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> carb refeeds
That was your error user, TKD (essentially a bit of dextrose preworkout) is a lot easier to manage.