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How is this not the ideal male form?

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This is better

I like this one as well.

Most penises are "small" when not erect.

Were the ancients actually this fucking hench? I mean even old philosophers, guys who are know for their brain not their brawn, are jacked with exceptional genetics if the sculptures are to be believed.

i think maybe there was a lot more testosterone back then? and people were shorter?

Everyone was required to serve in the military in ancient greece. Also you generally had to do physical labor on the daily and body image was very important to them.

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There was certainly less to decrease their test levels.

I wish I could go back in time and see how they worked out.

>I wish I could go back in time and see how they worked out.
Sand bags ?

Of course not. You're doing the equivalent of believe that all 21 century men looked like superman because of marvel drawings

Bis and tris are too small

Well physical excercise and most important war was a way bigger part of everyday life than it is today.

Even Plato for example was a famous wrestler, Socrates a PE-Teacher (sort-of)
Some of the poets wrote their great work in between the week long marches and physically demanding battles.

It hasn't much to do with genetics. That lifestyle gets you more or less ripped, but not everyday becomes hercules of course.

Fucking wrong. They knew what the male body looked like with low body fat because of their athletes and diets. They did have gymnasiums where their athletes would train. but when sculpting they exaggerated the features for an "ideal" look to honor their Gods. Just look at their buildings and you realize that modesty was not the style back then. They went all out and believed the bihher the better. Best case scenario you have a small population running around with swimmers' bodies.

Yes. Think about how far men's test has dropped in 50 or so years. Now think about how far it dropped between Ancient Sparta and now.

He has anterior pelvic tilt.

whats wrong with this? plebs

Lol. No. It's stylized art. Anyone who doesn't realize this is retarded

>liking trap tits on men
>calling someone pleb

oh im sorry how do u like your men you obvious faggot LMAO

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says the guy with jeff seid photos on his hard drive

Lol at GREEKcels making up reasons for their tiny penises

no i only have pics of gandy and zyzz

The army of aryan supersoldiers do exist. They're called CHADS

how do you about the fact that if this guy was seen in ancient greece he would be mistaken for a slav or german slave thanks to his brutish tit and trap development

that's pretty small for a flaccid penis even. But it is traditional for statues like that to have small penises, the greeks started it because people would break the dicks off statues and steal them as trophies, because women they didn't want women to be distracted by the dick/hump the statue, and because having a large flaccid penis was considered a barbarian trait, while a small flaccid penis was more civilized.

>Superman
>Marvel

Pick one

Nope. Not getting me with that one

Subtle trolling.

I like it.

literally my body after summer break from lifting
tfw made it

Yes, and what the fuck are you talking about these statues would be told to go back to Auschwitz in a CB thread.

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Got any pics?

Doing manual labor vs sitting on your ass 24/7 like most people today will make a difference.

not like the greeks were the founders of the olympics or anything right? Not like they devoted a great deal to physical activities and sculpting their bodies.

fucking americans and history lmao

I know this is fucking around but I am so fucking rustled at the off chance that someone might actually believe that a majority of Greek citizens looked like the damn Hercules in Florence because some of them had manual labor jobs.

bi and tri don't do anything for me. OP pic looks perfect

you germanics want to be ROMAN AND GREEKS AND SHIT

no they def had more test

I want to lick her armpits

i was in florence last week. what are the odds

is that a teenage Bradley Martyn?
maybe a touch more on the mid/anterior delts
breddy gud
you fuckin retard these are statues of /fitizens/ from the Renaissance, not ancient Greece
10/10 aesthetic
original supes was modeled on existing bodybuilders and absolutely achievable. 90s Supermong was modeled on jack shit
They were much like modern day brazilians, even the poorest were obsessed with body cultureso much bullshit in one post
basically every modern athlete, even the amateurs, are the pinnacle of greek body image. it is an accepted and very achievable norm

Why do statues always have insane abs and obliques but comparatively small chest and arms?

small chest has been a fad since the 50s i think. Some bodybuidler convience everyone that having a big chest was the best thing ever.

When in reality its whatever and greek mode/roman mode is the best

*big chest

Of course they weren't you moron.

The lower strata of society never had enough food, no matter how much physical labor they were expected to do. The majority of people in the ancient world would have been malnurished af, especially in comparison to the amount of work they did. Their macros would have been shit too. Very little protein and tons of carbs from a very bread heavy diet. It was only recently that meat consumption has become as common as it has.

Just like today, the upper strata of society would have kept in shape or gotten fat based on their own private initiative. If they engaged in physical exercise they would have been fit, if they sat around drinking wine all day they would have gotten fat.

The big difference today is that most people are too fat. Back then most people would have been too skinny and underfed. Very rarely in history would the bulk any population have been both physically fit and wellfed.

LOL historylet detected.

You do know that there are ancient books describing the beauty of a rowers body since they had very developed shoulders. And you dont need that much protein to build muscle stop being a tard. They drank milk, ate meat, ate nuts, oils and fruits. The society's involvement of a military culture was also a main factor. Long marches carrying heavy equipment for hours is enough to build an aesthetic physique

Anterior pelvic tilt.

Disgusting.

Big chest is a meme. Big tits are a FEMININE trait

I'm not saying that no one was ripped.

I'm saying the average person was not, even if they were involved in physical labor, because their diet sucked and they didn't eat enough.

If everyone was super fit and athletic, why was life expectancy in the mid 30's at best (and thats ONLY if you consider people who live to 10, if you include everyone it's only 25ish)? Part of it was that when you're malnourished your immune system tanks.

But yeah, keep pretending that the super ripped and athletic dudes in the past were anything but the same kind of rare exception that they are today.

My mom's Jewish, so I am too technically. But I've never been religious or had any exposure to Judaism aside from occasional family get-togethers. And all I think whenever I see this shit is, "Damn, where is this world/millennia spanning Jewish conspiracy and how can I get a piece of that action?"

>dont need that much protein to build muscle stop being a tard.

>They drank milk, ate meat, ate nuts,
>They drank milk, ate meat, ate nuts,
>They drank milk, ate meat, ate nuts,
>They drank milk, ate meat, ate nuts,

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What this guy doesn't realize is that for most people those were a fairly rare "sometimes" thing. The vast majority of ancient populations sustained themselves on grains.

Its because Jews are exactly what the SJWs accuse whites of being: an inside club. The richest top tier Jews favor other rich top tier Jews over everyone else and work to give each other a hand up. Its no accident that the media, American legal system, and banking are dominated by Jews, any time a Jew gets into an institution he pulls in as many of his fellow Jews as possible in order to secure his position.

However this does not extend to all Jews, people like you and your family are of course valued by the rich Jews more than whites but not enough to merit any connections. And like in German and Russia, when rich Jews act like cunts, they'll pack their jewgolds and flee before getting gassed and stick the poorer kikes will the bill.

Very likely, their food was organic & didn't have bpa's.

Life expectancy was an average you fucking retard, people fought in wars, stillbirths and childbirth deaths lowered the average.

yet another fat fuck crying over shit genes by saying that fit bodies are a rarity

This

>16th century sculpture
>ancients

There is no flaw.

Penises are better of the two genitals, even art proves it. Penises are literally beautiful, aesthetic, and feel good. In art, penises are drawn in various ways, they are only disgusting when intentionally drawn disgusting. Vaginas are always disgusting, rarely do you see good pussy, most of the time it looks like a BLT sandwich. Maybe 1/100 pussy looks good. Most times when people draw penises from memory (not counting middle school students' primitive crap), they draw them good. It takes real bad skills to draw a shitty penis. I dare you to find a handful of people that can draw a vagina from memory and make it good. Not some single line or vague shape consisting of a few lines where you have to put your imagination to it. Yet penises can be drawn in all sorts of ways and remain beautiful. Nature and art agrees that penises are superior and people subconciously prove it every time they draw them. Yet people still love vaginas and shriek at penises but when you ask about taste and smell it's the other way around. So weird, and let's not forget which of the two genitals has deformations and pungent smells more frequently than the other, and which of the two genitals has a notorious reputation for fish scent. Oh yeah, it's the vagina. Smelly, filthy, unappealing, rancid tasting. I've only seen good pussy on models and pornstars and teen girls that give a shit about their appearance and genitalia.

>hHAHAH I HAVE A 10 INCH DICK LIKE A HORSE
appearing like a wild animal is not a good thing -- the civilized world is laughing at you and your monster cock worship (which is gay as fuck too)

>le civilized donglet

If your dong looks like that statue, it's small 'cause that dick was made small on purpose. Also, no one thinks that anymore, faggot. Everyone knows a big dick is an absolute positive.

tl;dr cry more, dicklet

>5'4

For some reason when I see someone clearly trolling, I always think of them as Brian from family guy when he shows the video of two girls one cup to srewie

>tfw your penis is this small 90% of the time
>tfw when it grows to supposably above average length
>tfw 6'3 so it looks even smaller
>tfw during squats it crawls into my body
>tfw tfw

lel thinking the average person only lived till 30s because of diet. Sorry sweetie, but humans are actually dying younger these days because of our shit diet and fucked up hormones. So many people are dying in their 30s-50s. This is probably one of the worse states of health the human population has ever endured (that is not related to mass disease). People are dying young because they can't control themselves. Sick in the mind and body.

youtu.be/B6aDJefLg9I?t=1m33s

Skip to 1:33. That's normal hormone levels.

Because this is the ideal male form

Going for that body, a.k.a ideal, perfect and natural male proportion. Already have the height (5'8), the weight (69 kg ~150lbs), just need to cut down a bit.

Roidgut

yep, meat was a luxury. there is a reason for the "sacrificial lamb". if lamb was eaten everyday, what meaning would there be in sacrificing one?

>no homo

They weren't jacked.

I always get them mixed up but supposedly the Greeks made their sculptures in a more idealized image, while the Romans made their sculptures using a more realistic approach.

Grains only featured in human diets after around 9000BC. For more than 90% of our evolutionary past our digestive systems did not evolve to digest grains.

Meat was a luxury in areas where meat was scarce. Meat was an essential daily requirement in plenty of other areas. It's worth noting that grains introduced new health problems that weren't seen in hunter gatherer societies.

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>"Damn, where is this world/millennia spanning Jewish conspiracy and how can I get a piece of that action?"

>become orthodox jew
>study economics/law at harvard
>marry daughter of jewish banker

it's less a millennia spanning conspiracy and more a millennia spanning destructive state of mind propagated by the jewish people and culture

No no no look up pervitin. And the aircraft of the Luftwaffe far outclassed the poles and Russians, and the French! This is ludicrous

good luck getting that big naturally.

He would still get more pussy than you.1

Growers unite.

Yeee

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All that matters is that you smash right. Plenty of dudes with huge dicks don't know dick about making girls cum