/fraud/

Can taking test change/affect your face structure if you've been semi low test and high estrogen all your life? What if you're still going through puberty?

I was able to grow facial hair after my first cycle and my jaw was a bit more angular.

I have no idea how to get roids though, and living in Sweden makes it even more difficult. SARMS are at the very least legal.

there are people who roid all the time in sweden, how do you think they get a hold of the gear?

Mk 677?

Probably some underground sources, which I don't have.

HUSH be quiet. I like skate BOARD. the DOT is on the wall. BIZ is terrible.

how long before being on

Paging Cap the memelord

How do I blast and cruise if I have to travel by plane for 1-2 weeks.
Smuggling steroids through security is not something I want on my criminal record.

u/d esters, frontloading, shipping gear to your destination if it's a domestic flight... smuggling isn't particularly hard but I understand not wanting to do it

for obviously

Scam forum from everything I've heard.

Ive considered mailing, but its sadly not an option.

Would there be any really bad effects from skipping and not taking any test pins for 1-2 weeks?

Try to get a written script from a TRT doctor and just carry that with you.

nah

when you PCT you stop pinning for 2 weeks before even starting taking the PCT meds so the exogenous test can fully leave your body (assuming enanthate ester). I've gone 4 weeks without pinning before hopping back on and I didn't even notice it. rapid hormonal fluctuations may definitely cause sides however so it's not like nothing's gonna happen with a 100% certainty

Ive just started lifting and got some questions about riods.

Theyre ban in my country, some online sites like crazybulk say they have legal alternatives, how true is this?

If i find someone selling legit riods, how much should i expect to pay monthly?

Living in New Zealand

Not from my experience. Buy from green shops with good feedback and you should have a close to zero chance of getting scammed.

All the legal alternatives are bullshit.

>when the adex kicks in and you start pissing like a racehorse

Well you know it was necessary than.. Why didn't you start sooner if you were holding onto that much water already?

You're not done growing till 21, just wait.

finally got TRT and hgh rx from mexican doctor. no more faggot reddit sources to deal with, i am finally free. norditropin pens and whatever testosterone the pharmacy has, i can get up to 10 days. its gonna cost me about 10k per year lol

*can get up to 6iu per day and 200mg every 10 days

Why doesn't your insurance cover it if you get it prescribed? 10k is still a lot honestly even when its pharma grade.

because im from socialist shitstan called canada

i flew to puerto vallarta to visit a clinic there. its basically for rich people. im not rich but 10k a year is worth it to never have to send money to some basement faggot brewer or some sketchy lithuianian hgh site. every 3 months they mail me my updated prescription from usa. they apparently just bring it over the border from mexico to send to me.

they also had mexican pharma gh that was cheaper but i just wanted the international reputable pharma brand, plus i learned norditropin are the most shelf stable.

I was gonna shit on you until I learned you were from Canada. Jesus I feel bad for the people up north, y'all are kinda fucked when it comes to good sources.

Got an Anavar experience to report.

I'm 6 weeks into a 24 week Test E 200mg/Equipoise 400mg E3D cycle and I planned to use 80mg ED of Anavar from Week 1-6. Cool. Cycle starts, and around day 5 I am tired as FUCK. Anavar lethargy is fucking REAL and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I've done 2 cycles prior to this (test e + dbol for the first, test e and deca for the 2nd. both awesome) and holy fuck, I know it's the anavar. I lowered the dose to 60mg and somehow made it to week 4 with absolutely no improvement with this fucking insidious lethargic feeling. I'm an idiot for staying on it that long - I felt fucking awful. I went off it completely and a couple days later I felt completely normal again. Like flipping a switch. It was definitely the anavar.

I'll probably never try Anavar again. Brand is Teragon, and I love all of their other shit, so I think it's just my response to Anavar that sucks. Imagine feeling like you only got 2-4 hours sleep a night - that's 60/80mg of Anavar for you in a nutshell. It's funny - I wanted to try Anavar because it's low on the sides, yet the one that wasn't androgenically-related fucked me the hardest.

Beware.

Lol

You take about 40x the dose anavar was designed for because it was reccomended online and you are surprised? I always got results off as little as 15-20mg a day. You were taking over a quarter gram per week. Your lipids are fucked.

Btw anavar is a dht derived steroid. So you calling it a non androgen first of all is retarded and second incorrect. This is what happens when you learn about steroids from reddit. I literally take 20mg pre workout and within 3 days i get pumps and my skin starts to get redder from the blood

For the guys on gear. Do you tell your doctor your on the juice so he can monitor important bloodwork and shit, Or do you find a gear friendly doctor?

I did plenty of reading prior to choosing that dose. Many reported nothing adverse at that dosage, so your comment confuses me a bit. I know 5-10mg is common for women - would a 220lb man really see any benefit from Anavar at 20mg a day?

I didn't call it a non-androgen, jesus fuck man. Read my post. I said I wanted to try it because as far as orals go, it's one of the best for androgen-related sides. I didn't say it wasn't non-androgenic, you stupid fuck.

Not a 160lb manlet like you either, I expect. That or you're literally a woman.

Gear-friendly doctors are very rare. It seems like they generally consider it an unhealthy drug habit.

I told my doctor, because I started self-administered TRT and wanted help sifting through all of the information about long-term fertility concerns, and it was a mess. He lectured me on how it was unhealthy and I shouldn't do it and how it'll mess up my blood work and yadda yadda yadda.... Didn't even address my questions. Not to mention he hand-waved my description of my symptoms and how much better I feel now.

And now I have to deal with him harassing me about coming off every time I interact with him or his staff. Fucking annoying.

Just do blood work privately, and don't tell your doctor. I really wish that wasn't the best advice I could give. I wish I could say, "it's an important part of your health and should be mentioned," but they just don't understand or care.

I just went into a clinic and said I need bloodwork, I do steroids. He gave me the obligatory talk as is his duty of care and ever since he just checks my bp and heartbeat. Australia btw.
To find a doctor to monitor your health won't be a problem, to find a "gear friendly doctor" idk I think you have to know the right people and have a good wad of cash.

just find a urologist and say you feel like you're low T and/or your balls hurt. They'll do a blood test for everything you need for roiding and give you a prostate massage.

my face changed a fair bit after i started TRT.

i've been thinking of posting a face pic but then i snap out of it and realize this is /fraud/

So my friend has 'been the gym a few times' before and at 5'7 with 57kg of mass behind him that he's ready to hop on the gear..

He has no knowledge of nutrition and is 18. From what he's informing me it's going to be 4 weeks of dbol with nolva on hand and clomid pct..

He's ignorant as fuck and isn't going to be convinced otherwise, I'm just curious how much is he going to fuck his body up?

>mass behind him that he's ready to hop on the gear.
mass behind him that he thinks he's ready to hop on the gear.

Your friend should start eating and working out first lmao.

he will have a pretty shit 8 weeks and zero gains.

chance on complete fuck up of testosterone levels are hit or miss.

I mean...he'll recover but fuck that is stupid

>let's take an anabolic that suppresses testosterone

He probably won't get any permanent damage. He will just end up feeling like shit and losing all his water gains.

Listen here buddy, you NEVER tell your primary care physician that you are on gear. Insurance companies are looking for every excuse to not pay for your shit and recreational drug use is a hell of a valid reason to not pay. Furthermore, it's a valid reason to just kick you off from coverage entirely and tell you to go fuck yourself. Outside of a legitimate TRT prescription from a legitimate doctor in a legitimate clinic (in most cases these are all private and paid for with cash), there are very few scenarios where a doctor would be ok having you under their care. Ignoring the liability side, doctors can't just Willy Nilly order tests and prescribe drugs without reason. Your insurance isn't going to cover it, they'll get pissed at the doctor, and everyone looks bad.

There are some isolated cases I have seen where someone who has fucked up their bodies hormonal milieu from roids has successfully seeked the help of a PCP, but that is a bit different.

Tl;dr: do your own blood work or find a doctor from an anti-aging clinic retarded enough to supervise a healthy 20 something year old administering themselves illegal drugs

Are you talking about US insurance or EU insurance.

I can't tell. I honestly have no high estrogen side effects and I look like shit constantly so I can't tell whether or not I'm bloated. I just pop one every few days to stay safe and so far it's been good

US...I don't know how that shit hole EU works. It wouldn't surprise me if you all pay for the healthcare of retards that don't make the effort to use roids correctly

you can't be kicked off of universal public health insurance, that's the entire fucking point

>NEVER tell your primary care physician that you are on gear.

Ever heard of "medical confidentiality"?

There is a kiwi that juices with great prices. Even got his orals into Aus no problem.

ive heard conflicting shit about how insurance will not pay off shit in accidents because "muh roid rage" or "muh drug addict" and since im on legitimate TRT i don't know how it would work out in that case.

That isn't how anything works. You have a medical profile which is disclosed to insurance companies prior to them providing you coverage...this is why you get blood tested prior to being put on a new plan. They want to see who they are insuring and how to rate them accordingly. If the doctor makes note of your AAS use in the file or if they see your prior prescriptions or any shit like that, it is going to be a massive red flag.

You doctor cannot give your insurer a medical reason to kick you off your plan, ever heard of doctor patient confidentiality laws?

>doctors can't just Willy Nilly order tests and prescribe drugs without reason
WTF? Yes they can...who do you think orders tests and prescribe drugs?

Gotta get yourself off that there obamacare and get a real healthcare policy, cuz sounds like you are getting shafted.

Literally all he needs for gains on gear is not to have a shit diet.

Go try and ask your doctor for a blood test for a blood test to check your testosterone or estrogen. If you're a healthy young male, they are going to tell you to go fuck yourself (or if you had my doctor who was nice enough to shoehorn undiagnosed hypertension as the reason) because it's not clinically significant. Anyways, I'm not going to argue about this anymore. I work in health insurance and see this shit constantly. It's a bad idea. Best case scenario the doctor tells you to get out of their office. Worst case, you lose coverage entirely.

Anyone got any interesting steroid horror stories?

>I work in health insurance and see this shit constantly.
Nice dude, I make $100,000 a year working at Wendy's as a fry cook. I also have a 9-inch cock.

go look at /r/steroids progress pics. hilarious af

Is it because of their weird fascination about posting pictures of their dicks when they post progress?

no its because dyels go on big boy blasts with shit diets and shit training and end up still dyel.

its fun

Will I irrucovuly fuck up my body cruising on 300mg test for life?

whats the point in basically wasting money on AI and a baby blast for the rest of your life

Lol no.

Insurance will fuck you.
Also you get lumped in with drug abuse group if you need an organ, which means every person on earth other than a 100 year old man obese man on his death bed gets preference before you.

Nice call out damn just @ me next time ho

impyling its not you, cock gobler

youre a fucking retard

no, and 300mg a week is great. I started getting bacne all over like fucking crazy though. I think I need to give blood.

Sup breh's fat fuck here, buddy got me a bottle of Anavar for my bday the other week, I lift 6x a week but still fat. Should I take this shit or just keep it for the future?

It won't make you lose fat if you are not in a calorie deficit, it'll preserve strength and muscle on a calorie deficit

>I lift 6x a week
That's great, try eating about a thousand calories less and doing cardio 6x a week.

>implying he has any muscle under the fat

Production of both shbg and thyroglubulin is most impacted by estrogen. Higher test levels implies higher estrogen via aromatase. At any rate it's of no concern.

One week is no issue at all. Two weeks will be kinda shitty but doable. I've personally gone for 10 days, just pinned double before I left and then felt fine despite my levels falling through the trip.

how do I go about lowering by LDL? cardio? diet?

yes

Guys, I am injecting 125mg of test per week and I've noticed this pattern in my mood.

>Day 1: Normal Mood
>Day 2: Depressed/Moody/Irritable
>Day 3: Depressed/Moody/Harder to focus and worse memory
>Day 4: Normal mood, better cognition
>Day 5: Good mood, pretty good
>Day 6 Euphoric, almost manic, best I've ever been in all regards
>Day 7: Euphoric, almost manic, best I've ever been in all regards
After two days of injecting, my blood levels show 1143ng/dL of total testosterone, and my Estrogen at 25ng/dL. (331pmol/l range: 99-192).
I figure the depression must obviously be cause by the estrogen spike, but I have no luck controlling for it with Letrozol. I seem to either take so little I get no discernible effects, or so much that I continue to be depressed + joint pain. What could I do about this? Should I buy a different Aromatase Inhibitor?

You have to sign away your privacy to get insurance dumbass. I wish children would stop posting. How the fuck is insurance going to pay for your care if you won't let them see what care you are getting?

Letros pretty harsh and excessive for 125mg p/w.
What are you dosing it at? Did you wait to get bloods before you started using it?
Try Adex @ .25mg EOD either way

>What are you dosing it at?

1/8 for no effects of a 2.5mg pill
around 4/8 for painful joints 2.5 pill

>Did you wait to get bloods before you started using it?

No, bloods only show Test-E without anything else.

>Try Adex @ .25mg EOD either way

Aight, I'll see if I can find a source. Those estrogen spikes succ.

lol 205lb @ 5'10

also even though it's 125mg split it between to pins p/w. You may need to cut it with more oil to make the measuring easier but more stable levels will do you some good.

MasT, when you do your like cyclic keto cut diet do you increase the frequency of the high carb days as you get leaner or the opposite?

Makes sense.

I've been meaning to try sub-cutaneous injections, so I might give injecting every 3-4 days a try.

I'm going to try bulking again.

Enanthate esters have a half life of around 3-4 days so you should be injecting at least twice a week for relatvely stable levels. I'd be willing to bet that if you got some 1mL slin pins and started pinning EOD most of your problems would go away. Also there's no way in hell you need letro for 125mg of test pw. You may not even need an AI period.

How much would I be injecting EOD. Around 40mg? I've never tried this, but I am definitely going to give it a try.

You should try bulking naturally.

Yeah, somewhere in the 30-50mg range. Ideally you want to find a spot where you don't need any AI.

ty for returning more terrifying than ever.
What's the point of that?

Awesome, definitely giving it a try. Thanks for the idea, user.

ahaha I wouldn't say terrifying but ty duder. I haven't even been paying attention to diet just crazy 2x a day lifting.
That happened when I was natty. I got pretty heavy.

fuck I wish I had time for that. I've moved about a month ago and like doubled my commute. Means cardio, rehab and lifting in one session and it's awful