Were Trojans Greeks?

Probably luwians.

The city is older than the Greeks though a greek minority was probably present at the site as proven by the pottery

Wasn't troy destroyed and rebuilt multiple times?

>worships greek gods
>has greek names
>aeneas brother is literally called helenos

gee maybe they are.

All me

how do you know these aren't just translations? I mean, king canute wasn't actually named canute either

Trojans were obviously long-lost Sumerian exiles.

No but according to Herodotus the Persians are Greek!

>canute
>it's real
kek, I'm Norwegian and are people unable to say KNUT?

his name was knud tho

Luwian/Hittite/Anatolian.

Trojans = Anatolians = TÜRKIC
This

>from the renaissance scholar
>renaissance
>historians
lmaoin irl

My god your people truly are roaches

Apolo wasn't jsut Greek, it was worshiped by Hittites too

Paris = Trojan Anatolian BLACK Bull
menelaus = beta white g*yreek boy
helen = woman who has to choose

Homer just made shit up as he went along since essentially what he had was the oral tradition hundreds of years after that war happened.

Even during classical Greece they doubted the historicity of the Trojan war, Plato and Thucydides believed the whole story was a bunch of nonsense.

The ancient world probably worshiped similar enough gods since many were indo-european.

That’s not what was asked. Reread the question.

It's because we silly English speakers dropped the kn sound. Seeing Knut is the same as Nut, so they wanted it to be clear.

KARA BOGA!!!

The u-sound in knut does not sound anything like the one in nut
t. Scandinavian

Where exactly was Troy on the map?

There really are stock images for everything, aren't there.

Because you know, an Anglo seeing Knut would instantly recognize that.

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Trojans were culturally very similar to the Greeks (not Hellenized, that hadn't happened yet).
Ethnically they had Pelasgian origins, which are understood today as proto-Greeks but were not believed to be Grecian by Greeks in Antiquity. Herodotus disdained the Pelasgians, and offers an alternative Hellenic identity to the Greek peoples of Anatolia by indirectly linking them with the Heraclids, descendants of Prometheus through Heracles. To Herodotus et al. The Lacedaimonians/Doric Greeks were the original Hellenic peoples descended from Heracles, which we now understand today to be completely opposite of the truth.

You do know that the site of Troy has been found irl for years, right?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_VII

Greeks faked everything, dont trust them.

Trojans were Anatolians.

Now, which modern group of people wants to larp as Trojans is an entirely different question.

They were memes. A fake and gay fiction like most pop history.

ALBANIANS

KARA BOGA 100%TURKIC

they were bosnians and troy was known as Gabela

even eric bana looks a bit bosnian-like

That wasn't a joke. The Roman's founding legend is just funny.

The problem with this question is that the Trojan war took place during the Bronze Age in which there was no real concept of Greek as we know it. The concept of Greek was mostly put forth by the book you have this city from by Homer. As he was describing something in a book that would form the Greek identity afterwards calling something Greek in homer is kind of impossible. The material culture that has been found (and hasn't been blown up with dynamite by Schliemann) show a highly intermingled culture with a high level of trade contacts with both the greeks and the hittites. It is more a difference between Virginia and California than a difference Between North-Korea and Zimbabwe.

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There was a concept Hittites called the Greeks Ahhyawa or “Acheans”

There is documented use of the word Ahhyawa in Hittite correct. There are also mentions in Egyptian texts about the Greek region. This means that these cultures talked about a region which was distinct enough for alien nations to give it a label. This coincides with the use of Homeric Achean. This does not mean however that there was something like a Greek identity and definitely not a Hellenic Greek one which originated with Homer.

The Palace era of Late Bronze Age Greek is in sharp contrast with a united Greek identity which would arise in later Eras. The term Acheans seem to imply a Mycenean identity but putting the label Greek on Mycenean culture because it was in the same region is a false equivalency. This comparable to saying that Turks are Hittites because they lived in the same region. And after just the smallest amount of research, you would find this as just being false.

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>This does not mean however that there was something like a Greek identity

If they spoke the same language, there was, that doesn't mean they were all politically united but they probably had a word to define people who spoke their language

>The Palace era of Late Bronze Age Greek is in sharp contrast with a united Greek identity which would arise in later Eras.

not really, in the later periods Greeks were probably even more divided, considering they all lived in city states, the Hittites considered the king of Ahhyawa important enough to call him brother, which means he probably ruled over a big part of Greece

>his comparable to saying that Turks are Hittites because they lived in the same region.

It's not because Turks and Hittites speak completely different languages and have a completely different religion, Mycenaean greeks and Classical Greeks spoke more or less the same language and shared a lot of deities, not to mention that some Mycenaean cities such as Argos were occupied without a break well into the iron age, while Hittites cities were abandoned, thus yours is a false analogy

Afaik they were a very early greek colony which grew to the status of a powerful city state in its own right.

They were Lydians/Anatolians.

No, Lydians arise 400 centuries after the fall of Troy, they were probably Luwians
They weren't a Greek colony, though Troy shared a common origin with many pre-greek cities in the Aegean such as those which were in the Cycladean islands or in some parts of Greece that formed during the late calcholithic

>It's what Homer would've wanted
I doubt he wanted anything to do with niggers

Let's look at the Table of Nations:

A. Four Sons of Ham:
1. Mizraim (Egypt)
2. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)
3. Put (Lybia)
4. Canaan (Hivites, Jebusites, Arvadites, Girgashites, Amorites, Arkites, Sinites, Hittites,
Sidonians, Perizzites, Zemarites)

B. Five Sons of Shem:
1. Elam (Arabia)
2. Asshur (Assyria)
3. Lud (Lydians)
4. Aram (Aramaic, Armenia, Mesopotamia, Syria)
5. Arphaxad (From which Abraham descended)

C. Japheth's Descendants (14 Nations came out of Japheth):
The immediate descendants of Japheth were seven in number, and are represented by the nations designated Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Mesech, and Tiras; or, roughly, the Armenians, Lydians, Medes, Greeks, Tibarenians, and Moschians, the last, Tiras, remaining still obscure. The sons of Gomer (Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah) were all settled in the West Asian tract; while the sons of Javan (Elisah, Tarshish, Kittim and Dodanim or Rodanim) occupied the Mediterranean coast and the adjacent islands.

Seven Sons of Japheth
1. Javan (Greece, Romans, Romance -- French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese)
2. Magog (Scythians, Slavs, Russians, Bulgarians, Bohemians, Poles, Slovaks, Croatians)
3. Madai (Indians & Iranic: Medes, Persians, Afghans, Kurds)
4. Tubal (South of Black Sea)
5. Tiras (Thracians, Teutons, Germans, Scandinavian, Anglo-Saxon, Jutes)
6. Meshech (Russia)
7. Gomer (Celtic)

According to the Bible, the Trojans were either descendants of Lud (Lydian empire) which makes them Semites, or descendants of Javan which makes them similar to the Greeks. I'd go with the latter considering Troy is an early Greek colony.

In the Iliad its quite clear that they are the same.

So, Germans?

Not at all

Where'd you take that from?

Crackers stop wewuzzing about our ancestors

I think Heracles was originally a Semitic deity. Which would make sense as far as Herodotus goes, with the broader Anatolian population being somewhat genetically closer to proto-Semites (by the neolithic farmer expansion) than to proto-Hellenes.

>with the broader Anatolian population being somewhat genetically closer to proto-Semites

Not really

These retarded images don't mean anything, they're just autism

>i'm too retarded to understand genetics
ftfy

Trojans are ancient Baltic people's that fled to the territory of modern day Latvia, after the war, and founded Trikāta.

Finally someone who tells the truth.
The whole of greece was needed to take down one turkic city state.

>nigger lacks the capacity to argue
>immediately responds with threat of violence
You "people" belong in a zoo.

Yup